The people behind him are making these plans. Trump only interests are money or things that look rich, which is why it's so easy to believe he wanted a ballroom. These Holocaust 2.0 steps that are happening are likely the work of Stephen Miller and Peter Thiel.
The whole point of the government shutdown was to start riots. The Republicans wanted to take healthcare from millions. The Democrats stopped them, but the cost was SNAP (food stamps) benefits. The Republicans were willing to starve their voting base to push the healthcare cuts — either would likely result in riots. Now it's literally attacking Americans. The goal is to push martial law and suspend elections. That is the whole point.
Don't worry. The Great Leader will speak on Foxnews saying that he had to remove the food stamps because of any racist shit and they will use those firearms to hunt non-whites as if they were paid for it.
I mean, a lot of people who are heavily armed, prior to 2020, used the historical justification of the Second Amendment to justify being heavily armed. That a well-regulated militia (guys who know how to handle guns, essentially) was necessary to protect the country from tyranny. Only, a lot of these guys (who voted red and who didn't vote blue) sat back and let tyranny take over. They either wanted it to happen, or they had the opportunity to vote against it and chose not to.
So I gotta ask of guys like that: what does it matter they're armed? At this point they're all just cosplaying. Because they had the opportunity to do what their forefathers did and they did fuck-all about it.
And with a minimum of three more years of this, they will eventually get what they want. There is no way that this administration ends without the US military acting against domestic Americans, at some point. It is going to happen.
As much as I'm tempted to play the accellerationist and demand that we give them what they're asking for, I know that we can't rip off the bandaid like that. Americans are not yet mentally prepared to take up arms against their government. The government will strike first, after they exhaust all attempts to get the people to make the first move. Trump needs martial law or some equivalent immunity before his time in the Oval Office is up.
Our best bet might be that Trump dies of a blood clot, Vance is too unlikable to hold the tenuous fascist truces together, and the momentum falls apart.
They already have. They executed a woman on the streets because she saw too much, or they thought she did. She didn't do anything wrong, but they decided that she needed to die rather than be allowed to leave peacefully, as she was trying to do. She was a white woman, not an immigrant. (She was also gay, but they probably didn't know that at the time.) And they still executed her right then and there on the spot.
Side note: is your avatar the playable character from Noita?
Wasn't sure if this was just a population thing, so:
State | population | Undocumented est | % undocumented
TX | 31M | 2.0 M | 6.4%
FL | 23M | 1.2 M | 5.2%
IL | 13M | 0.59 M | 4.5%
MN | 5.8M | 100 k | 1.7%
CA | 39M | 2.9 M | 7.4%
If 5-ish% of most state populations are undocumented, doesn't that make it even more bizarre to go into Minnesota, where they don't even have half the national average?
I'm not talking about ICE. I'm talking about how Florida and Texas have more. It's the same as showing a map of a statistic and it's basically just a population map.
ICE being in Minnesota is because Donny got his feelings hurt.
No it's not a population thing because MN's percentage is substantially lower. It's not a population map because MN's percentage is substantially lower. That's what the original comment meant. You have this all twisted up somehow so I'm just gonna leave it here.
The original comment says "this". The original post mentions both TX and FL immigrant population as well as MN.
"This" could be interpreted two different ways in relation to the original comment. I took it to mean that the volume of immigrants per state in relation to total population of the original mentioned FL and TX.
The percentage doesn't matter. The percentage count be .001% or it could be 30% and they'd still go after someone that hurt Don's feelings.
ICE is obviously a secret police force. This was already clear when the regime (with extensive support from the Democrats btw) approved a budget for this "agency" that exceeds the military spending of medium-sized countries.
What is so difficult to understand about this? The economic elite in the US, which has been ruling the country de facto for ages, now wants to transition to a more Russian-style system (open autocracy with corresponding repressive measures), and ICE is ideally suited to make undesirable dissidents disappear.
