I was quite out of the loop, but it sems like TeamSpeak 6 is now a full fledged self-hostable Discord alternative? TeamSpeak 6 Is Back: New Design, Screen Sharing, and More
Discover the exciting new features of TeamSpeak 6, including a complete redesign, screen sharing capabilities, and community server management, all aimed at improving user experience in gaming communication.
https://www.tech2geek.net/teamspeak-6-is-back-new-design-screen-sharing-and-more/Open linkView original on piefed.zip209
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Still closed source proprietary software, but good for them.
Still better than Discord's age verification
Until it's just as bad. Just move to Stoat (formerly Revolt) or Fermi.chat and save yourself the headache of another centralized platform going to shit.
Neither of those have working audio channels yet right?
I've been following Stoat, their documentation states that self hosted voice channels don't work (I think their official server does though), and also you have to recompile their client software to hard code the link to your server.
That feels so much like niche coder hobbyist hurdles that I really doubt people en masse would make the switch by themselves.
Yeah I'm really hoping they just add a button in the client to connect to a custom server (like how Bitwarden works), as well as actually update the self hosting images and instructions. I've been keeping tabs on them for almost a year now, and still no progress on that front.
Oh yeesh. Sounds like it's got a good way to go before regular use becomes viable
Stoat seems to, though I've not actually tested it. But my system audio devices showed up in the browser client as inputs, so that's a good sign that something is there.
As someone else said, stoat isnt federated. It also doesnt have E2EE. Meaning in practice, you are still using a centralized service that can enshitify. You could self host, but your friends aren't going to switch to your small self hosted instance if everyone is on the central server.
Or Matrix, which is federated.
It's decentralized, not federated I thought...? Are there other services that use the Matrix protocol?
Federated means that different servers can talk to each other and decentralized means that there is no server.
There is also nothing stopping someone from using the Matrix protocol to create another service, though I don't know of one that exists.
no, it means there's no central server. You still need a Matrix server to handle communications, but there's no "central matrix server", the servers discover each other based on a baked-in "known good" server list + ad-hoc discovery (e.g. if a server has a group chat with a member of a server your server doesn't know yet, and you join that group chat, your server and the unknown one exchange metadata and so on).
You just described federation.
I tried to set one up but a bunch of people had trouble even signing up. I'm finding Element (Matrix) is less troublesome so far.
That's good to know. I sincerely appreciate you sharing your experience
You can self host Teamspeak and the self hosted version at least has voice chat unlike Stoat.
Yea but there are FOSS options that even work with Discord bots and tools.
Team speak? What year is it?
I remember hosting a teamspeak server for folks I played Wolfenstein: ET with. In the early 2000's.
Next week, let's bring back Ventrilo!
Vi sitter här i venten...
I'm still stuck on Mumble.
Mumble is great for VC tbh, doesn't really do anything else well though but I use it for VC
Mumble is great. I don't think there's anything with better voice quality.
I hope Element Call comes close when it's out of beta. Using a single app for both text and voice chat would be slightly more convenient than using two.
I was just thinking about xFire the other day, randomly. Maybe it's a sign!
You guys are making me age like Matt Damon!
Jesus, it's like ![email protected]: MFs will really do anything to avoid switching to an alternative that's actually Free Software.
Is there a free software with voice chat and screen sharing? I am searching for one.
Matrix has VC, but not sure about screen sharing.
I think Jitsi Meet can do screen sharing, but that's a separate platform from Matrix dedicated to video calls, although I think Matrix clients can integrate with it IIRC.
I will definitely check out jitsi. Thanks man!
Element call (Matrix) has screen share, Signal does as well.
Apparently it doesn't really support audio with screen sharing. I do want to share the audio as well so i can watch youtube and stremio with friends
I havent tried it myself so I can't verify but is this the same problem/situation in this github issue?
https://github.com/element-hq/element-call/issues/3142
If it is someone supposedly posted a solution.
I have heard from tons of people, especially here on Lemmy who have tried to move people and communities over that it is often abandoned due to a huge amount of fundamental and UX problems that make it a huge pain to deal with and admin for and keep updated without a bunch of things breaking.
https://fluxer.app/
This seems very promising. It's a self hosted discord. Basically exactly what I was searching for. It looks like it's a bit buggy for now but I will test it when I get home.
That looks interesting, and since it's licensed under GPL I do genuinely hope it's successful,
It'll have to prove that it can eventually scale at least as well as the battle proven XMPP protocol (apparently the main Fluxer server is already experiencing lag from the sudden growth its gotten after the discord announcement). And it'll be competing with the Movim XMPP client (which may reach feature parity with Fluxer soon). But I do wish the dev luck. They seem pretty chill, and with more contributors, I could see it taking on Discord.
Looks interesting!
The new element call has both but has not been implemented in all clients yet
Most clients are probably waiting until it's out of beta before they implement it. From what I've seen of the design, it does look pretty great. Looking forward to it being fully specced and released.
Movim (XMPP client) can, though I'm unsure if it streams application audio when screensharing.
Having tried it:
Voice chat is flawless
Video chat/streaming is arguably better than discord*
Text chat leaves a LOT to be desired. Its there, I guess.
*on linux YMMV
This is the biggest hurdle. Plus the streaming is still p2p so it won't work to steam to larger groups very well.
Have they released the server parts of TS6 yet? Last I checked, it wasn't available on the download page.
https://github.com/teamspeak/teamspeak6-server
Ah, good point
https://teamspeak.com/en/downloads/#server
Yep, still only TS3 for the servers.
I have to try this yet, but on the docker hub there is an image that looks like it's legit with 100k+ pulls, if containers are your thing...
Does the TS6 client work with the TS3 Server? I would assume not. Can you still buy/pay for a Server hosted by them but managed by yourself?
good because it looked like it was designed in the 1940s
From what I’ve seen stoat or matrix(using element or whatever you want) look like the best options? TS6 has no mobile or web, and has been in beta for years.
Reading their site has me a little confused. Do you have to pay to rent a server if all you want to do is make a group to voice chat with a few friends?
My understanding is that you have to pay a software license to access the server software, then you have to figure out where and how to host that server yourself.
The client is free.
You can make private voice channels on public ts servers
Does it still look like it’s designed for Windows 98?
I hope so
They have been making advances in their UI design but now it feels like a ‘modern’ late 200’s UI. Would be nice if the UX was properly developed to modern standards so that
neurotypicalnon-techie people could use it.What's next, Ventrilo?
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