I... I know that... I'm just trying to point out how the insanity knob appears to just ratchet forward and there seemingly is no way to dial it back... we're just gonna keep cranking it up untill it blows out the amp, so to speak.
Of what? The Ms. Rachel post? I think that was it, the post was just a white screen that said Stop Killing Kids in the center. I saw it on Lemmy earlier but don’t have Twitter to look at the original myself.
"The Israelis hit civilians when destroying the rocket launcher we put on top of a hospital, so it's okay for us the paraglide into a music concert and just start killing and raping"
You can simply take the side of innocent people here, you know?
This isn't two sports teams going against each other. There are people okay with the mass killing of an entire people to further their own political and ideological goals, and there are those who are not. It really doesn't need to be any more complicated than that.
This is actually something I don't understand when this argument is brought up. Havent they both been killing each other since well before the modern period?
It made a little more sense when the argument was that Hamas is bad, but that doesn't justify collateral damage to Palestinian civilians when targeting them. But it seems to me the rhetoric I see often has switched to making excuses for Hamas, who directly tries to kill children whenever they get the opportunity, including putting their own Palestinian civilians in the line of fire to confuse attacks against them and get them killed as "martyrs". Which they use to justify their actions, even though they caused it.
I don't see how Israel' careless around getting noncombatants killed justifies deliberately targeting civilians, which Hamas does constantly, or doing things like putting a rocket launcher on top of a hospital just so it looks bad for Israel when they destroy it. It's not like Hamas wants a peaceful two-state solution and Israel just isn't playing along. And theres not a lot of anti-Hamas sentiment in Gaza since they get murdered by Hamas, and they did vote them in in the first place.
If you count the modern period as after 1900, there was no tension between the Jews and Palestinian Arabs because there were very few Jews actually living in the area. Jews made up about 3% of the population until the first Zionist conference in 1897. Following on from this, the colonial project began with European Jews moving to Palestine.
Historically every time a settler colonial population moves into a new area the demonise, oppress and attempt to kill off the native population. We had the British in Ireland, Spanish and Portuguese in south and central America, northern Europeans in North America, British again in Australia and new Zealand, European powers in the "race for Africa" and now the Jewish setter colonisers in Palestine. Israel does not want a two state solution, it is quite clear from the evidence at hand that the "greater Israel" project is their goal. The rest of the world needs to wake up to the obvious, Israel is shouting about it and the world is not listening. Boycott, Divest and Sanction the genocidal Zionists, this worked for South Africa and their apartheid regime.
She hosted Motaz Azaiza, the "journalist" who frequently praises Hamas, and was present with Hamas at the October 7th attack itself. So I correct myself, he only might have participated in directly killing civilians and children, but he was at least hanging out with his friends when they were doing that.
Is this the statement that made him Hamas? Fuck off with your goalposts
“If you want a besieged Palestinian to condemn it, you need to declare that you condemn what Israel [has] been doing against Palestinians before the 7th of October, since 1948 and during the genocide, and after it. Palestinians are not or not terrorists, Israeli killing Palestinians everyday like it’s a duty for them. Israel is a terror state,” Azaiza wrote on March 11, after he had left Gaza for his new base in Qatar.
She hosted Motaz Azaiza, the "journalist" who frequently praises Hamas, and was present with Hamas at the October 7th attack itself. So I correct myself, he only might have participated in directly killing civilians and children, but he was at least hanging out with his friends when they were doing that.
She hosted Motaz Azaiza, the "journalist" who frequently praises Hamas, and was present with Hamas at the October 7th attack itself. So I correct myself, he only might have participated in directly killing civilians and children, but he was at least hanging out with his friends when they were doing that.
This is Hasbara. So is everything else that you've written in this thread and, looking at your post and comment history, it looks like the MAJORITY of what you type up on lemmy is Hasbara.
