Sometimes I still see job postings that are like "MUST KNOW OBJECT ORIENTED PROGRAMMING" and I'm wondering who in 2026 isn't at least passably familiar with it.
But then again I also see job posts that are like "must know Java or JavaScript"
Or do as Alan Kay wants and start calling it "Message-Oriented Programming".
"I'm sorry that I long ago coined the term "objects" for this topic because it gets many people to focus on the lesser idea. The big idea is "messaging"."
I still get sad when I think about Objective C and how it didn't take off vs C++ just because it had ugly syntax (which becomes beautiful once you understand why it is the way it is)
Both C++ and Objective-C aimed to be "C with classes". C++ does it by hijacking existing syntax (struct), Objective-C does it by adding new syntax, while leaving the original minimalism of C untouched.
In fact, it's a strict superset of C, which means it doesn't change anything at all in C, it only appends. So every valid C program is a valid Objective C program (which is not true for C++).
You know how some C programs are valid C++ programs though? Well, those same programs can use Objective C features too, meaning you're able to use them in C++... Meaning you're able to code in "Objective C++" (which is very common for interop purposes)
From my understanding, yes. Personally, I've seen so many different definitions of "OOP" (most of which were incoherent), I developed my own definition of what an 'object' is, and just go on with life.
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It's just like Lenin wanted!
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Sometimes I still see job postings that are like "MUST KNOW OBJECT ORIENTED PROGRAMMING" and I'm wondering who in 2026 isn't at least passably familiar with it.
But then again I also see job posts that are like "must know Java or JavaScript"
What is not clear is if the software development division updated their practices.
Exactly, if there's even the slightest risk that I'll need to dust off the good ol ajax that's a nope from me.
There’s a lot of legacy stuff around. I saw some CORBA in the wild recently.
So many sites still use that with a shiny UI slapped on top.
Considering most people only know procedural programming and are calling it functional/objective...
Seize the means of prod!
Or just prod! Seize prod
Deploy broken code straight to prod?
Testing is for those who are not confident in their programming skills.
Object.property = theft;
sieze(worker, ObjectFactory.meansOfProduction);
Or do as Alan Kay wants and start calling it "Message-Oriented Programming".
"I'm sorry that I long ago coined the term "objects" for this topic because it gets many people to focus on the lesser idea. The big idea is "messaging"."
https://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/1998-October/017019.html
I still get sad when I think about Objective C and how it didn't take off vs C++ just because it had ugly syntax (which becomes beautiful once you understand why it is the way it is)
Why is it the way it is?
Both C++ and Objective-C aimed to be "C with classes". C++ does it by hijacking existing syntax (struct), Objective-C does it by adding new syntax, while leaving the original minimalism of C untouched.
In fact, it's a strict superset of C, which means it doesn't change anything at all in C, it only appends. So every valid C program is a valid Objective C program (which is not true for C++).
You know how some C programs are valid C++ programs though? Well, those same programs can use Objective C features too, meaning you're able to use them in C++... Meaning you're able to code in "Objective C++" (which is very common for interop purposes)
I’m still mad at Apple for making Swift instead of Objective-C 3.0. It was such a powerful and small language.
C++ has a billion features and Swift is getting more every year.
Objective-C was fast to compile, great in a debugger, and allowed lots of creativity and patching broken system components.
Lots of great software was written with it. CocoaBindings are magical.
I skimmed that.
So you've got a bunch of message transceivers (aka objects). And the magic is in the message soup.
Yes?
From my understanding, yes. Personally, I've seen so many different definitions of "OOP" (most of which were incoherent), I developed my own definition of what an 'object' is, and just go on with life.
Fuck OOP all my homies use DOD.
Department of defense?
It's DoW now, baby. And apparently, it's over 50,000!
Data Oriented Design
This but unironically
And then the code has removed your whole database.
in scheme, everything* is first class!
*i haven't checked