I'd never heard of IPFire before searching btw, and it's not a general purpose distribution. I cannot find any active distro for J, but I found this JustEnoughLinuxOS
This sentence is the problem that most people who are basic windows end users experience. They have no fucking clue why so many versions exist (or flavors what have you) and have no idea what to install. Windows gives them the comfort of an all encompassing OS even if it's shitty it's easy. My 67 year old mom probably can't just use Linux.
Lots of Windows users don't even know they use Windows, so I don't think this really matters, as long as the computer comes preinstalled with a user-friendly distro or their tech savvy grandson sets it up for them.
Now is the right time to start a small business migrating Windows 10 EOL machines to Linux for people who can't afford new machines and offering service plans to help them if they're stuck.
That's basically how Red Hat does it for corporations, they don't sell Linux, but they sell service and support for it.
Will it be exceptionally profitable? Not at all.
Will it be a pro-social and helpful thing to do for your community while making maybe enough money to scrape by? Yes.
This is how you build community.
EDIT: If you're independently wealthy or have the support structures, you can also just do it all for free which is even more pro-social, but most of us need at least a meager income in exchange for our time and labor to stay alive, sadly.
Currently happy with Linux on the old-ass Chromebook I bought for a whopping fifty cents. Works great. Does everything I need it to. Am laughing at Microsoft depreciating old hardware and laughing at new hardware prices.
Might eventually upgrade to a laptop that has a touch screen... But only if it's under $5.
Well, my fifty cent chromebook doesn't have a touch screen, so I wouldn't know.
But I'm using Graphite OS on it, a lightweight Linux variant with a specially tailored kernel to work on old Chromebook hardware, including drivers for all the weird stuff. Everything it has works, even the little special feature buttons and stuff. No longer an actively maintained project, unfortunately, but it works well enough for now. I'd love to see someone revive it with support for more modern Linux kernels. (Unfortunately, I can't update the kernel without losing some of the special modifications that make it work more efficiently on a chromebook and include chromebook-specific hardware drivers.)
I guess the other main limitation is that the thing's only internal storage is a whopping 16GB. But Graphite and all the apps I need still fit with ~8GB to spare. And it has an SD card slot, so I can easily add external storage.
I have a Chuwi Hi8, a cursed attempt at a x86 android tablet poorly pretending to also be a tabletPC. Debian runs fine on it. The only thing still not supported is automatic screen rotation. (it still took ten years to get the wifi to run with it though). So if it's not supported now, someone will try to fix that.
I've been in Debian for the last year and a half, must admit that I really love it, my old yoga pad from 2013 runs smoothly, and air bought it from second hand. I do even play things like Morrowind.
It did never run w10 as smooth as it does with Debian.
A long long time ago, when I got my first PC, one single MB of ram was $100, so having 4mb was pretty boss! But then win95 dropped and demanded 8mb of ram to run anywhere near half decent, this happens with every Gen of new windows platforms
But Windows 95 didn't refuse to install itself on hardware that otherwise was capable of running it. Windows 11 will not install (without jumping through hacky hoops that could break at any time without warning) on a computer that doesn't have TPM 2.0 even though it can run just fine on computers without it.
Still on Mint. Haven't needed to load my windows drive up in weeks. My non-tech enthusiast partner is coming around to trying Linux after seeing what a shitshow 11 is on her work computer. It would be great to get her to switch over before my 140 dollar bill for Office 365 needs to be renewed.
I've also got some other family members who are interested in trying it out, which is really saying something for a group of people who got started with Win 95, and are very proficient and comfortable in Microsoft's ecosystem.
Arch is Amazing. Bazzite is Beautiful. CentOS is Civilized. Debian is Dope. Endeavour is Enchanting. Fedora is Fantastic.
I use Fedora so I'm stopping at F.
Gentoo is great. Hannah Montana Linux is happening.
... nothing comes to mind for I, passing that along to the next person.
IPFire is inflammable, ...
I'd never heard of IPFire before searching btw, and it's not a general purpose distribution. I cannot find any active distro for J, but I found this JustEnoughLinuxOS
JeOS is just part of Ubuntu Server now
Kubuntu is Kinda a thing?
Linux is Linux
Manjaro is Megafun
NixOS ... is Now?
OpenSuse is Open
I got nothing for 'p'
Puppy Linux is Perfect.
We don't speak of Manjaro. Not even for memes. Mint can be mega for alliteration
Manjaro is Missing another certificate
Lubuntu is lightweight
And Ubuntu is ... also there.
Ubuntu is Snappy
/s
Or Unsafe because it has the firewall disabled by default.
Ubuntu is uhh...
It Used to be great. Now, uBuntu is a bit Bloated...
Use TempleOS! It is divine
C C C COMBOBREAKER
Mint is minty
ZorinOS is Zen.
PopOS! is praiseworthy
Nixos is greeeeeaaaaat...... Well I kinda hate it, but also love it.
Gaming on nixos is thanks to valve a no brainer.
