Spyke
sh.itjust.works

Oh for fucks sake, they made Zelda a girl. Tired of this gender swapping woke shit. /s

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woelkchenreply
lemmy.world

Don't worry. They already confirmed they'll do reshoots with Chris Pratt as Zelda.

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lemmy.world

I know this is facetious, but the mental image of Yoko Ono trying to act in a movie is making me upset for no understandable reason. Is like my unconscious hates her, for no reason I know or understand...

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I don't think Yoko Ono would act, but it would be a performance nonetheless.

And that mental image in itself is deeply disturbing

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As much as I want this to be good, I have a strong feeling it's gonna be mid at best. Not a great director, screenwriters aren't hitting, they have only released two actors names, and the producer is a mixed bag. I'm really hoping they can pull it out... but I'm definitely gonna keep my expectations low.

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mrgoosmoosreply
lemmy.ca

so, even worse than Wheel of Time stuff, then. I don't really remember the costumes for that but I do remember they weren't the main problem with the show, aside from being pristine. at least they weren't low quality

is that show even still on? I don't think I even made it through the second season because of how goddamn clean everything was. looked fake as shit

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mrgoosmoosreply
lemmy.ca

god that was such a disappointment

we could have had something so great

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Well, guess what happens when you let amazon of all fucking companies produce a tv adaptation of an influential/cornerstone fantasy book series...

What sucks is they probably own the license now, so no one else can do a better job...

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MimicJarreply
lemmy.world

I think mid is the best we can hope for. The only way it comes out great is it they go weird with it and tell a story like Majora's Mask. By all accounts it looks like we're going to get a Breath of the Wild type story, which is safe and fine but as a film isn't anything above mid.

I'm hoping they tell a weird story.

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So Mario Movie 2.5 then in terms of quality.

I really hope Eiji Aonuma was consulted for this. But nah, Miyamoto will have his whole liver-spotted hand in the pie and the story will be a total afterthought. Another "point-and-oooooh-I-know-that-thing!" movie.

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Of course it's going to be mid, none of the Zelda games have anything other than a boilerplate storyline except for Majora's mask. They'll have to make shit up and that almost never goes well

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That would be a fair assessment.

From the concept artist industry perspective, all the concept art was done using GenAI and a skeleton crew of artists to make it work for film. So I don't think this film had much of a budget and is aimed at fans of the game in general.

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Cethinreply
lemmy.zip

Legitimately, why do you hope it's good? Why do you even care? Even if you like the games, this is not part of that. It isn't interactive. Honestly, I don't see why it exists, except that certain people will give them their money for any piece of garbage that has an IP they've attached themselves to for some reason.

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lemmy.world

Because I want more things in my life that bring me joy? Seeing something I love from a new perspective sounds like a fun experience?

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I'm not saying to not enjoy this, or other things. I'm just saying that people mindlessly consuming any slop that has an IP attached is how we ended up in this situation. There's a lot fewer good and interesting things made, which actually have a hope of being good, because it's so much safer to make slop with existing IP. Even if it's bad (it almost always is, because they're making it purely for profit, not because they care about the IP like you do), it still prints money.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

Uh, given the recent spate of ... Nintendo movies... and fantasy shows... and the fact that Link is a silent protagonist (aside of basically grunts and exclamations of various emotional tones)...

I really don't see any possible way this could be good.

Brought to you by the director of 'Maze Runner', which currently has ~66% critic and user review score on Rotten Tomatoes.

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Now you are going to start a nerdy discussion whether Link really can't talk, doesn't want or like to talk or does indeed talk, even though not directly shown usually in the games.

There is plenty of reason to assume that he actually can talk fine, it was just omitted for convenience or immersion in the games. It was implied often by the dialogues thoughout various games.

Official mangas show him talking, dialogue options, or that e.g. Zelda learns Links name when asking him in OoT imply this as well.

