Yeah, but it was a poster child for nagware. Edit to be fair so did WinRAR, but that sweet sweet compression and multi-volume splitting made it the best tool for those sailing a jolly roger on those slow, stormy seas...
That's absolutely hilarious. All the times I've either patched Winrar or ignored the 40 day subscription nagging did not matter for their bottom line at all.
All the times I've either patched Winrar or ignored the 40 day subscription nagging did not matter for their bottom line at all.
You individually? No. But RARLAB aren't saps; the "40-day limit"(TM) transforms their software from nagware into something valuable the user is "getting away with". If one or two stray consumers happen to purchase a license based off of that, then excellent. The real kicker, though, is that a culture where everyone uses WinRAR for creating and extracting archives is one where they can push a ton of business licenses – one of the main reasons e.g. Microsoft will often provide Office to universities at steep discounts. By using WinRAR, you act as a brick in the wall of WinRAR's (thankfully waning) hegemony, even just by giving it word-of-mouth or not using competing software.
They want you to feel like you're getting more value than you are out of a product that is near-strictly inferior to free and open-source software with a public domain compression algorithm like 7-Zip. This has been common knowledge for over a decade.
How is 7-Zip superior to Winrar? Every time I tried using 7-Zip it felt a little... weird to use, plus every RAR file I tried to use with it was a pain in the ass. But then again the last time I used it was like... uh, 14 years ago?
That's not directed at you, but RAR archives are so inconvinient to deal with I'm surprised to even see one in the wild. ZIPs may be created and opened by most file managers nowadays, and it's not so much to compress files with modern bandwidht, but to collect multiple files as one package. The RAR formar times are seemingly almost over.
rar and 7-zip are both compression formats as well as applications, so it can help to not get them confused. 7-zip as a compression format is simply more advanced and better than rar, which should be expected as it's a newer format.
As for the software used to interact with the compressed archives, the official 7-zip client isn't as streamlined and as nice as WinRAR, but it is open source and cross platform. And it's not the only option, there are other applications that can be used to open 7-zip files (maybe WinRAR can even do it). Nanazip is a nice option that I'm currently using on Windows. But it's ultimately a personal decision and comes down to whatever you prefer.
Kinda like a rich person saying "You have more money than I do because you only have $100k in debt" to a normal person because they have a $2 million dollar loan for a house, but only have $500k in easily liquidated assets.
Windows got market power because they took the term "Personal Computer" seriously. It was yours, and you could put what you wanted on it. They are now heading down Apples path of proprietry ownership, without Apples flair.
Loving Linux Mint atm. Maybe it'll help me get more adventurous with other distros?
Yes? They don't care it's an infinite money glitch where big corporations pretend that they are in a growth phase and give each other money by using shares that they can print at will.
Maybe ChatGPT should get one of those super annoying nag messages to get you to pay up like WinRAR used to have. That ought to rake in the many billions they need... right?
Setting a pile of money on fire is more profitable then openai. Like you can not physically shovel enough to come close to even a tiny amount of what openai goes though.
Sort of? Google and YT (which was google soon enough) had something called a “business plan” where they grew after they got new business - enough to “justify” growth.
Also, it was easy to see how they could turn a profit and how the pricing would work, which made it like every other business in the world.
With open AI, they set a price based on “feels” and it’s far too low to pay for the computing costs. Then they offered it free to everyone. And they only burn money, there’s not enough money coming in to pay anyone.
Also the fact people in general who aren't right wingers who would be fascinated by flashing lights absolutely hate AI and the way it's being shoved into everything.
The thing is... uh... NO ONE LIKES AI. Regular people don't like when a technology is shoved in their face over and over and over without their consent so they're forced to use it. Google and Youtube were actually compelling things for the consumer and had real world usage. AI has very little actual real world usage because it's a text prediction algorithm that does not do anything that other things today wouldn't be able to.
The only people that like AI are TESCREAL-supporting billionaires who genuinely think LLMs will achieve AGI and thus replace humanity (refer to this video to know how absolutely INSANE those idiots are) and their right wing simps. Pretty much everyone in the creative, educational, and programming field that have actual coding experience hate it because it's literally making people dumber AND taking away jobs from artists AND creating programmers with no actual coding experience.
I agree with most those things. But it's not only tech billionaires and right wing. This here is an echochamber of AI hate (which I'm a part of), and that is fine. A lot of people in a lot of countries are using it for a lot of different things. It doesn't matter how much it works, if it did a lot of products wouldn't be on the market today.