Sooo, and I'm pretty against fedjacketing people online, and find that it can be pretty dangerous. But I'm fairly confident you are working for Mossad.
The Predator was after a worthy opponent. Something to give a challenge. The IDF are just bullies with guns. Think ICE but with different brown people.
I watched the animated Predator movie the other day, and was miffed that
::: spoiler Tap for spoiler
they would kidnap people who won against their hunters, freeze them for who knows how many years (thereby effectively ending their lives as they know it) and bring them across the galaxy to fight for their lives again. Respect that the winner won you sore losers. Absolutely no honor.
:::
No honor? The Yatuja believe that the only honor that matters is in your hunting prowess, literally every Yatuja has never lost a fight because they always fight to the death. They absolutely think it's an honor to be brought to Yautja Prime to fight against their leader, which is why they do that instead of just killing the people who beat a Predator. That's a huge sign of respect from them
I just feel like if they were acting honorably, they would have invited the victors instead of kidnapping them via what I assume was a cowardly ambush (based off the fact they have no memory of it), and freezing them until their loved ones were dead.
The Yautja have no concept of "loved ones". It is specifically brought up that Dek's older brother is a failure because he is protecting his weaker brother instead of culling him for the strength of the clan. You're using human emotional logic to justify your opinions instead of following Predator logic. The vast majority of Yautja would be champing at the bit to fight to prove they can beat the warlord. I still contend these humans have been given an incredible honor in Yautja society
that was dark humor not factual. I also enjoyed making a connection between two vile organizations. even though it looks like an anti connection the whole point of the joke is to make them look similar, precisely because of the reason you mentioned.
Not exactly. The predator won't attack the child because it would be boring to do so, not some ethical reasons as stated in the meme. I guess IDF finds it entertaining enough.
TBF they hopelessly outclass a lot of their opponents. 300lb super-strong trained alien fighter with thermal vision and crazy weapons hunting some dude with a rifle if you think of the OG Predator. Their victims probably didn’t even know what they were fighting. Not really that great.
I don't know about your country specifically, but here in France hunters regularly shoot at cyclists. Their main union even complained about a new law imposing a legal limit of blood alcohol content during hunting sessions.
our hunting regulations are all over the place but there was a period in history when a number of prominent politicians got killed during hunting "by accident". oddly enough they had ties with russia...
Predator Badlands was dope I’m looking forward to a sequel. Gonna watch Prey this weekend, see if it holds up. They’re kinda hit or miss, Aliens vs Predator should have been way better, hopefully they’ll give it another go with the current cast.
One thing the Predator movies always did well was giving the creature its own strange code of honor. Moments like that made it feel less like a mindless monster and more like a hunter with rules.
Yeah, sorry - NO. It's basic threat assessment, nothing to do with ethics. Those who attack a child do so because they are weak bullies taking advantage of an easy target - which obviously requires a lack of decent ethics, but not attacking that child doesn't mean the choice was made based upon ethics.
So we've gone from:
I like pancakes.
Why do you hate waffles?!
... to ...
Killing children is bad.
Obviously you must have brain damage that causes you to spread hateful bigotted conspiracy theories.
Somehow, reality ended up being more ridiculous and less believable than Metal Gear Solid 2.
Its b/c they specifically responded about Jewish people. They're outing themselves as child murderers b/c they feel attacked by the statement.
I... I know that... I'm just trying to point out how the insanity knob appears to just ratchet forward and there seemingly is no way to dial it back... we're just gonna keep cranking it up untill it blows out the amp, so to speak.
I get blanking everything unimportant to get the point across, but I do wonder what the rest of the text said...
Of what? The Ms. Rachel post? I think that was it, the post was just a white screen that said Stop Killing Kids in the center. I saw it on Lemmy earlier but don’t have Twitter to look at the original myself.
Yeah, I didn't even consider that it could've been that way from the beginning...
‘Are you in Hamas?’
