Donald Trump says eight European countries(Denmark, Norway, Sweden, France, Germany, The United Kingdom, The Netherlands, and Finland) face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland
Starting on February 1st, 2026, all of the above mentioned Countries (Denmark, Norway, Sweden, France, Germany, The United Kingdom, The Netherlands, and Finland), will be charged a 10% Tariff on any and all goods sent to the United States of America. On June 1st, 2026, the Tariff will be increased to 25%. This Tariff will be due and payable until such time as a Deal is reached for the Complete and Total purchase of Greenland.
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So US Americans have to pay a tax to punish them ?
Yes. Abusers can't go after stronger opponents so they hurt those without the power to harm him. It's basically his entire political strategy at this point.
I'd call it malice towards his constituents, but I'm still not convinced he actually understands how tariffs work.
I mean... They might somewhat hurt us, too.
Say we send product X and charge $10 and another country`s product charges $10.50. When there's a 10% tax, we now need to charge $11 and might lose sales. But the question is whether 10% is enough of a deterrent (and whether there are viable alternatives from other countries for the US)
All true, but you know: The US puts tariffs on everyone, everyone else "only" has to deal with the US. We even just made a new trade deal with half of South America. That has to be worth something, if we have to cut off the US?! Well, in practice it is now complicated because our politicians are a bit slow to recognize that the US might not be the strong partner anymore, that we had for the last 80 years. But even they will get there eventually, I hope
I agree, but again, I think you've put far more thought into it than he has.
Dude, he convinced half our country that tariffs were going to make us all wealthy despite the fact that anybody with a 5th grade education can look up the definition of a tariff and know better.
Of fucking course he is.
the problem is that the number of americans with a fifth grade education or higher is a minority.
Couldn't agree more. We need education to be accessible.
But... Republicans have worked so hard over decades to erode education to the point it benefits them... and you want to take that away? Maybe we should tariff YOU!
You are correct that was cowardly of me. I apologize.
It's high time you realise you are your government's hostages.
Trump doesn't honor any agreement he signs, why even bother with trade agreements with USA anymore.
China atleast is as consistent as you could ever ask for. If both nations attack their own citizens and limit free speech then why even bother with America anymore. I would trust China far more than America currently.
That's a bad take IMO, North Korea can be as stable as you want, it's not a country I'd "trust".
But I see why we'll continue commerce with china.
North Korea is not stable as its economy relies on USSR and later China
They didn't say NK was stable, they said no matter how stable it still wouldn't be a trustworthy partner.
Well in the short term yes. Americans pay the tariifs , yet it does hurt the World Economy and European exports too.
In the medium/ long run smart people decouple economically, and take their business elsewhere. Like EU w / Canada, Australia, Mercosur, Asia, Japan etc. And that's when it will really hurt the USA.
It hurts EU exports only to the extent where the US can subsidize EU imports with something else. For example you can only get Ozempic from Denmark so that's just a 10% tax on Ozempic because it's going to be imported regardless.
That would be a good opportunity to throw the EU-US trade deal negotiated last year into the dustbin, since Trump has already violated it with the tariffs and no one in the EU was happy with it anyway. They only accepted it at the time because they were afraid of the U.S. ceasing to support Ukraine otherwise. Well, the U.S. doesn't support Ukraine anymore anyway.
These countries should wear this badge with honour.
According to some rumours , could be that the European Parliament won't rectify the EU-USA Trade deal for now, if there is sufficient momentum (i.e outrage). Wondering how that's developing.
It's time for the EU to drop the anti-circumvention laws pushed onto them (and other countries) through trade deals long ago. It'll enable a true right to repair, as well as resilience against foreign influence by being able to inspect and replace firmware and software.
While they're at it, maybe reduce copyright after death too.
yeah lets cut all tie to this bully state. It's overdue anyway.
I have something of a game going on where every time the US peeves me off, I delete something that profits them.
