Kristi Noem ‘blindsided’ by report about her cross-dressing husband
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Fuck that noise.
Privacy for the ghoul in charge of ripping people from their homes in the middle of the night? Fuck you.
Prayers for what? To have God help them stop being shitty and hypocritical? Fuck you again.
I love how they treat a family member being outed as a cross dresser like a death in the family. That so tracks.
That's the kind of society they're actively trying to achieve.
I'll pray for them, but they won't like it if my prayers are answered
Ah yes, the imprecatory Psalms.
Why? I'm praying for them right now. Praying that they get double cancer.
Heh. Double cancer, not just cancer ... but double!
No, I think I get it now. This is the excuse she will use to jettison the husband, and spend more time with her boy toy
Honestly, this guy could have a fetish as a cuck too. That would make a lot of sense. No shame for that, but plenty of shame for telling other people that they're evil for enjoying what they like.
Just send little figurines of the puppy she murdered, with prayers for it.
So this is the drag queen we were supposed to be worried about?
I wish my local movie theatre had this level of projection.
It's called iMax, no?
How was she supposed to keep track of what happens in her own home while she was jetsetting around on her fuck plane with her subordinate?
Does Lewandowski really count as her subordinate if he was the one who was running the show the whole time? all she really did was get her hair done, shoot ads for her YouTube channel, and get fucked in the back of a private jet. And then later in front of Congress.
"I don't give a fuck who they're screwing in private
I wanna know who they're screwing in public"
This bitch puts children in cages. Ridicule and shame her and her family for hypocrisy all you want, it's well deserved, but the fact that this even matters is pretty wild.
The only acceptable target for bullying is MAGA. Open season.
Lots of other verbs, too
Absolutely. It's no mystery that in a Venn diagram they are nearly a circle.
These fucking people... It's literally all projection, always.
The party of "traditional family values," everyone. If we manage to hold anything even remotely resembling free and fair elections in the future, the first order of business afterwards will need to be replacing all upholstery any of them have touched.
Nothing wrong with crossdressing. Though it sounds like he sent some of the pictures to others without consent which is much more of a problem of course (harassment)
But if he wants to dress up as a girl, why not.
He didn't dress up as a girl. He dressed up as a man, with giant knockers.
Yes true, I saw the actual pics after. It looks less like a real crossdresser to me and rather like a sophomoric joke that leaked.
I made that point elsewhere in the thread but I hadn't seen the pic when I made the above comment.
Isn't she screwing someone else anyway. All these people are hypocrites. If they say they hate cross-dressing, they love it. If they say they are Christian, they're anything but. If they say they have good family values, they're having affairs. Standard.
Why the fuck should we care? I think he would look awesome in a dress.
Because he is the spouse of a member of the party that is villifying drag and trans folks.
He might well do. But in the photo that's been widely published, he does not look particularly awesome - apart from anything else, he couldn't even be bothered to line up his fake nipples properly.
This is the only response for the left. He's legit, it doesn't bother us. It shouldn't have any negative effect on her public position. Let the right melt down further into stupidity over this.
This sort of headlines only show that liberals think that it’s ok to LGBTQ-shame sometimes
When a bigot turns out to have closeted queerness its OK to ridicule them.
It’s ok to ridicule them on their hypocrisy not on their sexual/gender preference
Correct.
These folks tend to have a pretty unhealthy personal relationship with their queerness. This person may not even be queer or trans in any way. We have no indication this person identifies as anything other than a straight cisgender male. They're most likely just a straight cis guy with a crossdressing fetish.
There is also a non-zero chance that he is just pissed off enough at his wife, who has been cucking him publicly with Lewandowski since the first Trump administration, to have gotten himself "caught" kinda sorta not by accident.
In the pic I saw he's looking directly at the camera, which would tend to indicate that he knew he was being photographed.
It's no guarantee he knew where that pic might end up, but on the other hand, in this digital age we ALL know that once a pic is taken, getting it out of every last repository is like trying to pull pee back out of a swimming pool.
Maybe right now he's happier than he's been in ages. I hope so, anyway.
TL;DR: I celebrate this guy's harmless kink, everyone should have one. And honestly, if he employed it to also fuck over his wholly unnatural plastic-filled, two-timing, puppy-killing, immigrant-persecuting, MAGA-loving, murderously fascist virago of a wife that he believed was actually human when he married it, then I celebrate his harmless kink even MORE.
I don't want any conservative to be happy at all. Everything else you said is fine, but I hope he's still miserable.
He might not share his wife's values though.
Most of us on this thread don't, I'd wager to guess.
No that's clear. Most of us on lemmy.world don't, that's why I hang out here and not on X or Gab
Ah, the classic conservative UNO reverse play when a conservative gets busted for a behavior they do in the shadows while spending the rest of their time making life hell for anyone who lives that lifestyle in public. “I’m not a hypocrite, I’m a victim of persecution for my lifestyle and you’re the hypocrite because libs are supposed to accept me!” It attempts to thwart the opposition by turning it on itself arguing over whether it’s proper to criticize, when at the end of the day the Christian ruling class is still in a position to dictate morality to the masses while engaging in whatever they want and demanding to not be confronted about the hypocrisy. You don’t get to enjoy the protection and support of people you’ve helped persecute just because we found out you enjoy the same lifestyle without atonement for everything you’ve done. They don’t want to join anyway, they want to go back to their double standard of none for us and whatever for them while they pretend like they’ve got the moral high ground.
