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Texas can require public schools to display the Ten Commandments in classrooms, US appeals court rules

Texas can require the Ten Commandments to be displayed in public school classrooms, a U.S. appeals court ruled Tuesday in a victory for conservatives who have long sought to incorporate more religion into schools.

The ruling sets up a potential clash at the U.S. Supreme Court over the issue in the future. Arkansas and Louisiana have passed similar laws, which have also been challenged in courts.

And Alabama Gov. Kay Ivey signed a similar law earlier this moth.

Texas can require public schools to display the Ten Commandments in classrooms, US appeals court ruleshttps://www.cnn.com/2026/04/21/us/texas-ten-commandments-schoolsOpen linkView original on lemmy.world
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piefed.social

Notably, the law does NOT say that you cannot display the Five Yamas, the Four Noble Truths, the Ten Precepts of Taoism, Five Pillars of Islam, etc., alongside them. That's what I'd be doing, were I a teacher.

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These are the ones I'd want to post. But, honestly, I'm scared. In any other state, or in the private sector, I'm woefully unqualified, and can't afford to lose my job. Most likely, I'd eventually be vindicated in the courts, but I'd be fired and destitute well before that.

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artyomreply
piefed.social

Might be going a bit too far. The point is educate kids that Christianity is not the only religion. Putting that up might delegitimize the argument.

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erzdtreply
piefed.social

Did you read them? They seem less problematic than the ten commandments to me.

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erzdtreply
piefed.social

If they would be written in a poster on a wall it would matter. At least to anyone who actually sees them.

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artyomreply
piefed.social

It wouldn't matter to the people that matter. The people creating this legislation in the first place.

You are too concerned with being right and not concerned enough about protecting children from indoctrination.

They can't denigrate text from Taoism and claim it's not suppression of religious freedom, but they can totally point at text from a meme religion as proof that your argument is not serious.

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The Satanic Temple is a non-religious civil rights organization, and this has been their primary tactic for years because it works. When you point out to John Q. Public that allowing the 10 Commandments into classrooms will also open the doors to the 7 Tenets of Satanism, it either causes a reversal of course or bulldozes a path for wider religious acceptance.

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artyomreply
piefed.social

I think you may have missed the part where I said what they say is not relevant. It was 90% of the message you just replied to.

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It's almost like you are afraid, it's weird.

I don't consider myself a Satanist, but their seven tenets are nearly impossible to argue against.

Here let me do you a favor and just paste them here for you:

I

One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason.

II

The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions.

III

One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone.

IV

The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one's own.

V

Beliefs should conform to one's best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one's beliefs.

VI

People are fallible. If one makes a mistake, one should do one's best to rectify it and resolve any harm that might have been caused.

VII

Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.

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artyomreply
piefed.social

Why? Really? It's a fake religion. Not like most fake religions but like even they don't even believe in it.

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foggyreply
lemmy.world

And make the 10 commandments really really small. Perhaps hand written by a student with bad handwriting. In Spanish. With yellow ink on beige paper.

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I'd go with like Klingon or something. I'm sure there are plenty of Spanish speakers in Texas. Probably a lot fewer who can read Klingon.

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The judges justification was that displaying the 100% religious material does not force students to read or affirm the religious content. So, I'm looking forward to the Satanic Temple's suit to allow them to display their own tenets now that school walls are an open forum for religious materials that are legally not pushing their religiousity on students. They're a hell of a lot better a set of tenets anyway.

The tenets: https://thesatanictemple.com/blogs/the-satanic-temple-tenets/there-are-seven-fundamental-tenets?srsltid=AfmBOorp3jTMgXS23ZsM-AJANSPyJFplv4WLlu4DgfJuuh4RNBOPVpoB

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Also, these are the people who think having openly gay people on tv is indoctrinating kids

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It technically is forcing them to read it. The way the human brain works, if you know how to read and you see writing, you typically physically can't stop yourself from reading it

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I like these better than the ten commandments. I especially like number 6

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lemmy.org

Someone light the beacon for The Satanic Temple.

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lemmy.world

The law specifies that this is ONLY for the Ten Commandments. Blatant disregard for separation aside, there's not much other faiths can do to balance the scales unless their document also happens to be called the Ten Commandments

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Corkyskogreply
sh.itjust.works

Seems like they should make a document called Ten Commandments then lol

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T00l_shedreply
lemmy.world

I get what youre saying but we both know they don't care about being hypocrites

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And the courts are hypocrites, see this ruling about blatant disregard for the 1st amendement

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lemmy.world

How in the fuck can any court find this shit constitutional without being biased as fuck and doing some goddamned fucking olympic level mental gymnastics?

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Capt. Wolfreply
lemmy.world

This is what happens in a captured system, the bad guys get to enforce their beliefs absolutely. Objectivity goes out the window.