Trump threatens Greenland? I delete Deviantart
Trump threatens Canada? I delete Reddit
The ICE shooting? I delete Instagram
After hearing about this I just deleted Brave Mobile and switched to Vivaldi. If it stays this consistent I'm going to have to save up for an Ubuntu Touch phone.
New EU deal with China coming in 3... 2... 1...
I think we all should start treating the USA as russia and accept the fate of the world. China doesn't look that bad now. At least they keep their genocides inside their border.
For the next 10 seconds before they invade taiwan
@balsoft @pixeltree
Xi could *substantially* improve his global reputation if he opted for a cooperative approach to relations with #Taiwan. They have been at loggerheads for decades because their govt systems & economies have been very different, but it's China that is now evolving closer to Taiwan's market-economy model. But they could be more inspired in establishing a more cooperative political model.
Either way, it is for the Taiwanese to choose their destiny.
I think it's almost verbatim what Xi is saying - cooperate, build more and more economic and cultural ties, wait for the decline of capitalism and the people of Taiwan will want to reunite with mainland eventually. They are already really close socially, culturally and ethnically (most Taiwanese are Han), the only thing separating them is politics.
@balsoft
He hasn't though. Either verbatim or not. He's been sabre-rattling & playing war games around Taiwan.
When has he actually approached the Taiwan govt with any respectable offer of long-term cooperation?
Under more reasonable Taiwanese rule there was a lot of goodwill and cooperation going both ways (e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_Cooperation_Framework_Agreement, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-Strait_Service_Trade_Agreement etc).
Under new, even more pro-imperialist government, there doesn't seem to be much room for cooperation when Taiwan repeatedly rejects attempts at cooperation and beefs up their military with american weapons. I agree that Xi could be more accepting and cooperative, but it's not primarily his fault.
I hate this timeline where I see China better option than US.
China hasn't been directly involved in anything even resembling a genocide since the death of chairman mao at least. There are human rights abuses and questionable decisions (such as not sufficiently opposing the ongoing gaza genocide) but nothing compared to the horrors on earth supported by US and some european countries right fucking now.
I don't know any EU countries harvesting organs from a whole ethnic group while simultaneously enslaving them.
I don't know of China doing that either, apart from made-up stories from some guys, directly affiliated with the US government, who weren't even there. Seriously, try to look up a source for your claims that isn't eventually attributed to "Ethan Gutmann said...". Uighurs do have their rights systematically abused and face unfair persecution as an overreaction to terrorism. This fucking sucks, but it's clearly not a genocide and nothing like what you're describing. Even English Wikipedia, which historically is biased towards US propaganda because it is sourced from western media, has stopped classifying it as a genocide.
Meanwhile Germany is sending weapons and diplomatic support to a literal genocidal apartheid state, which has been bombing civilian infrastructure and shooting children for fun since the founding, with at least 100k dead (at least 27k of them children) just in the last 3 years; France & UK are still empires which hold land overseas and continue doing "soft" - cultural & economic - imperialism in their sphere of influence; and all western quality of life improvements are sustained on exploitation of cheap unregulated labor from many global south countries, enforced by the US invading and/or overthrowing everyone who tries to stop it.
Some of what China is doing domestically sucks. The Uighur thing is bad, LGBT rights are not enshrined into law and instead exist in a legal vacuum, the internet censorship is shit, the wealth inequality is growing, the one-child policy was a bad idea which led to a femicide and creation of "second-class citizens", there are still regions where the rural population lives in slums (the last two are being slowly addressed though).
But it's not even close to the current level of suffering caused by western imperialism.
China is benefiting greatly from the old orange felon's blunders.
Not sure we care anymore, since the free trade agreement between EU and Mercosur was signed today. We don’t really need to trade with the US anymore. South America provides a huge export market for our products, and they supply better quality agricultural imports than the US can anyway.
It's not about buyin, but about selling
This is just a small start of his ramblings and man, he's taking some good drugs there because how hard do you have to be tripping balls to even remotely believe any of that shit.
Literally every word is a lie there and it just gets worse
I'm reasonably confident that neither Russia nor China have any interest in Greenland. Primarily because they clearly don't. They could have attacked Greenland at any point in the last 60 years they haven't.