Idk, the further context would be knowing how outspoken she (rightfully) has been about Israel. It's not like the post was shared in a vacuum.
That's the same excuse as
"The Nazis genocide is, so it's fine if we genocide others back"
I read this with yoda's voice.
Yeah that made it easier to understand.
It still gives context to why the person conflated the statement with Israel.
Though I think anyone in tune with the news cycle would conflate killing children with Israel.
"The Israelis hit civilians when destroying the rocket launcher we put on top of a hospital, so it's okay for us the paraglide into a music concert and just start killing and raping"
Two things can be bad at the same time.
You can simply take the side of innocent people here, you know?
This isn't two sports teams going against each other. There are people okay with the mass killing of an entire people to further their own political and ideological goals, and there are those who are not. It really doesn't need to be any more complicated than that.
And why exactly does Hamas exist in the first place? Surely not because Isreal has been killing Palestinians before Isreal was even an official state.
This is actually something I don't understand when this argument is brought up. Havent they both been killing each other since well before the modern period?
It made a little more sense when the argument was that Hamas is bad, but that doesn't justify collateral damage to Palestinian civilians when targeting them. But it seems to me the rhetoric I see often has switched to making excuses for Hamas, who directly tries to kill children whenever they get the opportunity, including putting their own Palestinian civilians in the line of fire to confuse attacks against them and get them killed as "martyrs". Which they use to justify their actions, even though they caused it.
I don't see how Israel' careless around getting noncombatants killed justifies deliberately targeting civilians, which Hamas does constantly, or doing things like putting a rocket launcher on top of a hospital just so it looks bad for Israel when they destroy it. It's not like Hamas wants a peaceful two-state solution and Israel just isn't playing along. And theres not a lot of anti-Hamas sentiment in Gaza since they get murdered by Hamas, and they did vote them in in the first place.
If you count the modern period as after 1900, there was no tension between the Jews and Palestinian Arabs because there were very few Jews actually living in the area. Jews made up about 3% of the population until the first Zionist conference in 1897. Following on from this, the colonial project began with European Jews moving to Palestine.
Historically every time a settler colonial population moves into a new area the demonise, oppress and attempt to kill off the native population. We had the British in Ireland, Spanish and Portuguese in south and central America, northern Europeans in North America, British again in Australia and new Zealand, European powers in the "race for Africa" and now the Jewish setter colonisers in Palestine. Israel does not want a two state solution, it is quite clear from the evidence at hand that the "greater Israel" project is their goal. The rest of the world needs to wake up to the obvious, Israel is shouting about it and the world is not listening. Boycott, Divest and Sanction the genocidal Zionists, this worked for South Africa and their apartheid regime.
Interesting. Kind of like what's happening in England.
Lmao what an absolute moron you are. If you really believe that though enjoy the taste of your own medicine :)
Source?
She hosted Motaz Azaiza, the "journalist" who frequently praises Hamas, and was present with Hamas at the October 7th attack itself. So I correct myself, he only might have participated in directly killing civilians and children, but he was at least hanging out with his friends when they were doing that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motaz_Azaiza
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/palestinian-journalist-motaz-azaiza-gaza-1.7092862
https://www.newarab.com/news/gaza-motaz-azaiza-anti-war-comments-divide-palestinians
What are you talking about.
Is this the statement that made him Hamas? Fuck off with your goalposts
https://www.timesofisrael.com/french-jews-decry-normandy-region-plan-to-honor-pro-hamas-journalist/
When?
She hosted Motaz Azaiza, the "journalist" who frequently praises Hamas, and was present with Hamas at the October 7th attack itself. So I correct myself, he only might have participated in directly killing civilians and children, but he was at least hanging out with his friends when they were doing that.
She hosted Motaz Azaiza, the "journalist" who frequently praises Hamas, and was present with Hamas at the October 7th attack itself. So I correct myself, he only might have participated in directly killing civilians and children, but he was at least hanging out with his friends when they were doing that.