I think everyone has been aware of this since around February 2025, except apparently the US citizens, who, despite all the absurdity, still cling to the illusion that the US is a constitutional state or even a democracy - which has not been the case for at least 30 years.
The sad part of the 🍊 💩 is that he now accepts that he has conquered the US and his new target is controlling the world! Just look at the chaos level that he is generating on the world stage!
That didn't vote for Trump and will be more likely to resist the invasion. Florida and Texas would invite them into their homes and throw block parties for ICE. They want the resistence.
They are swarming Florida and Texas. And with comparatively much more cooperation/less protest, because they are more popular there. The white house even made a post bragging about how rent was down in Texas.
Undocumented just means an immigrant who is likely here illegally. There are ways to determine the amount of people currently living/residing in a city without them having officially registered with the government (e.g. census surveys historically never cared if a person was illegal or not, they only cared about counting people).
There’re estimates, but since we want to play coy and side with fascist dictators who are using special military forces against their own people for not voting for them:
If the problem is people crossing the southern border, why is ICE in the most northern states?
A lot of them are documented, hence the targeted deportations of some people (they've also done plenty of just untargeted "papers please" harassment of anyone who doesn't look white enough, so not actually like their lie ). They just don't have a citizenship or a visa.
They have just arrived in my city as of today, the largest in the state with a population of 65,000. Hell the entire state population is only 1.3 million.
I don't think OP or anyone here wants ICE to go after the undocumented people anywhere, it's just pointing out the true intent of ICE to the people who think otherwise.
That said, if it's gonna happen at all I would prefer it happen in red states so they see it with their own eyes and feel the impact more.
"erhm, why is the fascist police targeting us, agreeable white liberals? shouldn’t they be targeting those undocumented immigrants, who live in red states? whom they’re definitely not already attacking, alligator alcatraz, what’s that? where was it? minnesota, right?"
In the case of Minnesota, I think it's more about the fraud. But I'm not really sure they thought it out, because the distraction actually serves Walz more than hurts him.
The admin used "fraud" as a justification every time the national guard or ICE was deployed to a state that didn't want them. Unless you have something more specific in mind with verifiable and corroborated sources, claiming fraud is just doing their work for them.
Oh well, there is verifiable fraud and lots of it. If you think otherwise then you arent paying attention or you are intentionally turning a blind eye.
Your response to being asked to cite your sources is to double down on not providing any whatsoever, and then following up with an ad hominem?
Yeah, this ain't worth my time. The point of providing sources isn't just to prevent the spread of disinformation, but to correct misinformation. If your specific source later turned out to be incorrect or misinterpreted, anybody could point that out and help everybody be better informed. That is especially important when making an assertion on something that already has active disinformation campaigns surrounding it.
If you want to contribute positively to public discourse, you need a better strategy for fulfilling your burden of proof than the modern equivalent of "well, how about you prove God doesn't exist".
If someone is unaware of a scandal that has been all over the news for years, and then subsequent scandals, indictments, convictions, and very plausible evidence of more fraud, then it's a sea lion.
The fraud!? The investigation took place under Biden's DOJ and was handed off to Trump. Local authorities had been investigating it before Biden. It is not new at all.
The biggest fraud was perpetrated by a white women who used Somalis who come from a very corrupt area already. She took advantage of them because they didn't really know better.
Trump and company are openly committing tens of billions of dollars of fraud as we speak. It is not about the fraud unless it is merely a distraction. This administration played hard it would uncover fraud, but the truth is it is committing fraud.
You are correct, according to government data for 2023 the Florida and Texas numbers here are a little low. Additionally, the estimate for Illinois is also a little high.
If you look at the government estimates, the point of the posting only becomes more true
Looking into it the migration policy institute which is what is cited as the bottom seems to use census data so the numbers would ostensibly be from 2020. So that seems to be why the numbers seem off?
Donald trump is not intelligent enough to create this plan. Let’s not forget he is only the figurehead for an entire movement.