The man shamed himself plenty by the choices he has made, including the shitbag woman he married and the ideology he publicly espoused. Don't act like we're the ones shaming him, or that we're shaming him for being LGBTQ.
We also shouldn't be certain he's queer. Like don't get me wrong, repressed egg is on the list of potential explanations, but he could be a cishet guy who developed this kink through other ways.
That's true, there are several reasons for men to crossdress. There's the people who genuinely like to look female (like trans people and drag queens), there's also those who feel it is 'dirty' or degrading and view it as a kink (sissification as it's usually called). There's also some who do it for other reasons without much gender/kink connotations (like for stag parties, initiation rites, carnival etc).
Not all of these imply LGBTQ, only the first one really.
In fact most of the people from the first group tend to be really elaborate about it and make themselves pretty, and not do a half-assed job like he did in that pic. So I would think he is probably not part of the LGBTQ community, at least not based on that pic (not that that would be a bad thing of course!). This looks more like a drunk weekend joke thing got out of hand.
Blindsided please. That's was the agreement that let her screw Corey in taxpayer paid aircraft. She's blindsided that now everyone knows.
Regardless of his actions, she still loves him as a member of her family. Just like her dog.
It will be interesting to see MAGA’s take on it. Is finding a new partner ok to them in this scenario, or should she be the subservient all-accepting wife?
I don’t often want to know MAGA’s opinion on anything, but to watch them come to an impassable intersection of their values will be fascinating.
Cons and magats live with cognitive dissonance every day. This is nothing new
Yes. It's a feature, not a bug, and the propaganda is made to do this by design: if you can keep someone in cognitive dissonance, you can feed them whatever cognitive slop you want, and then they have to find a way to explain it to themselves and keep believing, or face the consequences of realizing the whole thing is a lie, which are usually too high to bear. And it just piles on.
This is part of why the Trump Republicans hate James Talarico so much: he is showing the MAGA crowd you can (and should) be able to keep your Christianity and still ditch Trump, the two are not connected in any actual way except by propaganda. I think urban folks don't realize just how hard this conflation of MAGA and Christianity has been pumped in rural regions: to leave Trump is to face hellfire. To many of us that sounds ridiculous, and it is, but I'm not joking: they've made it so that to be Christian is to be MAGA, and to ditch Trump is to desert Christianity itself.
Strangely enough, the cognitive dissonance is also the weakest point in the whole scheme, and is why the trip out of cognitive manipulation often starts with the tiniest, often unnoticeable piece that doesn't fit: it sticks in their head and refuses to be argued away, and then something else happens, and something else. Cult deprogramming is all about this, allowing people physical space and time to find their own way out of the mental hole without ever actually forcing them to do so.
It's why getting rid of the news as infotainment is so critically important if we can ever get out of this mess: that's the source of the propaganda that keeps it going for the hardcore MAGA believers no matter what their orange god does.
Yeah... Now you mention it... Has anyone seen the dog??
I wonder how this ties into all the cosplaying she was doing, at taxpayer expense.
Cross dressing is now illegal in Ohio. In a bill that is vaguely worded and will be enforced very subjectively because nature didn't clarify what clothes are masculine and feminine
Things are bad; I'm not going to argue that things aren't bad. I'm not a lawyer, I eat crayons.
That Ohio bill hasn't been passed yet. I don't know how likely it is to pass. Too likely, I guess.
It also doesn't dictate a blanket ban on cross-dressing. What it does do is put "performers or entertainers who exhibit a gender identity that is different from the performer's or entertainer's biological sex" into the category of adult entertainments like stripping, meaning it's restricted in the same ways. No kids allowed. That's lines 153 to 165 here.
That's very big, it's very bad, it's very stupid, it's mean, it's anti-freedom. Un-American, I'd say. It would seem to create problems with Bugs Bunny, Harpo Marx, Monty Python, etc. But the most obvious thing it's targeting is "Drag Queen Story Hour."
But it isn't a ban on cross-dressing in general. Yet.
Edit: If you live in Ohio, you can find and contact your state Senator regarding House Bill 249, the "Indecent Exposure Modernization Act," through this page.
What color crayon is your favorite?
The red ones taste like my favorite glue.
the green ones slide further up my nose.
How are they defining performer or entertainer?
I don't see a definition in the bill. I don't know if there's a standard legal definition for that or not.
Even a good-faith interpretation of "performer" could leave some gray areas, I'd think. A song-and-dance number for an audience gathered for the purpose is a performance with a performer, sure. What about an appearance on a talk show, an interview, a forum discussion, a podcast?
Unfortunately, "performance" is a bit of jargon for a specific, unrelated concept in contract law.