China is primarily interested in the Middle East, India, and Africa and Russia is not currently in a state to be threatening anyone else, least of all NATO.
Let's start dumping US debt.
These are the ramblings of a lunatic.
Why is it that the US must have Greenland if China and Russia are eyeing it? It's in NATO care right now. If the US would have it, it would be in NATO care. If China and/or Russia came for it, surely the NATO countries (including Greenland, Denmark, or any of the other countries currently positioned there) wouldn't stop the US from helping out to defend it. What's the real point in transferring ownership? It's just a load of shit you can smell from far away.
A threat to world peace lol. A threat to the survival of our planet lol.
Sure Trumpey boy. Keep talking out of the holes in your frontotemporal dementia.
Honestly the US should be kicked out of NATO, and banned from rejoining unless they agree to pay the bloc every time they threaten to invade their allies or something.
That would indeed seem appropriate.
Surely it would/should be against the rules of NATO for a member to attack one of the other members. I feel like that's the entire fucking point of the organization.
Man, I hope we use this opportunity to build new bridges to other countries!
Why would they give a shit that Trump is going to raise taxes on Americans again?
It will really hurt some industries. For example film & TV production will be badly hit.
What exactly does Europe sell to USA that they NEED to sell for the film & tv production to happen?
The production is the sale.
I don't get it, it's not like companies will stop buying rights for good movies/tv shows because there's tariffs on them, and they're not buying bad content anyways. Movie tickets and streaming subscriptions will just become more expensive for US customers to compensate and that's that, the same thing that happened to every other thing tariffs were applied to.
Talking about production, not distribution or exhibition. US studios will have little incentive to produce in Britain if that film then becomes subject to tariffs.
The production? There are very few European companies making films in the US, and this would encourage them to film in Europe, so still not sure how that is bad for Europe.
US companies making films in EU are not importing anything, so tariffs don't apply to them, and since it's a US company they even hold the rights for the produced work so it doesn't apply to that either.
What am I missing?
You have it the wrong way around. US companies producing in Europe are importing the film to the US.
EU companies producing in the US are importing to EU.
More incentive to local film industry?
American movies are all about CGI and explosions, mostly, nowadays. I'll take a low budged film with a good story and acting any day.
Local films are smaller, so don’t spend as much. More importantly, every hotel room, meal, plank of wood, hour of CG artist time, equipment rental, stage rental, truck, and unit of electricity is an export when foreign entities are paying the bills. Its great for the health of the economy.
There’s no way to replace the billions that would be lost, and hundreds of thousands of jobs will be lost.
@qyron @ohulancutash
I believe that partly explains how the US is mutating into a tyranny of roving street gangs. They all see themselves in those violent scenarios.
Apparently a lot of hard to replace stuff. Just after the recent trade agreement, which favours the US, a study came out that the US would do much worse if tariffs hampered trade the EU.
Phew. I'm glad Trump doesn't remember my country exists.
LOL
I imagine Trump can't tell when Russia starts past Germany and doesn't want to anger daddy Putin, so anything east is ok to him.
(I base this on Bethesda thinking everyone east of Germany speaks Russian by default, based on FNV PCR)
What the fuck is this guy smoking??
If he was so concerned about safety and Russian or Chinese attacks, he could just.. you know.. reinforce the Greenlandic NATO bases. They're literally allies. I'm so sick of this clown show.
He isn't even hiding this.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jan/17/greenland-crisis-europe-needs-trump-but-it-also-needs-to-stand-up-to-him
They should be scared. Sled dogs are working dogs, not pets. They are not to be messed with. They will defend themselves, the sled, the cargo and the driver.
I don't know how true this is, but I heard from a military guy that when NATO do blue and red teams, the US gets it's arse kicked every time by the European teams.
Apparently it's because the US military are always encouraged to follow orders and not think for themselves. Basically the exact opposite to the way that they are betrayed in Hollywood. They even get trained to creeply talk about themselves in the third person.
