Serinus is now policing the Lemmy.world announcement about defederating with Dbzer0
Edit: Serinus has been made a de-facto admin of Lemmy.world. He has access to admin level tools via a Discord bot, is banning users from the instance using this bot, and is admitting as much. He is also claiming that instance defederation is acceptable under a certain amount of users. This is the admin team of Lemmy.world. Defederation must happen.
I made a number of comments in the post. @[email protected] is now policing how many you are allowed to have.
Here is the Announcement thread in general, in case you are unaware.
Serinus also claims 'Misinformation' for these comments
Ding ding ding. Hexbear and other instances get consideration and talked about behind the scenes. Anarchist.nexus was defederated by MrKaplan privately without any consideration at all from other admins. Kaplan even went out of their way to contact admins of other instances to attempt to get them to defederate from anarchist.nexus as well. When pressed about the popularity of anarchist.nexus, Kaplan then said "I don't know how you define relatively large, on fedidb they're listed as having 71 monthly active users" which led to someone else saying "That's top 10 for Piefed servers, according to fedidb. It would be top 40 for lemmy. We aren't swimming in the pacific here on the Fediverse. This is a small pond to begin with." A small pond that MrKaplan desperately wants to be the only big fish in. # Lemmy.world is using their position to bully smaller communities.
This is not, in fact, misinformation. I listed the screenshots in another comment directly proving this as correct. Here is that screenshot.
Correct. Also, this is quite important, but MrKaplan didn't talk to anyone else about this either. There was an instant and knee jerk response by the admins for this but they took literal weeks to do absolutely nothing about Jordan while saying they were looking into it for weeks. They, quite clearly, have made priorities.
Also not misinformation. Here is the screenshot from Kaplan admitting they never messaged anyone.
Anything to say, Serinus?
Edit: Of course he doesn't. He just banned me for 'sealioning and harassment' for this YPTB post.
3 years ago: "Oh neat, this instance seems to fit well for me "
Lately: Chuckles "I'm in danger!"
Yeah, I highly recommend starting your switch to another instance immediately. There is a discussion happening behind the scenes for a number of other major instances to defederate from lemmy.world if LW does indeed go through with the defederation from dbzer0 because, at that point, Kaplan will have proven a few things.
That Kaplan/LW admins value individual users like themselves over the entirety of an instances users
That Kaplan/LW admins are not willing to engage in the same type of reporting behavior that they ask others to do
That Kaplan/LW admins will be taking nuclear options in order to bully smaller instances into bowing to what they want you to do
That Kaplan/LW admins will be policing what you think as they have literally zero evidence that there is any support for Luminous' behavior and, in fact, has been pushback. It's so ridiculous that Jordan Lund said this in their moderator chat for Lemmy.world. A chat that I just sit in and quietly drink my tea watching them lie boldfaced.
"major instances"
lol
The way federation is protected from this shit happening is by people spreading out. Don't join a popular instance. You can still interact with them without being a member of their instance. If one instance gets power, like Lemmy.world, you just end up in another situation like Reddit, where they can control the platform. You should definitely leave, if you aren't already planning to. Find a small instance that does what you want.
Tbh it is a quick a painless process to jump from .world to another instance. I only done this the other day from .world and boy howdy the amount of content that I can see. The fediverse feels new again.
I did exactly that when lemmy.world leaked my user registration e-mail address to Israel (I! Kid! You! Not!) as I was loudly anti-Genocide and critical of Zionism and I started receiving invitations to an online "learn about Israel" event in it.
It was a very easy transition.
this deserves its own post wtf
There's not really much I can prove, especially if I don't want to reveal much about my identity.
I don't know who misused one of my registration email addresses, but .world is high on the list as it started just after they kicked a community I moderated of their instance because it annoyed their vegan community, and I used a .world login back then
They subscribed me to about 30 dating sites. Most dating sites don't validate email addresses.
The welcome mat is ready for you on DB0
do they side with the tankie instances? it seems like they agree on alot of things besides who they support.
PTB, I always knew that Serinus was biased, stuck up and irrational.
I think all of LW's staff are in some way or they wouldn't be there.
PTB. Fuck Zionists
except all the people already living there who have been and are being exterminated in order to make the ethnostate a reality
actual nazi response, if I had my way I would turn you into fertilizer too
You can report them on their instance, so @[email protected] takes hardline enforcement of science denialists.
@[email protected] Do you really want someone like this on your instance? Someone who denies the genocide of a people then says those people would “make good fertilizer”?
Not really, no
So you are going to ban him?