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These justices should be removed immediately for demonstrating their inability to follow a law so basic a 3 year old would understand.

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There’s always one court in Texas that has their head up their own asses.

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lemmy.world

Maybe this will make children question the morality of right wing politicians more.

Why has Trump broken all 10 commandments, for instance.

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Why has Trump broken all 10 commandments, for instance.

trump treated it like a to-do list until he got all ten.

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feddit.nl

A daily morning pledge to a flag definitely turned me against the State as a propaganda bullshit machine.

...But I'm afraid most people just got brainwashed and thought I was weird for abstaining.

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danc4498reply
lemmy.world

Yeah, it truly is weird. I genuinely forgot about this until I was at my son’s school one day that early.

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That's the way I want to see it, 10 commandments with examples of how federal and local politicians have violated them.

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lemmy.world

It's been a busy week for the 5th Circuit, also affirming the Earth is flat, guns are people, and New Coke was actually quite tasty.

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SippyCupreply
lemmy.world

If guns are people, and we're allowed to own guns...

Slavery is legal again folks!

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Ithralreply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Bolded it for you. If convicted of a crime you too can be a slave.

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NotSteve_reply
lemmy.ca

Yeah, nah, laws banning slavery shouldn't have an asterisk and the US is pretty fucked up for that

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ALSO...As of 2022, several states, including Alabama, Tennessee, and Oregon, passed measures to update their state constitutions to remove language allowing slavery as a punishment for a crime, while Louisiana did not. 

Bur ya know who cares about progress

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So long as there are alternatives.

For instance, the Satanic Temple's 7 tenents are:

I One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason.

II The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions.

III One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone.

IV The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one's own.

V Beliefs should conform to one's best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one's beliefs.

VI People are fallible. If one makes a mistake, one should do one's best to rectify it and resolve any harm that might have been caused.

VII Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.

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yes, the judges ruling this way certainly aren't making carveouts for one religion in particular.

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This is a ruling from the 5th Circuit Court. From Wikipedia:

During his first administration, President Donald Trump appointed six judges to the court, with many observers thereafter regarding it as the most conservative court of appeals.[4][5][6] The Fifth Circuit's reversal rate at the US Supreme Court from the beginning of the 2020 term through the end of the 2022 term was 74%, making it the 7th most frequently reversed circuit court; the average rate of reversals was 68%.[7][8] Some members of the Supreme Court, including Chief Justice John Roberts, have indicated concern with how the Fifth Circuit approaches cases.[9][10][11] Several court observers have interpreted the court as being exceptionally conservative in its rulings.[12]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Court_of_Appeals_for_the_Fifth_Circuit#2020s

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This is the time for every teacher to just casually mention to NOT google George Carlin's take on "the ten commandments"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTb6YGciI2g

... Let's start with the first three: I AM THE LORD THY GOD THOU SHALT NOT HAVE STRANGE GODS BEFORE ME THOU SHALT NOT TAKE THE NAME OF THE LORD THY GOD IN VAIN THOU SHALT KEEP HOLY THE SABBATH Right off the bat the first three are pure bullshit. Sabbath day? Lord's name? strange gods? Spooky language! Designed to scare and control primitive people. In no way does superstitious nonsense like this apply to the lives of intelligent civilized humans in the 21st century. ...

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I honestly think it's delightful.

Just wait until those commandments are upon the walls of the US History classes and when the teachers get invariably, to the Civil War and teach - as Texas does - that the war was over states rights.. and they read the Article of Secession that Texas wrote, the students can call that bullshit out, using the 8th commandment against "bearing false witness". (no lying)

The issue is that the real Article of Secession that Texas wrote - not the whitewashed version they teach in their schools (that, BTW. mentions States rights ZERO times) - is hella nastier about black people, than they're comfortable to admit. (page 5, paragraph that starts: "We hold, as undeiniable truths..")

I think once that one hits the classrooma, a few of the more sharp kids are going to have a field day with it.

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I’d print it, but make it very tiny font and a small little square and place it on a cork board. It would suck if it got covered up by an anchor chart, but at least it’s displayed!

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I haven't read the ruling, but heard that they're allowing it to go forward because there's no penalty for refusing. Not sure about that. Need to read up on it. I have a lot of coworkers who will not be participating.

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Surely, that means if the politicians fighting for this break one of the commandments they will immediately resign, right?

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Put a picture of the President beside:

You shalt not kill

You shalt not commit adultery

You shalt not steal

You shalt not covet your neighbors child

You shalt not shart.

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lemmy.world

America, you wanted a Christian Nation. Wait until it happens. You'll be paying premium streaming prices for entertainment, and getting rewritten 1950s tripe.

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I'd love a Christian nation. We'd have no more homeless or starving people along with universal health care.

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I'm okay with the ten commandments being displayed.......provided the rules of other religions are displayed right next to them

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