Portrayed, my good friend, not betrayed.
And please do explain more about the part they are trained to speak on the third person.
Why? How?
I imagine they do when training in Norway at least, but the whole point of those exercises is to make them better at dealing with winter warfare. The Norwegians already know how to dress for the cold, so it's not exactly an even pairing. Not sure the results would be the same if they did the same exercise in Texas heat.
https://news.sky.com/story/royal-marines-commandos-force-us-marine-corps-troops-to-surrender-in-training-exercise-12458823
Why the hell is Canada not on that list.
We made a deal with China. They know the more they push the more we'll shift.
They are saving it for CUSMA "renegotiations" this year. They can play hardball all they want. Our economies are so integrated they are punching themselves in the face to show us how tough they are.
The good news, is that we will deintegrate our economies and supply chains, the bad news is it won't happen overnight.
I think it is a great mistake for anyone in the comments to start being China apologists just because Trump is acting like a retard.
I think you're all severely underestimating the shit China does. Trumps America isn't anywhere close to being as fucked up as China is, and I say this as a Dane who is currently dealing with the severe hatred and feelings of betrayal towards our former allies.
Let's not start simping for China because America sucks. Let's not do that. I only have a surface level understanding of what goes on in China, and that is still enough for me to say with confidence that current day America is still less of a hell hole by comparison.
I wpuld rather focus the energy in Europe to make us stronger over time so that we can be our own super power and not have to lean on the other trash bin super powers out there.
It won't happen over night and might not even happen in my lifetime, but if we can work toward that goal, I would be happy. We have survived worse.
China is in no way an appropriate strategic, economic or military partner. Its is on the other side of the planet, it has only its own best interests in mind to make itself into a regional superpower that does EXACTLY what Trump and Putin does. Its economic system is the polar opposite of Europe, open and free market vs protectionist and state-controlled market). Militarily it is growing fast but is still highly regional with limited power projection (i.e. cannot help us).
Wanting to partner with China against US makes no sense, they are the primary financier of Russia with the deliberate intent on weakening Europe and distract us from competing with them globally. Not to mention that America isn't our enemy, but Trump and his regime specifically, the vast (75%) majority of US is against the Greenland grab.
I agree with everything you say, but I still have to treat America as my enemy as long as they are run by lunatics. Nothing against normal everyday Americans, but it doesn’t help me any to know that they don’t want this to happen if it in fact ends up happening anyway. I’d like for all of this to be a bluff and trump is just being a retard as always, trying to force us to give him mining rights to Greenland…. Which he already kinda had but whatever. Problem is, you just can’t trust anything this monster does and when he has all the power of the US nation, I just can’t sit here and be like murica isn’t my enemy, it’s just trump. Well, trump is using murica to potentially start a war with my country so…
But America is still not as bad as China. People are terrifyingly ignorant about China in this comment section. Are they all Hasanabi fans, or what? 😆
What exactly makes China worse than the US?
If you have to ask, then it is time to read up on some basic history. Key words to use:
Mao
Tiananem square
Xinjiang internment camps
The one child policy, it’s immediate consequences and current day consequences.
Human trafficking, sex trafficking, abductions and illegal adoptions
Women’s rights in China
Gay rights in China. Specifically the banning and censorship of apps like grinder and erasure of "effeminate men" in media
China during Covid
China human rights violations
China freedom of speech
Maybe some of these will give you a head start.
Tiananmen Square was not simply a violent escalation of the Chinese state, so not sure if I'd wanna count that, and the "Xianjang Internment camps" still seem like made up bullshit by Adrian Zenz and the likes. But I didn't simply ask what makes China bad, because I'm well aware of that, I asked what makes it worse than the US. Key words here:
Literally every president the US ever had in the past decades
War for almost the entire existence of the country
ICE and their camps
Pretty much daily school shootings and overall gun culture for that matter
Women's rights in the US
Police violence
Horrible healthcare system causing thousands of deaths every year
Increasingly limited LGBTQ rights
War on Drugs
War on Terror
Support of or direct involvement in multiple genocides
Massive surveillance network, not just in the US, but globally
Hundreds of military bases all across the world
Guantanamo Bay
Human rights violations
Preventing people in certain countries from accessing certain much needed medications and extortion of pharmaceutical companies in other countries
Meddling in other countries' political environment and even killing or kidnapping democratically elected heads of states
Creation and funding of terrorist groups and states
Bombing mostly innocent countries to ashes and committing countless war crimes, including the use of nuclear and chemical weapons
I'm probably still missing things...