They are banned
You are an idiot, a bot, or paid opposition. Bonus if you're all 3
My bet is on groyper. They are particularly prone to doing hasbara in as poor a way as possible because they're anti semitic. And since it stokes fights with leftists, and they're actual nazis: it's two bird with one stone to them.
I'm willing to bet it's an alt of someone at Lemmy.world who doesn't want to get their main account banned.
4 day old account -> 'signs point to yes'
Serinus is a Zionist moron who thinks anyone who doesn't obey their sugar daddy power admin must be deleted. PTB for sure.
Who know they the person who supported flat world being discussed in equal measures as reality itself was a bad guy?
And now they're banning people for just pointing out they're bullying others and other instances lol
Absolutely perfectly stereotypical 'reddit mod' behavior.
Define zionist?
Someone who think jews can build a state wherever they want in any method possible , deny the way israel was illigetimatly created, reject a one state solution categorically and blame the lack of a palestinian state partially or fully on Palestinians
They can be there, as they can be anywhere. The issue is an ethnostate.
There is nothing wrong with having people in any land. The issue is making it only for those people.
This is the same argument as Apartied South Africa. "Well what's the issue with them? They live there, why not continue to let them live there?"
I was really careful with my words. You decided to interpret it as if I think not a single Jew has a connection and right to the land, when my point was about a group's belief in an eternal right to it.
They can stay in Israel and get the hell out of the West Bank and East Jerusalem. The fact is that creating a state by ethnic cleansing is illegitimate, like the Zionists did.
Palestinians are descendants of the Canaanites and were there before the Zionists, but ancestry doesn't matter to me; the main issue is that Palestinians were ethnically cleansed by recent European immigrants in '48.
My support of a one-state solution is because of decades of colony building. A two-state solution would mean the mass transfer of people from both sides and the issue of connecting both Gaza and the West Bank, since Israel separates them physically.
Amazing how they are lumping in all Jews in with Israel and say if you hate one nation you hate all the people.
But if we say "Hey racism is bad no matter who does it" they call us the racists.
Supports the Zionist philosophy, simple. Sorry that's too much for you.
PTB for sure. This whole situation is one big shit show. I really hope people don't let them get away with this just because they're a big instance. I really hope some kind of defederation or action happens as a result.
As tired as I am of the drama, this is classic PTB! It's the perfect example of it!
That announcement thread simultaneously has a user freely and actively running hasbara about the Nakba.
The scum in question [email protected]
ok the scum [email protected] and the scum science4life @mander.xyz
You see, Zionist talking points of how Arabs are evil is fine, saying that's wrong is what gets you banned.
Like how countries are currently putting sanctions on Iran for defending itself from another illegal occupation/war.
LW doesn't see that as an issue though. It's what they want on the platform
Pointing this out and how he's trying to deflect away from previous terrible decisions got me banned too. Guess I just needed to be a flat earther to have my comments kept
https://lemmy.world/modlog/5?page=1&actionType=All&modId=108149
Edit, apparently people being upset are just doing an agenda. And it's okay for world to do it since it's against a small instance....
https://lemmy.world/comment/23371264
If those assholes could go back Reddit I'd be so happy
Pretty sure they think they're building the next reddit and once they get rid of the unmentionables it'll finally take off
They will add ads eventually to be "financially viable" undoing one of the main positives of lemmy
Well, they can.
Then problem is they aren't.
Major PTB from those in charge at LW. I left lemmy.world a long time ago because of behavior like this back when they were having a feud over the existence of piracy communities. I had a gut feeling they would sooner or later start mass banning people or defederate due to stupid reasons. And it seems I was right about that even if I wasn't right on the specifics of what. Honestly I want no part in this. It's why I don't really touch lemmy.world at all anymore.
I got a ridiculous response about how the "offending" instance only had 165 users so no problem.
What a fucking shit bird and I'm fucking pissed I just donated to the server on the last ask.
I've moved servers, I don't need to expanding the only apparent measurement of the worth of an instance. Been on .world for 3 years, but they can go piss up a rope if that's how they judge the fediverse and want to use admins like these two.
Amazing how they keep bleeding mods because of their actions and then think anyone who disagrees with them is actually the real issue.
I'm sure in a few days MrKaplan will say you've been brainwashed by db0 or Tankies or whatever he needs to excuse his actions.
Yeah that was Serinus. The fact that comment has been left up and he hasn't been criticisized publicly for it is demonstration of how LW feels. Because its a small instance, it doesn't matter. LW is just bullying instances smaller than them to control the field. The majority of the admin team of LW needs to be completely replaced or defederation is the only acceptable option now. If they're going to threaten and bully, then everyone else needs to cut them off at the knees first to stop them from being able to do so.
