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I am very good at long term planning I promise

Also important to note that the TRPF is largely about new machinery. Competition involves increasing technology, which raises the mass of commodities and usually the mass of profits, but lowers the rate of profit. This is only fought by further raising the mass of profits via expansion, which is why we get imperialism as capitalism grows.

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Easy solution: just make products for owners of other such companies

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Capital volume 2 goes over why this can't solve the problem, specifically the sections on departments 1 and 2 (producing means of production and means of consumption).

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I believe that the "falling rate of profit" is actually a real phenomenon, but it is not only caused by workers not being able to afford stuff.

It's also partially caused by other companies learning to produce the same products, which drives up competition, reduces monopolies and therefore reduces profits. Like consider medicine.

When you develop a new medicine, the first 20 years you have a patent right and therefore nobody else can produce the stuff. So you can set arbitrary prices and as long as people pay for it, you profit. But after your patent runs out, every company can produce it, which leads to cheap generica, and the rate of profit reduces significantly.

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other companies learning to produce the same products

Other companies in China.

Other companies in China cannot be bought and taken off the market.

The big question is: How are western profits going to be protected?

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Because the billionaires who get them want that to continue.

Of course if they are willing to share then there is no need. But the world doesn't look like being run by sharing individuals.

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Maybe in the long run, but corporate profits are sky high at present. Best believe there’s more juice they’re gonna squeeze from this rind.

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Also important to note that the TRPF is largely about new machinery. Competition involves increasing technology, which raises the mass of commodities and usually the mass of profits, but lowers the rate of profit. This is only fought by further raising the mass of profits via expansion, which is why we get imperialism as capitalism grows.

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Also your competition can poach those same outsourced workers it turns out.

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Yeah but it doesn't matter anymore the inequality is already achieved.

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Sure there will be a harsh transition stage, but ultimately they wont need slaves to consume products anymore.

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You reached the end