But anything else might be more difficult on nixos. But also more configureable and immutable
This sentence is the problem that most people who are basic windows end users experience. They have no fucking clue why so many versions exist (or flavors what have you) and have no idea what to install. Windows gives them the comfort of an all encompassing OS even if it's shitty it's easy. My 67 year old mom probably can't just use Linux.
Lots of Windows users don't even know they use Windows, so I don't think this really matters, as long as the computer comes preinstalled with a user-friendly distro or their tech savvy grandson sets it up for them.
OpenSuSE still the wallflower
I miss how i used to think Capitalism was healthy and competition from rival businesses fostered innovation - until they all teamed up against us :(
That's what the "deregulation" "conservatives" have been screeching about for the past few decades is all about.
That's basically the end game of capitalism: Plutocracy.
I thought Fascism was the end game of Capitalism.
How do you think the Plutocracy is maintained.
I suppose they go hand-in-hand
Imagine a system that incentivises greed and self-interest, and which runs on competition.
Now run that simulation through your mind a few decades.
If it doesn't end up with vastly fewer companies competing over vastly larger portions of the market, your simulation wasn't set up accurately.
Yup. Bazzite for the win!
Now is the right time to start a small business migrating Windows 10 EOL machines to Linux for people who can't afford new machines and offering service plans to help them if they're stuck.
That's basically how Red Hat does it for corporations, they don't sell Linux, but they sell service and support for it.
Will it be exceptionally profitable? Not at all.
Will it be a pro-social and helpful thing to do for your community while making maybe enough money to scrape by? Yes.
This is how you build community.
EDIT: If you're independently wealthy or have the support structures, you can also just do it all for free which is even more pro-social, but most of us need at least a meager income in exchange for our time and labor to stay alive, sadly.
Currently happy with Linux on the old-ass Chromebook I bought for a whopping fifty cents. Works great. Does everything I need it to. Am laughing at Microsoft depreciating old hardware and laughing at new hardware prices.
Might eventually upgrade to a laptop that has a touch screen... But only if it's under $5.
Linux distros have driver support for a Chrome book touch screen?
Lol, I'd like to see that
Well, my fifty cent chromebook doesn't have a touch screen, so I wouldn't know.
But I'm using Graphite OS on it, a lightweight Linux variant with a specially tailored kernel to work on old Chromebook hardware, including drivers for all the weird stuff. Everything it has works, even the little special feature buttons and stuff. No longer an actively maintained project, unfortunately, but it works well enough for now. I'd love to see someone revive it with support for more modern Linux kernels. (Unfortunately, I can't update the kernel without losing some of the special modifications that make it work more efficiently on a chromebook and include chromebook-specific hardware drivers.)
I guess the other main limitation is that the thing's only internal storage is a whopping 16GB. But Graphite and all the apps I need still fit with ~8GB to spare. And it has an SD card slot, so I can easily add external storage.
I have a Chuwi Hi8, a cursed attempt at a x86 android tablet poorly pretending to also be a tabletPC. Debian runs fine on it. The only thing still not supported is automatic screen rotation. (it still took ten years to get the wifi to run with it though). So if it's not supported now, someone will try to fix that.
🐧
I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the video games I'm playing in Mint.
that mint iso is just sitting there. mocking me.
You can do it!!!
My 2009 i5 pc is still going strong on Fedora. With a 1060, can play most of the games.
Still have a 2009 Acer Aspire One running. Slow but fine for web and email and doc editing. Also small and battery lasts quite a while.
I've been in Debian for the last year and a half, must admit that I really love it, my old yoga pad from 2013 runs smoothly, and air bought it from second hand. I do even play things like Morrowind.
It did never run w10 as smooth as it does with Debian.
Can't be properly third world without a modern computing deficit, right? 🤔
I don't regret my decision to switch to Linux.
Microsoft pissed me off so much last week I finally listened to the fedi hive mind and installed mint. Feels good man.
Joke's on them, life with an old laptop, a new battery,and Debian is amazing
I put kubuntu on an old laptop. It runs well enough that I am going to dual boot it on my main PC.
Microsoft out here doing Linux marketing for them.
It's always been this way....
A long long time ago, when I got my first PC, one single MB of ram was $100, so having 4mb was pretty boss! But then win95 dropped and demanded 8mb of ram to run anywhere near half decent, this happens with every Gen of new windows platforms
But Windows 95 didn't refuse to install itself on hardware that otherwise was capable of running it. Windows 11 will not install (without jumping through hacky hoops that could break at any time without warning) on a computer that doesn't have TPM 2.0 even though it can run just fine on computers without it.
You're right, you could install on a 386, but it ran like shit on anything less than a pentium.
Still on Mint. Haven't needed to load my windows drive up in weeks. My non-tech enthusiast partner is coming around to trying Linux after seeing what a shitshow 11 is on her work computer. It would be great to get her to switch over before my 140 dollar bill for Office 365 needs to be renewed.
I've also got some other family members who are interested in trying it out, which is really saying something for a group of people who got started with Win 95, and are very proficient and comfortable in Microsoft's ecosystem.