Let's also not forget that, unlike Trump, the powers behind the throne don't get SS protection.
Steven Miller moved his family into military housing
But they have way better private security don't they?
The people behind him are making these plans. Trump only interests are money or things that look rich, which is why it's so easy to believe he wanted a ballroom. These Holocaust 2.0 steps that are happening are likely the work of Stephen Miller and Peter Thiel.
And that movement is steered by people who have been obsessively planning for this their entire adult lives.
We know. But more people should.
The whole point of the government shutdown was to start riots. The Republicans wanted to take healthcare from millions. The Democrats stopped them, but the cost was SNAP (food stamps) benefits. The Republicans were willing to starve their voting base to push the healthcare cuts — either would likely result in riots. Now it's literally attacking Americans. The goal is to push martial law and suspend elections. That is the whole point.
I live in a hard red area and a huge number of families here depend on SNAP and food stamps. They are also heavily armed.
Don't worry. The Great Leader will speak on Foxnews saying that he had to remove the food stamps because of any racist shit and they will use those firearms to hunt non-whites as if they were paid for it.
Obama did it!
Thanks Biden!
If you're friendly with any of them, make sure that when push comes to shove they're robbing the local Walmart and not their neighbors.
So?
I mean, a lot of people who are heavily armed, prior to 2020, used the historical justification of the Second Amendment to justify being heavily armed. That a well-regulated militia (guys who know how to handle guns, essentially) was necessary to protect the country from tyranny. Only, a lot of these guys (who voted red and who didn't vote blue) sat back and let tyranny take over. They either wanted it to happen, or they had the opportunity to vote against it and chose not to.
So I gotta ask of guys like that: what does it matter they're armed? At this point they're all just cosplaying. Because they had the opportunity to do what their forefathers did and they did fuck-all about it.
And with a minimum of three more years of this, they will eventually get what they want. There is no way that this administration ends without the US military acting against domestic Americans, at some point. It is going to happen.
As much as I'm tempted to play the accellerationist and demand that we give them what they're asking for, I know that we can't rip off the bandaid like that. Americans are not yet mentally prepared to take up arms against their government. The government will strike first, after they exhaust all attempts to get the people to make the first move. Trump needs martial law or some equivalent immunity before his time in the Oval Office is up.
Our best bet might be that Trump dies of a blood clot, Vance is too unlikable to hold the tenuous fascist truces together, and the momentum falls apart.
They already have. They executed a woman on the streets because she saw too much, or they thought she did. She didn't do anything wrong, but they decided that she needed to die rather than be allowed to leave peacefully, as she was trying to do. She was a white woman, not an immigrant. (She was also gay, but they probably didn't know that at the time.) And they still executed her right then and there on the spot.
Side note: is your avatar the playable character from Noita?
Yeah lol, I made the Noita Emotes mod and it's from that (Fortnite dance).
Tim Walz hurt his feelings during the election. Trump couldn't even find Minnesota on a map he's just unbelievably fragile and petty
Wasn't sure if this was just a population thing, so:
It basically is. California has the most, then texas, then Florida. All around the same percentage.
If 5-ish% of most state populations are undocumented, doesn't that make it even more bizarre to go into Minnesota, where they don't even have half the national average?
Bizarre yet utterly predictable, seeing as it's not actually about immigration.
MN has a substantially lower percentage, so not a population thing.
I'm not talking about ICE. I'm talking about how Florida and Texas have more. It's the same as showing a map of a statistic and it's basically just a population map.
ICE being in Minnesota is because Donny got his feelings hurt.
No it's not a population thing because MN's percentage is substantially lower. It's not a population map because MN's percentage is substantially lower. That's what the original comment meant. You have this all twisted up somehow so I'm just gonna leave it here.
The original comment says "this". The original post mentions both TX and FL immigrant population as well as MN.