The business strategy and politics is what matters in the end. Even to a bubble.
No, this is not a car vs horse thing. It's more like trying to replace a horse with a car that randomly steers off the road in the opposite direction AND explodes if you sneeze on it.
Yeah? First, it hasn't been that long. Second, I'm not vibing when I do real work. I'm being very targeted and reviewing and preventing slop. When used this way, it's not that different from using Stack Overflow.
They are making money, they just burn a lot more money (tens of billions of usd a year) and they don't even plan on becoming profitable till 2030, which is insane for almost any other non-ai bubble or gov. funded company on the planet.
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Thats because winrar is useful.
It’s is not useful. It is fucking great.
Wait till you learn about 7zip…
7zip didn't exist when winrar was released... im pretty sure anyway...
Yeah there was a time when winrar was basically the best option for zip files it made it easy...
There was Winzip before.
Yeah, but it was a poster child for nagware. Edit to be fair so did WinRAR, but that sweet sweet compression and multi-volume splitting made it the best tool for those sailing a jolly roger on those slow, stormy seas...
Its kind of shit and always has been. Winrar love is pure nostalgia.
Its icon is good I will admit that.
That's absolutely hilarious. All the times I've either patched Winrar or ignored the 40 day subscription nagging did not matter for their bottom line at all.
You individually? No. But RARLAB aren't saps; the "40-day limit"(TM) transforms their software from nagware into something valuable the user is "getting away with". If one or two stray consumers happen to purchase a license based off of that, then excellent. The real kicker, though, is that a culture where everyone uses WinRAR for creating and extracting archives is one where they can push a ton of business licenses – one of the main reasons e.g. Microsoft will often provide Office to universities at steep discounts. By using WinRAR, you act as a brick in the wall of WinRAR's (thankfully waning) hegemony, even just by giving it word-of-mouth or not using competing software.
They want you to feel like you're getting more value than you are out of a product that is near-strictly inferior to free and open-source software with a public domain compression algorithm like 7-Zip. This has been common knowledge for over a decade.
4.83 Million USD is quite a lot.
I wonder if Berlin Berlin is different than Berlin Germany
It's the city of Berlin in the state of Berlin (similar to New York City, NY).
The country Germany consists of 16 states.
I did not know that about Berlin. Thanks for the info
It's called Stadtstaaten (city states) and there are 3 of them (of the 16 states altogether).
!subscribe BerlinFacts
How is 7-Zip superior to Winrar? Every time I tried using 7-Zip it felt a little... weird to use, plus every RAR file I tried to use with it was a pain in the ass. But then again the last time I used it was like... uh, 14 years ago?
It’s faster, has more algorithms, you can choose your compression type. It’s also been standard as the choice for at least a decade now.
https://www.xda-developers.com/reasons-to-use-7-zip-over-winrar/
That's not directed at you, but RAR archives are so inconvinient to deal with I'm surprised to even see one in the wild. ZIPs may be created and opened by most file managers nowadays, and it's not so much to compress files with modern bandwidht, but to collect multiple files as one package. The RAR formar times are seemingly almost over.
rar and 7-zip are both compression formats as well as applications, so it can help to not get them confused. 7-zip as a compression format is simply more advanced and better than rar, which should be expected as it's a newer format.
As for the software used to interact with the compressed archives, the official 7-zip client isn't as streamlined and as nice as WinRAR, but it is open source and cross platform. And it's not the only option, there are other applications that can be used to open 7-zip files (maybe WinRAR can even do it). Nanazip is a nice option that I'm currently using on Windows. But it's ultimately a personal decision and comes down to whatever you prefer.
The poop in my pants makes more money than OpenAI
apparently fecal donors can get 500 bucks per shit
More useful too.
There are lemonade stands making more money than OpenAI. Right now. In January. In sub-freezing weather.
Ice cold lemonade is really good.
and doesn't kill the planet or support fascism!
Kinda like a rich person saying "You have more money than I do because you only have $100k in debt" to a normal person because they have a $2 million dollar loan for a house, but only have $500k in easily liquidated assets.
Ah man that takes me back,….to when windows was somewhat useable.
Windows got market power because they took the term "Personal Computer" seriously. It was yours, and you could put what you wanted on it. They are now heading down Apples path of proprietry ownership, without Apples flair.
Loving Linux Mint atm. Maybe it'll help me get more adventurous with other distros?
Distro hoping is quite fun. Load up a vm or have a test ssd and play around
You probably will. And it’s a lot of fun.