This is Hasbara. So is everything else that you've written in this thread and, looking at your post and comment history, it looks like the MAJORITY of what you type up on lemmy is Hasbara.
Sooo, and I'm pretty against fedjacketing people online, and find that it can be pretty dangerous. But I'm fairly confident you are working for Mossad.
No, I just hate Palestine redditors lmao
Maybe then, you should consider where your hate is coming from, especially if the stuff you're saying is word-for-word state propaganda.
The Predator was after a worthy opponent. Something to give a challenge. The IDF are just bullies with guns. Think ICE but with different brown people.
confirming that terrorist is yank for "very based person"
ATAW
All Terrorists Are Woke
I watched the animated Predator movie the other day, and was miffed that
::: spoiler Tap for spoiler they would kidnap people who won against their hunters, freeze them for who knows how many years (thereby effectively ending their lives as they know it) and bring them across the galaxy to fight for their lives again. Respect that the winner won you sore losers. Absolutely no honor. :::
No honor? The Yatuja believe that the only honor that matters is in your hunting prowess, literally every Yatuja has never lost a fight because they always fight to the death. They absolutely think it's an honor to be brought to Yautja Prime to fight against their leader, which is why they do that instead of just killing the people who beat a Predator. That's a huge sign of respect from them
I just feel like if they were acting honorably, they would have invited the victors instead of kidnapping them via what I assume was a cowardly ambush (based off the fact they have no memory of it), and freezing them until their loved ones were dead.
The Yautja have no concept of "loved ones". It is specifically brought up that Dek's older brother is a failure because he is protecting his weaker brother instead of culling him for the strength of the clan. You're using human emotional logic to justify your opinions instead of following Predator logic. The vast majority of Yautja would be champing at the bit to fight to prove they can beat the warlord. I still contend these humans have been given an incredible honor in Yautja society
If the Predators thought it was an honor, why kidnap them? Surely they would come willingly?
A warrior's face is the same, regardless of whether or not they chose to be in the situation they are in.
'Willing' implies choice, including the choice to be a coward.
Battles imply constraints and conditions you cannot change, combat proficiency implies adaptability to any situation.
The Yautja force the scenario, as a test.
Being granted the second test is itself an honor.
You were worth their time, their considerstion.
You passed round one, which is ... significantly uncommon.
To them, they've granted you the privilege of knowing that cowardice, flight, is not an option: You must fight.
This makes the battle strategically simpler, for you, as a courtesy.
If this sounds inhuman... welcome to Comparative XenoEthics 101.
If you cancel the class, you're expelled, if you fail, you're expelled.
And if you even think about dropping the class: I can see the internal ongoing processes in your brain, in realtime.
Do not trifle.
One mans kidnapping is anothers escorting.
When you're a Predator, they let you do it
Just grab em by the skully
Why would you care about a lesser species' opinion? Why would you hold them to a lower standard than you hold yourself?
Well you just brought up they do have familial feelings. They just choose to be a culture centered around pointless murder around the galaxy.
Gotta disengage those mamallian parts of your brain, just use the newer, fancier bits, and the more basal, reptillian bits.
IDF hates kids, think opposite of Epstein circle. Predator is impartial towards kids.
In no way the Epstein circle is the opposite. Rape is not love, those people are rapists not pedophiles.
that was dark humor not factual. I also enjoyed making a connection between two vile organizations. even though it looks like an anti connection the whole point of the joke is to make them look similar, precisely because of the reason you mentioned.
They have more sense than your average American cop, too.
Not to ruin the shitpost, but Predator didn't attack the child only because it posed no challenge.
Yes, that's the point. The predator won't attack a human child because they are incapable of defending themselves. The IDF doesn't care about that.
Not exactly. The predator won't attack the child because it would be boring to do so, not some ethical reasons as stated in the meme. I guess IDF finds it entertaining enough.
