I think it animates him, and he will continue to sanepost well into his 120s in the craziest falling empire in history. I imagine widespread ideological acceptance would break whatever phylactery keeps him going.
Bernie's the kind of cool dude who would continue to hope for more though, even if we did manage to fix all the awfulness with America — he would just see that progress as a good foundation to continue building more good stuff, in a "the work is never done" kind of way.
But certainly, that kind of work would be a hell of a lot more restful than what he's having to do now.
"You see, kidnapping children is good, actually, as long as those children had a tiny chance at being the victims of sexual abuse if you didn't kidnap them."
(Let's just agree not to worry about how many of those kidnapped children were sexually abused after being kidnapped...)
Yep. That's campist logic for you. The actions aren't wrong just the people doing them. Similarly the campist in the United States would complain about the lack of truly different political parties yet they would champion Xi and the CCP etc etc etc.
Partisan tribalism. Though it is all hypocritical and ludicrously tragic as well. To be able to identify oppression and tragedy correctly but only in others.
I can give you ten major publications that say Russian are taking kids from the occupied territories...that's the accepted narrative. But no matter what link you get, you're gonna claim it's not true so what's the point?
YOU are the one making claims that go against a widely-held belief so the onus is on you to provide evidence.
You'll note I haven't even taken a side here. I'm open to changing my mind if you have actual evidence for your claim
I can give you ten major publications that say Russian are taking kids from the occupied territories…that’s the accepted narrative
That's the 'accepted western narrative'.
IDC about mouthpieces
You think I should accept your 'beliefs' and deliver evidence of a thing that didn't happen? LOL
'narratives' or 'beliefs' don't count buddy.
So you admit you have ZERO proof or is that it?
I’m open to changing my mind if you have actual evidence for your claim
I'm not saying it's CORRECT, I'm saying that's the popular narrative. Almost everyone here believes it. No matter what link I provide that says Russians are taking kids from occupied regions, you're gonna say it's a lie. And it's pretty obvious nothing is going to convince you, anyway.
Which is understandable because you don't believe it's happening. But the onus is on YOU to debunk the popular claim, not on the person you replied to to prove it's real.
Not gonna waste my time compiling links. You can just look at the citations on the Wikipedia page and get mad at those.
I hope you're not actually trying to win this argument because you're doing a laughably bad job of it
LOL "Not gonna waste my time compiling links / onus is on YOU to debunk the popular claim "
Not delivering evidence for a claim except "we all believe it, trust me bro" and asking to disprove something didn't happen is 100% LOSING this argument' for you buddy.
I can tell you who's laughable here but since you don't even know how to argue with sources and use ridiculous tricks and fallacies as diversion you probably wouldn't grasp that either.
So you can run along now with your silly excuses, I'll just laugh at your failure.
LOL so you have ZERO proof and only prove to be a vulgar frustrated potty mouth that only offers insults as a last resorts.
I'll gladly let this be a testament to your embarrassing gutter level
The ones saved are the ethnic Russians from Donbass and Lugansk who fled the Banderite ethnic cleansing to Russia.
So that's probably what this guy ment.
The vast majority of the people went there and not to the west BTW.
Putin and Epstein were besties, also the Russian police is relatively cheap to bribe even in cases of CSA, as long as it doesn't become a public embarassment or you stay a Putin loyalist.
I wonder if Bernie gets tired of being on the right side of every issue all the time.
At least, I must imagine he gets tired of the country not fucking listening to him.
I think it animates him, and he will continue to sanepost well into his 120s in the craziest falling empire in history. I imagine widespread ideological acceptance would break whatever phylactery keeps him going.
We have to give Bernie the rest he deserves
We have to make America better
Bernie's the kind of cool dude who would continue to hope for more though, even if we did manage to fix all the awfulness with America — he would just see that progress as a good foundation to continue building more good stuff, in a "the work is never done" kind of way.
But certainly, that kind of work would be a hell of a lot more restful than what he's having to do now.
His perseverance over the decades has truly been phenomenal.
best blue MAGA sheepdog
You know that sheepdogs are rather willful and stubborn creatures due to their high intelligence and energy, correct?
Applying a modicum of common sense unfortunately seems to be a rare skill these days.
Bernie is the most unamerican politician out there
"You see, kidnapping children is good, actually, as long as those children had a tiny chance at being the victims of sexual abuse if you didn't kidnap them."
(Let's just agree not to worry about how many of those kidnapped children were sexually abused after being kidnapped...)
They were sexually abused in the name of fighting NATO, so that's totally OK.
Yep. That's campist logic for you. The actions aren't wrong just the people doing them. Similarly the campist in the United States would complain about the lack of truly different political parties yet they would champion Xi and the CCP etc etc etc.
are you using camp as in ludicrously tragic or as in partisan or some other usage? just trying to keep up
Partisan tribalism. Though it is all hypocritical and ludicrously tragic as well. To be able to identify oppression and tragedy correctly but only in others.
LOL that debunked "kidnapping children"
And now they're abused too?
Let's see some evidence.
As always, I don't expect any reply
How about some evidence that it was debunked?
Why do they need to provide evidence and you don't?
you make a claim you source and prove it
I can give you ten major publications that say Russian are taking kids from the occupied territories...that's the accepted narrative. But no matter what link you get, you're gonna claim it's not true so what's the point?
YOU are the one making claims that go against a widely-held belief so the onus is on you to provide evidence.
You'll note I haven't even taken a side here. I'm open to changing my mind if you have actual evidence for your claim
That's the 'accepted western narrative'.
IDC about mouthpieces
You think I should accept your 'beliefs' and deliver evidence of a thing that didn't happen? LOL
'narratives' or 'beliefs' don't count buddy.
So you admit you have ZERO proof or is that it?
I’m open to changing my mind if you have actual evidence for your claim
YES, DUDE. And you're on a western instance!
I'm not saying it's CORRECT, I'm saying that's the popular narrative. Almost everyone here believes it. No matter what link I provide that says Russians are taking kids from occupied regions, you're gonna say it's a lie. And it's pretty obvious nothing is going to convince you, anyway.
Which is understandable because you don't believe it's happening. But the onus is on YOU to debunk the popular claim, not on the person you replied to to prove it's real.
Not gonna waste my time compiling links. You can just look at the citations on the Wikipedia page and get mad at those.
I hope you're not actually trying to win this argument because you're doing a laughably bad job of it
LOL "Not gonna waste my time compiling links / onus is on YOU to debunk the popular claim "
Not delivering evidence for a claim except "we all believe it, trust me bro" and asking to disprove something didn't happen is 100% LOSING this argument' for you buddy.
I can tell you who's laughable here but since you don't even know how to argue with sources and use ridiculous tricks and fallacies as diversion you probably wouldn't grasp that either.
So you can run along now with your silly excuses, I'll just laugh at your failure.
LOL so you have ZERO proof and only prove to be a vulgar frustrated potty mouth that only offers insults as a last resorts.
I'll gladly let this be a testament to your embarrassing gutter level
Debunked how? (Let me guess, "CIA propaganda".)
I'll remind you that it's the tankie in the original post who brought up "saving" Ukranian children.
The ones saved are the ethnic Russians from Donbass and Lugansk who fled the Banderite ethnic cleansing to Russia.
So that's probably what this guy ment.
The vast majority of the people went there and not to the west BTW.
What a disgusting human
Surely this can't be real
No matter how stupid a position is
There is always someone stupid enough to take it up sincerely.
For a less-digital example, see: American politics recently
Putin and Epstein were besties, also the Russian police is relatively cheap to bribe even in cases of CSA, as long as it doesn't become a public embarassment or you stay a Putin loyalist.