I am also very old
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX_pF03vCSU
Yes? They don't care it's an infinite money glitch where big corporations pretend that they are in a growth phase and give each other money by using shares that they can print at will.
Then I'll hurry up and buy some WinRAR stocks!
Maybe ChatGPT should get one of those super annoying nag messages to get you to pay up like WinRAR used to have. That ought to rake in the many billions they need... right?
Setting a pile of money on fire is more profitable then openai. Like you can not physically shovel enough to come close to even a tiny amount of what openai goes though.
https://www.pcmag.com/news/hackers-still-exploiting-winrar-flaw-fix-released-6-months-ago
I want to know what unprofitable businesses are still more profitable than WinRAR.
Absolutely brutal. I love it.
Are winrar memes the champion as far as long-lived memes? I think it might be the longest running internet meme I can think of.
profitable for whom?
All humans, whether homeless or famined African, are more profitable than Open AI
I want that WinRAR bag
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It costs vastly more money to run OpenAI than it does any gross income they're receiving.
It was the same for google and youtube for a long time.
They need to get people/businesses addicted to it first.
Edit: Does this comment make it seem like I like AI? Am I wrong about Google and YT's business strategy?
Sort of? Google and YT (which was google soon enough) had something called a “business plan” where they grew after they got new business - enough to “justify” growth.
Also, it was easy to see how they could turn a profit and how the pricing would work, which made it like every other business in the world.
With open AI, they set a price based on “feels” and it’s far too low to pay for the computing costs. Then they offered it free to everyone. And they only burn money, there’s not enough money coming in to pay anyone.
Also the fact people in general who aren't right wingers who would be fascinated by flashing lights absolutely hate AI and the way it's being shoved into everything.
we have a whole push about it at work. i just uninstalled copilot anyway. it feels like cheating (i don't fucking care, fuck ai)
Not even like cheating - it's like cheating but half of the answers are wrong.
The thing is... uh... NO ONE LIKES AI. Regular people don't like when a technology is shoved in their face over and over and over without their consent so they're forced to use it. Google and Youtube were actually compelling things for the consumer and had real world usage. AI has very little actual real world usage because it's a text prediction algorithm that does not do anything that other things today wouldn't be able to.
The only people that like AI are TESCREAL-supporting billionaires who genuinely think LLMs will achieve AGI and thus replace humanity (refer to this video to know how absolutely INSANE those idiots are) and their right wing simps. Pretty much everyone in the creative, educational, and programming field that have actual coding experience hate it because it's literally making people dumber AND taking away jobs from artists AND creating programmers with no actual coding experience.
I agree with most those things. But it's not only tech billionaires and right wing. This here is an echochamber of AI hate (which I'm a part of), and that is fine. A lot of people in a lot of countries are using it for a lot of different things. It doesn't matter how much it works, if it did a lot of products wouldn't be on the market today.
The business strategy and politics is what matters in the end. Even to a bubble.
AI is absolutely useful. Speaking as a developer, it has definitely changed my profession.
This is more like the dotcom bubble. There's a seed of truth in there, but it's buried in overhype, nonsense, and chaff.
Many developers do not use any "AI" and continue to write code by hand.
Many drivers refuse cars and still use horse and buggy.
No, this is not a car vs horse thing. It's more like trying to replace a horse with a car that randomly steers off the road in the opposite direction AND explodes if you sneeze on it.
I'm so surprised, because I've never heard anyone ever use that analogy before ever. 🙃
Can you program without any LLM now, tho?
Yeah? First, it hasn't been that long. Second, I'm not vibing when I do real work. I'm being very targeted and reviewing and preventing slop. When used this way, it's not that different from using Stack Overflow.
https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/big-tech/openai-could-reportedly-run-out-of-cash-by-mid-2027-nyt-analyst-paints-grim-picture-after-examining-companys-finances
There’s this report circling around indicating that OpenAI is about to run out of money. AI is not profitable, and it’s uncertain it ever will be.
It's a ball and cup game. IIRC Nvidia is investing a bunch in Open AI, but Open AI is their biggest customer kind of idea.
If you have the time (an hour to read) or interest, Ed Zitron explains it fairly well.
They are making money, they just burn a lot more money (tens of billions of usd a year) and they don't even plan on becoming profitable till 2030, which is insane for almost any other non-ai bubble or gov. funded company on the planet.
You praise the epitome of all the negatives with capitalisn that is closed source sodtware to put down one of the most important Firms on the planet?
Pure self own.