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frankreply
sopuli.xyz

I actually liked maze runner (the first one), and I don't think the director was the problem(s) with it more than the story and a few of the actors were

But yeah no shot a Zelda movie is decent

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You mean like the kid fron We Are the Millers who had freshly tweezed eyebrows in every scene of this supposedly post-apocalyptic survivalist future?

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Ugh, I just had a visceral reaction when you said "Maze Runner."

I watched all three films back-to-back once, not out of interest or curiosity or commitment to the plot, no. It was out of masochism.

I knew that they were terrible movies all along, and yet I couldn't stop watching because I knew I deserved the misery and self-loathing that it was causing me...

And it wasn't even in a campy way that you could just laugh at and have a good time. They were just bad.

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I hope they used Link’s lines from OoT, I think it’s some of the best writing they have ever done

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Anyone else feel like the time for this was 2008? Circa Twilight Princess? Fans were clamoring for a movie back then because the games hit peak "cinematic" around that time, TP directly references events of OoT, it feels like a continuity, a single story.

Now? They've done so much with the franchise that it's become a paint color like Star Wars. Is there an appetite for it like there was 20 years ago?

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Ilandarreply
lemmy.today

There's arguably a larger appetite now, the popularity of the Switch has brought the series to a massive new audience. I understand your point though, Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword were really the peak of the linear, story-driven epics. The newer games have moved away from that formula a bit. I suspect this first film (there will be more if it is well received) will tell a very classic Zelda story that references many core elements of the series (similar to the first Mario film).

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lemmy.world

There's more appetite now than ever before. Over the half the total sales of the series are BOTW and TOTK. There's a whole generation of fans for whom this era is the definitive era of Legend of Zelda.

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sh.itjust.works

That's kind of my point. in BOTW and TOTK, the story is thin on the ground.

Literally. It's thin, and it's on the ground.

I've watched streamers who played BOTW first then play earlier games, and reacted with surprise at how much lore was in them.

I don't see it failing, sheer force of brand recognition will fill theaters. I'm just not sure they'll get anything good done.

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sopuli.xyz

I've watched streamers who played BOTW first then play earlier games, and reacted with surprise at how much lore was in them.

Meanwhile, the lore:

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sh.itjust.works

I mean, that game contains the in-universe creation myth, the origin story of the series' main villain, the establishment of four recurring in-universe races of people, and a host of ideas they're still riffing on to this day...but this is Lemmy, no non-existent homoerotica will be left uninvented.

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sopuli.xyz

Okay, that is some pretty deep lore.

But I just can't resist shitposting about femboy Link...

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(Funny thing is, most of that is from ALttP's manual. If you haven't, go find it and read it, the first 4 or 5 pages read like a design document for the rest of the series)

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lemmy.world

Twilight Princess......20 years ago.......

No. That can't be right.....

checks calander

..........father time, you dick!

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No mine is more of just a bell sound, because it heard the complaints from players about it talking all the time but it took it too literally.

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dan
upvote.au

Maybe they've cast Jack Black as Ganondorf lol

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lemmy.world

Was it? I've found Jack Black annoying in everything he's ever done. I do not understand the hype people have for him.

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Grassreply
sh.itjust.works

I don't hate him but he can't be anyone other than jack black. Every appearance I can only see him as jack black and not the character he is supposed to be acting as. He replaces the character.

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That's the sign of a bad actor. It's like reverse type casting.

Same way you watch 1989 Batman, and you see Jack Nicholas in face paint.

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That's his character though - annoying, but loyal loser struggling to make it Ina cruel world. It's what he does.

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I watched Gulliver's Travels cause I thought it would be interesting. I didn't realize ahead of time that it was supposed to be a kid's movie. (At least, I hope it was supposed to be a kid's movie, cause it would've been really shitty by any other standard).

And I have to say, seeing Jack Black acting in a kid's movie just felt wrong. I mean, I've seen that man do dick-ups. I've seen him have a placebo acid trip in the desert after peeing on a pregnancy test. Oil and water, man. Some things just don't mix.