"This" could be interpreted two different ways in relation to the original comment. I took it to mean that the volume of immigrants per state in relation to total population of the original mentioned FL and TX.
The percentage doesn't matter. The percentage count be .001% or it could be 30% and they'd still go after someone that hurt Don's feelings.
Even my hard red family member told me they want to incite violence. I couldn't tell if he thought it was good or bad though.
ICE is obviously a secret police force. This was already clear when the regime (with extensive support from the Democrats btw) approved a budget for this "agency" that exceeds the military spending of medium-sized countries.
What is so difficult to understand about this? The economic elite in the US, which has been ruling the country de facto for ages, now wants to transition to a more Russian-style system (open autocracy with corresponding repressive measures), and ICE is ideally suited to make undesirable dissidents disappear.
I think everyone has been aware of this since around February 2025, except apparently the US citizens, who, despite all the absurdity, still cling to the illusion that the US is a constitutional state or even a democracy - which has not been the case for at least 30 years.
Yep. And it is this delusion that allows US citizens to be subjugated so completely to Putin's 84th subject.
So long as they continue to believe it, they’ll allow ICE to abduct anyone they want in their Blue “state.”
I hate to burst your bubble, but ICE is all over both Florida & Texas, your corporate news media simply isn't reporting it.
Probably because people there are mostly "okay with it". If there were big protests going on in Houston or Jacksonville, we'd hear about it.
Also the leadership of those states is aligned with the federal government, it's a lot less safe to be a protestor down there.
Yeah they were at first, but the media has already normalized to it.
There are way more agents in Minnisota right now.
I did some math.
Florida population: 23M
Florida undocumented/capita: 1 in 19
Minnesota population: 5.8M
Minnesota undocumented/capita: 1 in 58
@DougHolland ABSO-FRIGGIN-LUTELY!
The sad part of the 🍊 💩 is that he now accepts that he has conquered the US and his new target is controlling the world! Just look at the chaos level that he is generating on the world stage!
Clear as day.
That didn't vote for Trump and will be more likely to resist the invasion. Florida and Texas would invite them into their homes and throw block parties for ICE. They want the resistence.
This is middle school level retaliation. Conservatives are immature turds.
Maybe the Republican states should try leftist solutions for solving illegal immigration.
The cruelty is the point
I'm not disputing the facts here, but don't think that immigrants in Texas are going unharassed.
They are swarming Florida and Texas. And with comparatively much more cooperation/less protest, because they are more popular there. The white house even made a post bragging about how rent was down in Texas.
No comparison to the size of the feds' invasion in Minnesota.
"There are X undocumented"
Are they documented or undocumented, I don't follow.
Undocumented just means an immigrant who is likely here illegally. There are ways to determine the amount of people currently living/residing in a city without them having officially registered with the government (e.g. census surveys historically never cared if a person was illegal or not, they only cared about counting people).
There’re estimates, but since we want to play coy and side with fascist dictators who are using special military forces against their own people for not voting for them:
If the problem is people crossing the southern border, why is ICE in the most northern states?
Ok, now argue the actual point.
Look, buddy: pedantry isn't the exclusive domain of the enemy.
All those fentanyl laden moose crossing the border.
Is that why I can’t stop eating Moose Tracks? Shiiiiiittttt
They are undocumented, that's why it's an estimate.
Honestly not sure if serious or a joke, but I've seen things today that make me believe anything.
A lot of them are documented, hence the targeted deportations of some people (they've also done plenty of just untargeted "papers please" harassment of anyone who doesn't look white enough, so not actually like their lie ). They just don't have a citizenship or a visa.
Some aren't documented, some are.
You just make a list of all the documented ones and then circle the ones that are not on the list.
Arm all Minnesotans and Illinoisians
Don't forget about Maine, which ICE is gearing up for next, probably because Governor Mills sticking up against Trump.
Not sure how accurate this is, but Maine has a whooping 5,000
They have just arrived in my city as of today, the largest in the state with a population of 65,000. Hell the entire state population is only 1.3 million.
