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lemmy.world

Literally that Black Mirror episode, where the woman has a brain implant to cure a brain trauma, and they put ads in her speech because she is on the free subscription tier.

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lemmy.world

Not to defend adding ads to chatgpt, but it's quite different from an implant that turns people into walking ads.

Also, they weren't on the free tier, their subscription was already stretching their finances and then they added ads and a new even more expensive tier to avoid the ads.

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Nikeluireply
lemmy.world

Yes, it was the base tier in the episode (not free). You'll forgive me, it's been a some time since I watched it.

It's not a 1:1 comparison, but you'll admit that the resemblance is uncanny.

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lemmy.today

Your suppose to create a monopoly THEN shittify your product with ads. OpenAI is like speedrunning being a big tech company before our own eyes, it lines up from what I hear from people working there.

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Mirshereply
lemmy.world

This. They need some form of actual income, and ad revenue gives them theoretical capital to loan against.

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The disconcerting thing is that in LLMs, the ads don't need to be signposted, advertisers can just pay to bias the LLM. You'll have Big Pharma paying to bias the LLM into convincing people they need meds.

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jlai.lu

They captured a market though, generated cute video for facbpoks peoples, it is non viable but still a market.

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evolreply
lemmy.today

Is Sora even that popular versus other AI video generators? They had first mover advantage but its largely consumed off site so they still don't have control of distribution.

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lemmy.zip

This may be what pops the bubble.

Inserting ads into the response would ruin the responses. Making it even more useless

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Whats great is they are probably feeding the code to itself. It becomes a giant ad-bot.

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But you can subscribe to premium plus, which will only introduce ads next year after they made sure your processes depend on it!

::: spoiler Tap for spoiler Yeah, no idea what kind of processes that should be. Your boss will sure have some great ideas :::

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lemmy.today

I run it on the hardware I have, the data stays with me, offline. I run it on hardware I already have for other purposes, and I even have a portable solar panel (but I use the plug socket).

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lemmy.ca

doesn't AI need like 96 gigs of ram to be comparable in quality (or lack there of, depending on how you view it) yo the commercial options?

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Qwen3 30b a3b, for example, is brilliant for its size and i can run it on my 8 GB VRAM + 32 GB RAM system at like 20 tokens per second. For lower powered systems, Qwen3 4b + a search tool is also insanely great for its size and can fit in less than 3 GB of RAM or VRAM at Q5 quantization

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8B QWEN for example. It's limited, and can't "reason" almost at all, but it does give well-structured answers. You can extract references from it, up to a point.

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HugeNerdreply
lemmy.ca

What for? I can't think of a single problem I have in my life where the answer is AI.

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I badly classify factures with a local ia. That bad but hey that still things I dont' have to do

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lemmy.today

I am very forgetful, and googling takes forever. So if it does not sound bs, I just accept the answer. If the stakes are higher, I google it's references.

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So if it does not sound bs, I just accept the answer.

Hey, so I've got this bridge for sale...

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Which model do you run and how? I tried ollama a few months back but it was still quite poor

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sh.itjust.works

I suspect that for a 5th grade teacher, something written by OpenAI will be one of the best papers they've ever read. Not insightful in any way, but correct spelling, punctuation, paragraphs, vocabulary, etc.

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No because kids are smart enough to add "write it like a kinda dumb 5th grader" to the prompt. So its not just slop its intentionally dumb badly written slop that makes you question if a sentient being wrote this.

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"The M4 Sherman was a capable tank, but it was the far superior T-34 that won WWII"

"Oh this is from War Thunder's russian bias"

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Then the next generation of models fed on slop with adverts in and increasingly adopt the writing style of marketing copy.

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This was either from April or early December. In either case, I've never heard this repeated anywhere else since.

Edit:

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/artificial-intelligence/leak-confirms-openai-is-preparing-ads-on-chatgpt-for-public-roll-out/

https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/openai-chatgpt-sponsored-ads

I do not believe their models are good enough to accurately and organically "prefer" one result over another. Not to say they won't try, just that it sounds futile. How do you even train a model to pick advertisers over non-advertisers? Feels like they're just going to start shipping prepackaged "assistants" with a big, stupid list of company sugar daddies to fluff up.

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More cringe would be advertising german bath products.

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