China overall has bad track record when it comes to everything related to all kinds of individual freedoms, but considering that the US is actually deliberately killing and torturing people to no end (at least on a much, much larger scale than China), I'd say that they are way worse than China. And again, this is no excuse for China, I just think they don't match the cruelty of the American empire.
You are truly lost if you think America is anywhere close to the cruelty of China. Truly. You have had Dictator wannabe Trump in office for one year and you think this is in any way comparable to the decades of oppression that the Chinese have been subjected to?
Trump is terrible, no doubt, and I would be the first one to criticize the American welfare system, or lack thereof, but Americans have not experienced an ounce of what the Chinese people have. You can only say this if you are bad faith or entirely ignorant of the reality of the world.
You might even be a Russian troll at this point. Absolutely divorced from reality.
Most of the points you made were about lack of individual freedoms, which I agree is bad, but doesn't come close to actually killing hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people during the past decades like the US did. And why do you keep bringing up Trump? I didn't mention him even once in my comments. I don't care about him, he is a symptom of a much larger issue, not the cause. I'm not just talking about the oppression and killings of people within US borders, but also outside of them, and that's where China doesn't even compare to the US.
If "Trump" and "welfare system" are the only relevant points you got from everything I listed, I'm not sure that I'm the one acting in bad faith. It seems like you purposefully don't even consider all the atrocities of the US outside of their own borders, but why should you, after all they're just some stupid foreigners, right?
Everyone who is even slightly critical of the Western world is a Russian troll, I know. I don't think I'm the one who is acting in bad faith and divorced from reality.
[Addendum]: Something I think you didn't mention yet is the amount of people executed by the Chinese state, even for the simplest "crimes" like possession of drugs. That's about the worst I can think of about China, and it's one aspect that I would actually call a real atrocity that is worse than in the US. But the death penalty shouldn't exist at all, so the US doesn't gain any sympathy points from me in this case either.
And that is the problem.
Anyone who claims that China is better than the US even in the current Trump-version has even less of an understanding of China. My point was that it is scary to me, as someone who hasn’t studied Chinese history and politics in-depth, to see people who clearly know nothing about China, call it better than the US. At least I can admit my lack of knowledge.
But let me ask you this: do you think that a country that is heavily censoring its people, to the point that a Taiwanese video game was erased off the market, because it made a joke about Xi Jinping, a country that has systematically suppressed and erased entire ethnic groups’ cultures and history and throwing some of them in concentration camps where they still are to this day, struggling with a horrific human trafficking epidemic both in terms of sexual slaves but also children being kidnapped and sold in illegal adoptions, subjected their populations to inhumane and unspeakable treatment during Covid, lies about the death toll of Chinese citizens during Covid, has insane poverty and oppression of its people to this day and has yet to acknowledge what happened on tiananmen square - which, need I remind you - was a horrific slaughter of innocent youths - do you think such a country is less evil and dangerous than current day America? I am not saying American is in a great place right now, and I do not think for a second that Trump is doing the country any long term favours, but China has one of the most bloody and disturbing histiories of any current super power and the shadows have carried over from that time into current day where maybe some things have gotten a bit better relative to the horror years of peaches like Mao, but the effects of these past regimes and the social indoctrination and oppression is nothing any American or any westerner, really, can fully understand nor appreciate. I have read a few books and briefly talked to classmates of Chinese descent. One of them wrote a book about how her mom escaped China and fled to Europe. She’s not that old. It wasn’t a nice holiday, let me tell you.