Of course, the spontaneous jam sessions were pretty cringe too. Like, "You were cool twenty years ago, dude. It's okay to retire and be lame now, but the lamest thing you can do is to keep trying to be cool..."

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lemmy.world

No no no. Jack Black played Bowser.

OBVIOUSLY they cast Weird Al Yankovich.

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It would be so funny if they snuck in Felicia Day for a cameo with her as a fairy. (She played a fairy in the 2008 parody web series, "The Legend of Neil")

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lemmy.world

wait wait link gets really high and scene cut to a bunch of pottery breaking sounds

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lemmy.world

Scene: storeroom, deep beneath Hyrule castle.

Link: bumps into a ceramic pot, knocking it to the floor, shattering everywhere. Mixed in with the shards of pottery are several rupies.

Zelda: look of shock at what Link did.

Link: looks at pot, scared, then slowly looks up to Zelda.

Zelda: her gaze changes to a mischievous ear-to-ear grin.

Scene: pottery breaking music montage - everything in the storeroom is laid to waste.

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They really really need this in the movie. Or it's not a Zelda movie.

Also he needs to get attacked by a cloud of cuckoos.

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zikzak025reply
lemmy.world

Casting a girl as Zelda? When will the woke mob stop gender swapping characters??

Next thing you know, they'll cast Margot Robbie as Metroid. Smh my head.

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sp3ctr4lreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

I know you're joking, but I'm not.

No no no.

Not her.

Not Margot Robie.

... Her.

Olivia Thrilby.

It's only fitting for her to get a movie where she's the one behind a helmet this time.

Tell me she would not be a perfect fit as Samus.

You can't.

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Lemmayngreply
lemmy.world

Instructions unclear. Scarlett Johansen cast as Samus.

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sp3ctr4lreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

DREDD (2012)

The more modern Judge Dredd movie.

Mainly features Karl Urban's chin, as Judge Dredd.

He never takes off the helmet. Before Hollywood had even discovered Pedro Pascal / Mando.

Its essentially a near perfect action movie.

Not really meaningful commentary on society, arguably is copaganda...

... but it is a very competent 'dumb' action movie, punctuated with extreme violence and one-liner quips, actually does have decent characters and even some character development!

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lemmy.world

I don't know who Hunter Schafer is, but how about Hunter Biden as Zelda? Or Hunter Hearst Helmsly as Zelda?

Or you can go the easy route and pick Zelda Williams as Zelda......who does a lot of impressions of Genie from Alladin for NO REASON!!!

You ain't never gonna have a friend like me!

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lemmy.world

Should’ve just hired studio ghibli to animate a beautiful and poignant anime adaptation. Might be okay. Likely gonna be garbage.

The Netflix one pice gives me hope but also that in itself is pretty cringy campy nonsense at the end of the day (but incredibly well done).

Just waiting for the line delivered in a fake English accent more or less to the tune of “you’re a legend… Zelda!”

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Xennyreply
lemmy.world

No, he's right. They really should have gone the animated route. Imagine studio Ghibli making a Zelda movie based off of a Link to the past. That would go so fucking hard

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There's numerous animated features of Zelda... Including fan films and animations.

What he wants already exists, probably.

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lemmy.world

I'm expecting a mediocre movie that's an enjoyable watch, but ultimately forgettable. Same as the Mario movies.

I'm expecting Zelda will play just as large of a role in the film as Link.

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Same as the Mario movies.

I assume you're not including SMB93 in this, because NO ONE can forget that masterpiece.

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lemmy.world

Its going to take a lot of work to turn all that footage into pixel art.

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lemmy.world

I hope its better than the last 2 mario movies. They were OK for my son, but I would recommend them for anyone but kids that are mario fans. This could be a crowd pleaser if done right.

