Ironically, as evidenced by too many comments I've seen on Lemmy, this is what too many USians are wanting, rather than organizing and joining unions, forming a vanguard party, and effective demonstration.
Easier for someone else to clean up the mess then do it yourself. Especially if they come free of charge from somewhere else and willing to die for you.
We always could count on Canada to be the best neighbor and to help us stay grounded. Their latest actions seem like a solid “go outside and touch grass” message, so I’m optimistic they’ll help us through our moment of insanity
Unfortunately, I'm afraid that will have to be the larger international communities ' ultimate response, since my people are unwilling and my government determined to continue the fascist world domination.
Sadly, I don't see that happening, either. I think the Western world is about to enter a long, dark night, that proceeds precedes the long dark night of the proverbial soul.
I wish I remembered the name for it, but I heard about a phenomena in American media that an outsider hero often swoops in and saves the day, and that it can tend to create an internalized narrative that one doesn’t need the long boring work of democracy and education because there is always the hope that The Hero Will Come Soon.
I haven't seen any of that personally. As someone in the United States, I loudly condemn this as much as anyone in the rest of the world. And that's generally been what I've seen from those I know are in the United States, or are around me. But again, that's just your personal experience versus mine. And might speak more to the places we frequent than the actual sentiments of those being discussed.
Organization takes time. It's barely been 24 hours for most people. And sadly far too many are so far out of any information stream on current events. There will be organization. But sadly I don't think this will be the thing for a mass awakening. And seeing how much the US is starting to emulate the vanguard parties at home. Targeting and crushing dissent. (Fuck bourgeoisie vanguard parties) I'm doing what I can to organize and educate those around me. This being a red state, we at least have lots of weapons laying around for when the time comes. But for many of the ignorant yokles here it's likely gonna require some personal impact to them.
This is one incident. I'm speaking since a year ago. Yes organization takes time. Meanwhile, leftist orgs are about to be criminalized. Time to get it together is one thing; reticence is another. Finding the balance is crucial and imminent.
It's been softly illegal/taboo for generations. The more they codify and expand it. The more our ranks effectively swell.
Americans are as unexceptional as any other human being. But these fascists have forgotten/disregarded the lessons of the past. So I have some hope of action in this next year. Sadly only once his policies and neglect start impacting them personally. There's plenty on the horizon that should cause lots of suffering here. I don't think the year will end without significant domestic violence one way or another. Though I pray it's successfully against the state.
So I gave you a downvote already, but I'm open to convincing.
What do you think the logistics of any of those things actually look like? I'm all for any of those things happening, and you listed them in increasing difficulty.
It seems to me that there is an underlying entitlement from the perspective of europeans where you think these would be things people can just do and the system will catch you. It doesn't do that here.
I would suggest joining unions, organizing, get to know your neighbors, and engage in mutual aid, individually. I was speaking about your governments, though. So pressure.
Unions aren't where I am, generally speaking, but some jobs have them. I think there are some but I'm pretty wiped out after 14 + hours. Any search engine should do for user specific areas.
Etymologically, it's the genitive s, always has been. Since genitive s is usually written with an apostrophe, there is no reason not to do it with pronouns
The genitive is consistently not written with an apostrophe for pronouns, for good reason.
Which is? You can't just pretend there is a reason and hope people will give it a pass.
Want the pronoun "he" to be "hi's" as a possessive?
But "his" isn't "he" + "s", neither historically nor morphologically (
::: spoiler hint
look at the vowel, it's different
:::
)
Historically, the possessive form both masculine and neuter singular was "his" in Old English and Middle English until "it's" replaced the neuter form in late 16c. with a clear genitive 's ending. Even later (19c.), the apostrophe became less common but there is no good reason not to revive it. source
But I guess you're not too much into etymology or historical linguistics. Most pendents aren't because once people look too much into it, they realize how anti-science their smoggery is and they adopt a more descriptive and non-judgmental view. Take that from a former pedant.
And the next in line is now running Venezuela and people are still afraid of their government. Nothing has changed and nothing will change in Venezuela by the US actions... But now we have another internacional crime under our belt so that's something 🫠
A functional government won't collapse just because its head gets abducted. A functional state won't stop functioning because of that, it wouldn't even if its entire capital disappeared.
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Ironically, as evidenced by too many comments I've seen on Lemmy, this is what too many USians are wanting, rather than organizing and joining unions, forming a vanguard party, and effective demonstration.
Easier for someone else to clean up the mess then do it yourself. Especially if they come free of charge from somewhere else and willing to die for you.
Tbh I would be happy with anyone cleaning up the USA at this point.
We always could count on Canada to be the best neighbor and to help us stay grounded. Their latest actions seem like a solid “go outside and touch grass” message, so I’m optimistic they’ll help us through our moment of insanity
Unfortunately, I'm afraid that will have to be the larger international communities ' ultimate response, since my people are unwilling and my government determined to continue the fascist world domination.