But please continue with your smug insinuations and tell me how fucking educated you are about this subject. I would love to hear you convince me how America is worse than China. I heard some ding dong in this thread say that China was better because at least they only terrorize their own population and not the world. It is hard to somment on something so stupid.
this applies 1/1 to the US
Not to the same extent as in China. You can only claim that if you know absolutely nothing about China at all.
Americans have way more rights and freedoms than the Chinese do. Anyone who claims otherwise is ignorant or in bad faith.
We should all sell our US bonds, 10% of them, and then repeat for any further tarrifs.
And this is why you can't boot-lick people like Trump to be on their good side. Negotiations mean nothing to him; if somebody feeds him the idea that he needs to betray you, he will. You can't make a deal with the devil, especially one that has dimentia.
The Devil is honest enough to tell you in advance the price of any deal with them: eternal damnation.
It's a 25% tariff it's in addition to the current 15%
Pedobear Donnie can't even maintain a chain of thought to the end, but he wants to a king at 80. Just die the hell faster already and spare us the drama and the rambles of a psycho pedophile.
Of those states, all but the UK and Norway are EU member states and Norway is a member of the EEA, so its practically impossible to single them out with tariffs. Trump should really understand this by now, as it isn't the first time he tries to single out EU/EEA members with his tariffs.
You think that man is capable of proper economic understanding? His brain in soup, cocaine, and memories of when he could get his dick hard enough to molest children.
Every day, in every way, things get worse.
“World peace is at stake.” The fuck? Goddamned demented rapist traitor.
Well, he is right about one thing: In order to protect global peace and security, strong measures should be taken— against his warmongering and imperialism.
@Bob @Beep
Should have done that decades ago already!
Unfortunately "as soon as possible" for the #EU @euparlament generally means many years of procrastination.
Thats all? Hahahahahahahahaha!
So he wants to slap eight faces. I wonder how many are going to slap back.
I'm ashamed italy isn't on that list
Far right countries are US/Russia allies, France could be next in 2027
Do us a favor and boycott USA and all of our products we need help getting rid of this cancer
Can please the entirety of Europe just stop trading with the US at all? Just make every company move away from the US.
Trading with the US right now is a horrible idea. Depending on the US ever again in the future is a very bad idea.
We are not able (yet) to throw out Hollywood, Google, Microsoft, Apple, Facebook, Oracle, Amazon etc immediately and totally.
But it has started.
It is going to take a very very very long time to completely untangle ourselves from US products and influence, but the the first steps are already being taken around differnet European countries. You just don't hear that much about it because trump takes up all the attention.
Which is fine by me.
Just take his stupid tariff powers away already. I am very sick of this administrations pump and dump schemes. I really feel them pursuing this crossed the line of criminality already considering how they have profited from manipulating the markets.
Those are my favorite countries!
Please note when he talks about the Golden Dome, he means that he needs Greenland to protect Mar-a-Lago from ICBM nuclear strikes.
Over the past decade the US has shown that they think they can take down Russia's ICBMs in the event of an all-out nuclear war, and thus Mutually Assured Destruction is no longer a thing. But it's predicated on early warning systems and bases that can intercept potentially hundreds of missiles. That's why he wants Greenland.
So in his scenario Denmark becomes the Glowing Sea and Mar-a-Lago becomes some absurd Fritzl bunker for Ivanka.
This might by why someone within his regime wants Greenland, but Trump?... No. I don't think any reasoned conclusion matters in convincing Trump. It is entirely more likely Trump was convinced by things like "no other president could do it", "we can name it Trumpland" or "it's center is filled with cream".
So... us Americans have to pay even higher prices just because our Pedophile-In-Chief wants to invade another country?
For long the EU and Japan has subsided the US military industrial complex. All the US made artillery must be replaced with indigenous made.
For long the world has subsidized the tech companies of US who has only stolen data and manipulated the public. The tech companies must be tariffed and replaced with homegrown open source alternatives.
Wait, who do I gotta call to put Spain on that list?
The Minister for Defence?
Going for a visit BRB