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krashmoreply
lemmy.world

I don't know, they were pretty much the best you would expect out of a movie based on a game like Mario. They weren't breaking new cinematic ground, but if that's what you were looking for in a Mario movie then that seems like a problem with expectations more than the movies themselves.

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Well excuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse him and many others for expecting a movie to be more substantial than a 90 minute advertisement, krashmo!

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szmer.info

People seem to be confused about why they thought this is a good idea, but to me this is expected.

I don't follow what Miyamoto does much, but based on what I heard (like Chris Pratt Mario...) I feel he's a showoff who probably wants ANY live-action movie of a Nintendo IP because it'd be cool. Zelda is the best one to qualify, maybe Metroid or Xenoblade (both of which are way less popular). They even tried more realism back with Twilight Princess.

I actually expect it'll be more or less like the Mario movie again, an unimpressive but solid success.

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I would love a Metroid film, but one that takes its cues from Moon where Samus is basically alone, but she has some kind of JARVIS-like companion with which to speak. Just big, abandoned spaces, punctuated by action set pieces.

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He (or anyone from the Japan branch, I think) didn't have anything to do with the last one, so it didn't matter. It's only recently that he started getting interested.

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And now they need a few years in the special effects department to apply the classical 8bit charm.

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lemmy.world

How much we want to bet the first big budget live action movie from the Zelda franchise will not feature Link as the main character or hero but will put the princess as the hero, main protagonist and will have to save Link from himself at some point?

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Ilandarreply
lemmy.today

I think that's pretty unlikely, Link is the iconic Zelda character. It's more likely they will go down the direction of making the two co-leads who meet early in the film and go on an adventure together to save Hyrule. I don't think the old trope of "hero saves the princess", or the modern reverse of that, will be a central part of the plot.

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minorkeysreply
lemmy.world

You said it's unlikely but the article has Zelda as a protagonist, suggesting it's quite likely.

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A film can have more than one protagonist. It's actually very common to have co-leads.

EDIT: Maybe you haven't been following this film at all, but the singular photo in this article was from a much earlier photo shoot that had the two leads standing side-by-side. It's not an indication that Zelda is the sole main character of the film.

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FrChazzzreply
lemmus.org

ngl, I’d lose it if his only line is a well-placed “well, eXcUsE mE, PrInCeSs!”

EDIT: I see that I am far from the only person to make this joke. Please accept my apologies for my lack of originality. For penance I shall spend an hour walking among ReDeads but not battling them.

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i would like to present to you the concept of parallel development. you were just as original as everyone else who has the same thought that developed into the same shape. it's the brainworm version of carcinization

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I'd like it if every time he starts to speak Navi yells LISTEN!

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He spoke in the TV series, and both BOTW and TOTK imply Link is a chatterbox with the same attitude as that TV series version of Link in some letters you find written by Zelda and others, which I found hilarious.

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this is so stupid

Open to interpretation, you’re neither right or wrong I suppose. I don’t agree.

why make this

Because Nintendo are starting to do movies.

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I have been dreaming of a TLoZ movie since I was a child. However, as most video game adaptions, I expect this will be rather shitty. At least I try to. To keep the level of disappointment low.

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lemmy.world

Nintendo desperately trying to keep their IPs relevant instead of releasing good new games.

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3DS and Switch Pokemon games in a nutshell.

The Pokemon Company (Nintendo + GameFreak + Creatures) higher ups dragged the game devs into the home console dev generation kicking and screaming, instead of, I dunno, letting Genius Sonority, who literally developed all the Pokemon console games up until then (Stadiums 1 and 2, Colosseum, XD, Battle Revolution) develop the Switch games.

Hell, they could've partnered with or even BOUGHT and absorbed Genius Sonority into TPCI. Wouldn't have fixed the horrendous dev cycle overall, but maybe, just maybe, it could've smoothed the transition just a bit more instead of being "Sonic had a rough (skin) transition into 3D Part 2: Electric Terrain Boogaloo".

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