The reservations your question suggests are very reasonable. I don't intend to dampen anyone's alarm at this absurd effort to implement legal, systemic bullying over nothing. I just so happened to be reading about the Ohio bill shortly before I came across FreshParsnip's comment.
Walking in public
I'd be fine with it as long as they include the church.
A small sacrifice for the greater good.
Unconstitutional in truth. Freedom of speech and expression.
so....who can wear socks?
Is she going to shoot him because she couldn't train him? Or does she only do that to dogs?
100% she's involved in the fetish. She's just embarrassed she got caught.
You’re assuming they even remotely like each other. Based on how they treat other people I think you can easily put this in question.
Nice distraction. But isn't the real issue murdering americans then calling them terrorists to justify it? Or forcibly deporting tons of people with no due process?
No, the problem is her husband dressed up with fake tits.
F’n blindside her again & repeat as often as necessary. And people, next blindside? With feeling please. And a 1 anda 2 anda 1234
Krusty Gnome taking L after L. You love to see it.
Lol there was black mail over this?
I mean if the Daily Mail found it then you can be sure that foreign intelligence found it way earlier. There's a reason you're supposed to do background checks and vetting for high level government officials. Since Trump doesn't give a shit about all that I wouldn't be surprised if more of his cronies aren't actively being blackmailed.
Also possible that Daily Mail found it out from foreign intelligence, maybe even as a consequence of Noem losing her value as a source.
Donvict is more worried about how they look - he is more concerned that they look like they came out of "central casting". The stupid dumbass thinks this is Hollywood.
Background checks are more to find actual wrongdoing like criminal activity.
It's more a problem of current American society that this is considered blackmail material at all.
Not when it comes to security clearances. There are certainly some convictions that will disqualify a person from even applying, but also plenty where you could have a misdemeanor conviction in your past and still get a security clearance if it doesn't make you blackmailable.
But they check for things like alcohol abuse, drug habits, sexual behavior, debt, gang affiliations, and any other dark secrets that could make you susceptible to bribery or blackmail. Cause if you have a security clearance and then fall for a foreign honeypot, it's bad news.
Unless you're a billionaire, member of congress, or otherwise born into the political elite, of course. Then they get you with the Israeli honeypot just for good measure, but they'll still give you a security clearance in that case because then they get to control you.
That's why it was such a big deal when trump forced clearances through for all his cabinet picks without proper investigations. Because if proper investigations were actually done, none of them would have qualified...
Yes. When I was interviewed by the FBI, because a friend of mine was seeking a clearance, this kind of thing was all they wanted to talk about. That was a couple decades ago, though.
We don't know his kinks, maybe he's into black males
Buttery males
The evidence is coming out
Is he a lumberjack? Is he OK?
Does he work all night and sleep all day?
he cuts down trees, he skips and jumps, he likes to press wild flowers
I dont know why I should care about this. Is this supposed to be politics?
This is the party accusing drag Queens of pedophilia. They decided to make this politics instead of real issues in society.
Okay, I see.
So they're accepting drag queens into the fold? I'm suprised.
If you look at the pictures he's clearly dressed as Kristi Gnome
and no link to the actual report itself
what shit journalism
(Not actually blindsided because she almost certainly had it leaked)
Why would she do that I wonder?
She may be stupid enough to:
Or she may be getting ahead of something, maybe her husband was starting to change his tune on the idea of being a loyal cuckold.
If you assume these people are completely vapid, self-serving, and totally incapable of actual loving relationships, and above all - operating with a real deficit of intellectual and emotional intelligence; all of which appear to be rock solid assumptions, none of the options I proposed seem very far fetched.
Ah ok the whole Lewandowski thing was news to me so I understand yeah. Maybe she's trying to make a case for a favourable divorce settlement also.
Oh, I see the Hypocrisy Religion is still active with new scandals.
It's a sham marriage anyway, she's with lewandowski, quite publicly. Her mar a lago face will turn him off soon now that she's out of power, yuck. Yuck, yuck, yuck. She looked better before the surgery, and now she has to take her face off and put it in a jar of adrenochrome every night. Fucking puppy murdering bitch, go to hell.
I don't believe any of this narrative. Its an orchestrated story and pictures. Like a false flag event on their marriage? Does it make it easier for her and cory to get married so they can't testify against each other?
No not really. They're two separate issues.
This is the problem with conservatives, they're all about loyalty so you must follow the company line or you're out. If someone is marked bad there can't be anything not bad about them. We progressives don't have that.
I can totally accept this kink and still hate Noem. I just can't use it as mud to sling at her but I don't have to because there's plenty of much more relevant wrongdoing she's guilty of. This doesn't even have much to do with her at all.
Not really. It’s pretty easy to separate kink shaming from hypocrisy shaming. No one’s doing the former, but we are doing a lot of the latter.
Yep. They only look similar to people trying to win points or defend the guy over rampant hypocrisy.
Cross dressing isn't even inherintly a kink.
Either way its easy to shame them for being hypocrites and pieces of shit so ¯\(ツ)/¯