The ironic thing is that one of the Lemmy devs wanted to remove captchas entirely because they were "useless". He doesn't get that one barrier is always better than no barrier at all, and that even if OCR can easily break captchas, creating a bot will start costing more and that's the whole point of anti-spam approaches.
Yeah, it's the fallacy of letting perfect be the enemy of good. It can stop 90% of bots (made up that number) but because it doesn't stop 100%, it's not worth doing?
What's also weird is that the Lemmy dev was pushing for a different form of captcha that definitely doesn't stop bots either (just is more niche and requires bots to expend a frankly trivial amount of extra processing power)!
Exactly! I was mostly a lurker on reddit but I'm trying to engage with content way more than I did so that I can help build these platforms and make them more enticing.
there need be someone smarter than me, create website called "frontpage of the internet" that aggregate and presented all the community posting of the lemmy+kbin fediverse instances in one place
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FYI this is mostly bot accounts. They are mostly confined to isolated servers that didn't have Captcha enabled.
I think we only have like 250k real accounts. Granted, we had less than 50k 2 weeks ago, but don't be fooled into thinking we already made it.
Please try to get the word out people, we need to get bigger before this whole fiasco blows over.
The ironic thing is that one of the Lemmy devs wanted to remove captchas entirely because they were "useless". He doesn't get that one barrier is always better than no barrier at all, and that even if OCR can easily break captchas, creating a bot will start costing more and that's the whole point of anti-spam approaches.
Yeah, it's the fallacy of letting perfect be the enemy of good. It can stop 90% of bots (made up that number) but because it doesn't stop 100%, it's not worth doing?
What's also weird is that the Lemmy dev was pushing for a different form of captcha that definitely doesn't stop bots either (just is more niche and requires bots to expend a frankly trivial amount of extra processing power)!
The stats I look at are number of monthly active users, posts and comments.
Keep in mind very many of them are spam bots, taking advantage of new instances that allow open registration to "spam create" a high amount of users.
Not to say lemmy and kbin aren't seeing a big growth, they are, but numbers are not reliable right now.
Yes but as someone who came here a few days ago, every day there is more content, more upvotes, and more comenta and engagement.
Eddit: 3 days, wow felt like more, we are growing surprisingly fast.
Now we just have to continue providing content and making the subs and magazines welcoming to all.
Exactly! I was mostly a lurker on reddit but I'm trying to engage with content way more than I did so that I can help build these platforms and make them more enticing.
Beside the bots, how many of us here have signed up for kbin and Lemmy so would be counted more than once
A lot I guess. Or have signed up on multiple instances
Me too.
Yeah I made kind of a lot of accounts on Lemmy and one on kbin before I found what I wanted my "main" one to be lol
That's pretty awesome. I have not experienced too many obvious bots yet, outside of the reddit repost bot, which is useful.
Good to see.
there need be someone smarter than me, create website called "frontpage of the internet" that aggregate and presented all the community posting of the lemmy+kbin fediverse instances in one place
Should accelerate after 1st July