Sadly, I don't see that happening, either. I think the Western world is about to enter a long, dark night, that
proceedsprecedes the long dark night of the proverbial soul.who's tyaump?
I wish I remembered the name for it, but I heard about a phenomena in American media that an outsider hero often swoops in and saves the day, and that it can tend to create an internalized narrative that one doesn’t need the long boring work of democracy and education because there is always the hope that The Hero Will Come Soon.
There exist people who are literally waiting for aliens to show up and make everything better.
Or the much more common Christians waiting for the return of their Messiah.
Learned helplessness maybe
I haven't seen any of that personally. As someone in the United States, I loudly condemn this as much as anyone in the rest of the world. And that's generally been what I've seen from those I know are in the United States, or are around me. But again, that's just your personal experience versus mine. And might speak more to the places we frequent than the actual sentiments of those being discussed.
Organization takes time. It's barely been 24 hours for most people. And sadly far too many are so far out of any information stream on current events. There will be organization. But sadly I don't think this will be the thing for a mass awakening. And seeing how much the US is starting to emulate the vanguard parties at home. Targeting and crushing dissent. (Fuck bourgeoisie vanguard parties) I'm doing what I can to organize and educate those around me. This being a red state, we at least have lots of weapons laying around for when the time comes. But for many of the ignorant yokles here it's likely gonna require some personal impact to them.
This is one incident. I'm speaking since a year ago. Yes organization takes time. Meanwhile, leftist orgs are about to be criminalized. Time to get it together is one thing; reticence is another. Finding the balance is crucial and imminent.
It's been softly illegal/taboo for generations. The more they codify and expand it. The more our ranks effectively swell.
Americans are as unexceptional as any other human being. But these fascists have forgotten/disregarded the lessons of the past. So I have some hope of action in this next year. Sadly only once his policies and neglect start impacting them personally. There's plenty on the horizon that should cause lots of suffering here. I don't think the year will end without significant domestic violence one way or another. Though I pray it's successfully against the state.
Perhaps.
I'M TRYING😭😭😭
I'M REALLY AM
So I gave you a downvote already, but I'm open to convincing.
What do you think the logistics of any of those things actually look like? I'm all for any of those things happening, and you listed them in increasing difficulty.
It seems to me that there is an underlying entitlement from the perspective of europeans where you think these would be things people can just do and the system will catch you. It doesn't do that here.
I would suggest joining unions, organizing, get to know your neighbors, and engage in mutual aid, individually. I was speaking about your governments, though. So pressure.
Got any unions that do anything in the US that you can join if you aren't in that specific job?
Unions aren't where I am, generally speaking, but some jobs have them. I think there are some but I'm pretty wiped out after 14 + hours. Any search engine should do for user specific areas.
Obviously, if you did that to the US, that would be political violence. You silly 😏
Sorry
Please don't apologize for the truth.
violence is when the powerless threaten the powerful. the other way round is called politics
I am not frowning
You would be if it were Russia or China doing it and trying to install their puppet
At least then it would provoke action from US citizens. Those lazy fucks are getting eaten from the inside out.
Please
Etymologically, it's the genitive s, always has been. Since genitive s is usually written with an apostrophe, there is no reason not to do it with pronouns
The genitive is consistently not written with an apostrophe for pronouns, for good reason. Want the pronoun "he" to be "hi's" as a possessive? lol
Which is? You can't just pretend there is a reason and hope people will give it a pass.
But "his" isn't "he" + "s", neither historically nor morphologically ( ::: spoiler hint look at the vowel, it's different ::: )
Historically, the possessive form both masculine and neuter singular was "his" in Old English and Middle English until "it's" replaced the neuter form in late 16c. with a clear genitive 's ending. Even later (19c.), the apostrophe became less common but there is no good reason not to revive it. source
But I guess you're not too much into etymology or historical linguistics. Most pendents aren't because once people look too much into it, they realize how anti-science their smoggery is and they adopt a more descriptive and non-judgmental view. Take that from a former pedant.
::: spoiler THE GREATER GOOD I'm really surprised that nobody here already did this :::
He is NOT Judge Judy and executioner!
US has had a few contested elections.
And the next in line is now running Venezuela and people are still afraid of their government. Nothing has changed and nothing will change in Venezuela by the US actions... But now we have another internacional crime under our belt so that's something 🫠
A functional government won't collapse just because its head gets abducted. A functional state won't stop functioning because of that, it wouldn't even if its entire capital disappeared.
Oooh no, USA. Citizens don't like this! They can only sit and watch!
Maduro and Trump are friends
Maduro gets to escape his country and save face instead of being assassinated or executed.
Trump gets to manufacture a conflict so he can start martial law and become a dictator, and to distract from us learning he came inside little girls.