Both are psychopaths but one seems to have slightly higher standards
IDF delight in killing children.
The alien sport-hunter who kills people to collect their bones as trophies is not a role model!
This is why I’m team xenomorph. No agenda, no philosophy, no sermons. Just equal opportunity face-hugging and chest-bursting.
Don't fuck with team Yeerk, they'll get in your head before you know it, live there rent free.
The andalorians were the real assholes the entire time.
Andalites.
... But yes. They're fucked up too.
Doh. Thanks.
This is the way.. no wait thats from the Mandalorians
As someone really big into sportsmanship, no. They really are good role models. They have impeccable sportsmanship.
TBF they hopelessly outclass a lot of their opponents. 300lb super-strong trained alien fighter with thermal vision and crazy weapons hunting some dude with a rifle if you think of the OG Predator. Their victims probably didn’t even know what they were fighting. Not really that great.
But they're not teabagging the low level humans and saying GGEZ after taking their skulls and spinal column as a trophy.
There's gotta be one out there teabagging Xenomorphs.
So, like, a 'hunter' in a high hide shooting an elephant 300 metres away?
Of course they do. The first movie shows they are honorable killers / hunters. Afaik, this has always been part of their lore.
I mean Predator seems kinda woke with that rainbow view, so it only makes sense.
this isnt even a shitpost, its just a good post.
Lol, I just recognized the name from spending ages discussing the monarchy with this guy. Seeing this post I checked his other comments; jeeeeeeeesus.
Predators do it for the hunt, not because of hate or fanaticism.
There's a difference between predators and fascist psychopaths
Hah memes are funny.
deep sigh
That's not a shitty movie detail, that's a depressingly accurate observation.
Predator is a hunter so his threat assessment is superior to trigger happy freikorp LARP.
I don't know about your country specifically, but here in France hunters regularly shoot at cyclists. Their main union even complained about a new law imposing a legal limit of blood alcohol content during hunting sessions.
our hunting regulations are all over the place but there was a period in history when a number of prominent politicians got killed during hunting "by accident". oddly enough they had ties with russia...
If predators have a union in your country the problem is deeper than you think.
And American police and gun-toting civilians
Predator Badlands was dope I’m looking forward to a sequel. Gonna watch Prey this weekend, see if it holds up. They’re kinda hit or miss, Aliens vs Predator should have been way better, hopefully they’ll give it another go with the current cast.
Prey is the better movie of those two, and I say that as someone who enjoyed Badlands.
Awesome, I've only seen Badlands myself so I've gotta watch prey now
I haven't seen them all but prey is easily my favorite.
Great film, especially the native American language version
That, the goofy beartrap headshot, and the fact it was put together in DaVinci Resolve instead of Adobe and the likes 🙄
I thought they just liked killing kids
Oh, I'm gonna carry that weight.
One thing the Predator movies always did well was giving the creature its own strange code of honor. Moments like that made it feel less like a mindless monster and more like a hunter with rules.
IDF are low bar or A.K.A. no-bar.
Make sure to turn on rebar.
Better than cops too.
Tbf it recognises the gun as a toy.
IDF has a long history of blowing up kids playing soccer on the beach, and shooting kids for throwing stones and let them bleed to death. It doesn’t really seem like they try to determine threat status.
They're worse than I thought
Some people call me Maurice
I don't think its ethics more a lack of challenge.
Not engaging in an easy kill because it would lack challenge is an example of...
*drumroll*
The envelope, please.
*rustling of paper*
...ethics.
children_cheering.mp3
Did you miss me?
This is weak sauce. So... whatever LOL.
Yeah, sorry - NO. It's basic threat assessment, nothing to do with ethics. Those who attack a child do so because they are weak bullies taking advantage of an easy target - which obviously requires a lack of decent ethics, but not attacking that child doesn't mean the choice was made based upon ethics.
TL;DR: Correlation != Causation.