@DougHolland exactly...its intimidation...
Listen, facts and math aren't their strengths.
I was in Austin, TX not long ago, and they were swarming the whole city. I think people just made less of a deal about it there.
Well, they're not going after the Florida immigrants. Because the Bratvas are fucking insane, and they will start a war with ICE.
let's not point them at even more vulnerable people than they're already brutalizing.
Yeah nobody tell ICE about the states they're deliberately not targeting
nobody should justify oppression anywhere
I don't think OP or anyone here wants ICE to go after the undocumented people anywhere, it's just pointing out the true intent of ICE to the people who think otherwise.
That said, if it's gonna happen at all I would prefer it happen in red states so they see it with their own eyes and feel the impact more.
This argument won't work on the people you're trying to target.
"Well, duh. Most of the illegals have made homes in the US closest to their countries of origin"
holy shit, yikes
do y’all hear yourselves sometimes???
"erhm, why is the fascist police targeting us, agreeable white liberals? shouldn’t they be targeting those undocumented immigrants, who live in red states? whom they’re definitely not already attacking, alligator alcatraz, what’s that? where was it? minnesota, right?"
Yeah that's not what this post is saying at all. Did you even read the entire thing or did you just stop after the numbers.
In the case of Minnesota, I think it's more about the fraud. But I'm not really sure they thought it out, because the distraction actually serves Walz more than hurts him.
[Citation Needed]
The admin used "fraud" as a justification every time the national guard or ICE was deployed to a state that didn't want them. Unless you have something more specific in mind with verifiable and corroborated sources, claiming fraud is just doing their work for them.
Oh well, there is verifiable fraud and lots of it. If you think otherwise then you arent paying attention or you are intentionally turning a blind eye.
Your response to being asked to cite your sources is to double down on not providing any whatsoever, and then following up with an ad hominem?
Yeah, this ain't worth my time. The point of providing sources isn't just to prevent the spread of disinformation, but to correct misinformation. If your specific source later turned out to be incorrect or misinterpreted, anybody could point that out and help everybody be better informed. That is especially important when making an assertion on something that already has active disinformation campaigns surrounding it.
If you want to contribute positively to public discourse, you need a better strategy for fulfilling your burden of proof than the modern equivalent of "well, how about you prove God doesn't exist".
If someone is unaware of a scandal that has been all over the news for years, and then subsequent scandals, indictments, convictions, and very plausible evidence of more fraud, then it's a sea lion.
The fraud!? The investigation took place under Biden's DOJ and was handed off to Trump. Local authorities had been investigating it before Biden. It is not new at all.
The biggest fraud was perpetrated by a white women who used Somalis who come from a very corrupt area already. She took advantage of them because they didn't really know better.
Trump and company are openly committing tens of billions of dollars of fraud as we speak. It is not about the fraud unless it is merely a distraction. This administration played hard it would uncover fraud, but the truth is it is committing fraud.
We should be able to talk about the fraud without bringing race or culture into it, but you shouldn't get a pass for that reason either.
Agreed, but we will have to talk about it as long as conservatives use race and origin as a convenient scapegoat for crime.
Yes let me blindly believe numbers with no source.
You are correct, according to government data for 2023 the Florida and Texas numbers here are a little low. Additionally, the estimate for Illinois is also a little high. If you look at the government estimates, the point of the posting only becomes more true
Looking into it the migration policy institute which is what is cited as the bottom seems to use census data so the numbers would ostensibly be from 2020. So that seems to be why the numbers seem off?
Unauthorized Immigrants by Country/Region, Top States and Counties of Residence, 2023
To be fair this was buried one click under the “data” tab on the main menu of the website listed on the image.
I can't force you to read the words or follow the URL provided.
It's happening in Minnesota because Minnesota doesn't have any law enforcement support like the other states do.
Other than the source cited in the image you mean?