"It's only 165 users"
And that's still 165 users that Lemmy.world was more than happy to defederate with to go after someone who isn't even an admin anymore. Not only that, but going after them for what Kaplan admitted was a lack of evidence. Just a feeling.
Letting a single admin unilaterally decide to defederate another instance because someone hurt their fee-fees and then never tried to contact the admin team itself tells you what's going on over there. Then this other twatwaffle defends them with that weaksauce explanation. Of course, they'll still be there going forward.
As I said in a followup comment, now I'm embarrassed I donated a few times in the 3 years I was there. I want my money back.
@[email protected] might be interested in knowing that, considering all his last comments are about donations.
He doesn't care. It's not money from Zionists, it's not worth it to him.
Funny thing is that I've talked to Ruud a bunch in the past and may have disagreed with him but respected him. But the dragging of the feet on Jordan and now this total lack of commenting on what is blatantly an abuse of power of their only active admin (outside of Kersploosh) is ridiculous.
Enjoy dbzer0, the governance threads are quite unique, in a good way
Feel free to consider moving your instances off LW too to be able to keep moderating them
Ahoy, welcome to the flotilla!
Where do I go to get in on the blockade?
@unruffled:anarchist.nexus
I don’t get it. If I’m on lw, and it is de federated from dbzero, how am I seeing this post which is on dbzero server.
Because they haven't. They're threatening to. I'd recommend clicking on that link to the announcement post and checking out the comments.
The tl;dr is that they had defederated from anarchist.nexus (the piefed version of dbzer0) and was threatening to defederate from dbzer0 despite never actually talking with anyone from either instance before beginning the defederation proceedings. After a day, Kaplan made the announcement post which has been getting overwhelmingly negative reactions to the decision on behalf of LW Admins. This led to Kaplan reversing the defederation for anarchist.nexus but, as the announcement post states, is still considering defederating from dbzer0 and if they do so will also defederate from anarchist.nexus again. They have literally no reason for this defederation at this stage.
Also, just FYI, defederation has some unintuitive behavior. IIRC, you will not receive content from the defederated instance but if your instance-mates post there, you will see that content, since it's actually from your own instance. Something like that, anyway.
And they were instancemates!
The aforementioned defederation decision is still pending.
Takes a momemt. Might be announced in chat before typed in terminal. Isnt final yet. I still say we defederate them first. I think i already have all their subs blocked.
Me neither
Oh yeah, this is the good shit! I gobbled a bowl of oatmeal reading through the whole thing.
I am satisfied.
Thank you for the meal! 👍
I made raviolli pasta.
Bella Ciao.
Jesus, I'm moving instances.
Right? I was strongly debating going to dbzer0 but their mods/admins lost my trust when they banned my other account for 'trolling and genocide apologia,' just because I 'no u'-ed a post using zionist as an insult against a whole instance. I bet you can guess what the ops instance is.
I've started on piefed social, but am considering slrpnk.net
LW and sh.itjust.works is now shadow banning Lemmy.org and other instances.
You can see this by viewing my history and looking for a LW comment. Then go to LW directly and you can’t see it.
I'm sure the continued splintering of this little corner of the leftist internet is a good thing we should all cheer
Better than letting Zionists run the place.
I'm sorry what?
You think lemmy.world is... leftist?
Nah. They're extremely hardcore 'Corporate Democrat', ie, moderate conservatives.
I think there's more leftists who landed on .world than certain other literal fascist state supporting instances.
... Yes, and then they leave and join another instance, after dealing with the .world mod team for a long enough time.
There are plenty of instances that are explicitly leftist... I'm genuienly not aware of any explicity fascist instances...? Maybe I missed one?
Lemmy seriously need full community portability, to make easier for cummity owner to move the content to another instance
I agree that this would be a very useful thing, but as far as I understand the technical back end of lemmy... which is admittedly not well ... it would basically either be impossible, or would require basically a hardfork.
Lemmy is fundamentally designed for the instance to be the most important thing, to try and treat users as primary, to be able to enable a 'migration'... it'd be a very significant rework and a whole lot of people more familiar with the actual code would probably have very strong opinions about it.
EDIT: Derp, you said comm, not user.
I... think you still run into pretty much the same problems, or kinds of problems, either way.
Yeah, I’ve just been too lazy to switch to one of my alts.
.World user here. Leftist, but not Hexbear leftist.