The best part is the next stage of the pattern where the opposition party gets elected and fails to change the ability for a president to launch regime change wars unilaterally. Or make it so ordinary folks have a decent life.
I'm not super sure what "it" refers to, but assuming "it" refers to newly bombing a foreign nation to enact regime change, and not just expanding on or continuing already existing bombing campaigns (which would expand the list to literally every dem president since Eisenhower):
Obama: Libya
Clinton: Yugoslavia
Kennedy: Cuba
Truman: Korea
But some of these are quite far in the past, which other users have suggested makes them invalid examples somehow. Idk. Not sure what the other poster was referring to, but I think this may have been it.
I didn't make any such claim regarding popularity, first we'd have to agree on what qualifies as "unpopular".
Re wars, again, first let's establish do you mean "declared by congress war" like the official USA propaganda line, or do you believe military strikes are also war (or even acts of war)? What about assassination?
With "acts of war" Democratic presidents routinely commit acts of war along with Republicans, how far can we go back?
if "declared war" is your line, then we haven't been in a "real war" since Korea, so we've been "war free" since 1950s. I think that's silly personally.
And I wasn't responding to OP, OP doesn't dictate all discussion that follows. I was responding to another claim within the thread, one regarding "Republicans" without the "unpopular" tag. Thank you
No wars until the average American isn't struggling with basic needs like food, education, healthcare and a roof over their heads. You know, things every other normal country provides to their citizens.
No wars until the average American isn't struggling with basic needs like food, education, healthcare and a roof over their heads. You know, things every other normal country provides to their citizens.
Or are we going to conveniently ignore that the rumor that Trump sucked Bill's hog means that Bill was running in those circles too? The reason there's barely any movement on releasing the files is because it implicates fucking everyone in that socio-economic strata.
Trump's openly horrid. That doesn't mean the previous chucklefucks were spotless.
And in 2027 AI apparently escapes contentment, and the US government is destroyed in 2029. At least that's what the YouTube thumbnails have been saying
So, they work around that by saying these wars are not wars, so now that this has been established, the president can do as they wish and nobody can stop them (as only congress restrains the President)
Assuming that he was doing this in order to boost his popularity due to war, how does he fuck this up and get bullied over the Epstein files for another year? Because he’s GOING to fuck this up.
Usually there's a lot more build up for this kind of thing to get the public on their side, but they figured they could use the Trump magic to just shove it in dry. I don't think it's gonna fly. Share all the Epstein files!
Nope. Are you seriously thinking that while Pete was Biden's debate sparring partner he didn't realize the Biden's debate performance was going to be abysmal?
I believe they're setting this up so they can send Epsteiners to Venezuela to take high level government positions and "help run it" and give them a convenient way to leave the country and be beyond prosecution while maintaining a luxury lifestyle.
The best part is the next stage of the pattern where the opposition party gets elected and fails to change the ability for a president to launch regime change wars unilaterally. Or make it so ordinary folks have a decent life.
And then we just repeat it every decade or so.
"opposition" party
And "Thanks Obama" 2026
It's the Republican presidential playbook.
So, when Democrat Presidents do this (as they do) they are just stealing Republican plays?
That's scary!
When did a Dem do it?
I'm not super sure what "it" refers to, but assuming "it" refers to newly bombing a foreign nation to enact regime change, and not just expanding on or continuing already existing bombing campaigns (which would expand the list to literally every dem president since Eisenhower):
Obama: Libya
Clinton: Yugoslavia
Kennedy: Cuba
Truman: Korea
But some of these are quite far in the past, which other users have suggested makes them invalid examples somehow. Idk. Not sure what the other poster was referring to, but I think this may have been it.
Look it up, Jesus you want me to list them all? (many)
No.
So never, got it
He's just going to list cold war bullshit like I give a fuck what a Democrat did 60 years ago.
Let's talk about today
So you don't read and don't know anything? I understand
And still no links for us to educate ourselves? I don't understand
That's okay, some day you will figure out how to look up things, IT'S NEAT
I like that you don't know this, it amuses me
Unpopular Democratic Presidents initiating wars? I guess you could argue Kennedy and Obama were unpopular at bit of a stretch.
I didn't make any such claim regarding popularity, first we'd have to agree on what qualifies as "unpopular".
Re wars, again, first let's establish do you mean "declared by congress war" like the official USA propaganda line, or do you believe military strikes are also war (or even acts of war)? What about assassination?
With "acts of war" Democratic presidents routinely commit acts of war along with Republicans, how far can we go back?
if "declared war" is your line, then we haven't been in a "real war" since Korea, so we've been "war free" since 1950s. I think that's silly personally.
The whole thread is about unpopular presidents starting wars, you want to change the frame of the discussion you need to specify that.
And I wasn't responding to OP, OP doesn't dictate all discussion that follows. I was responding to another claim within the thread, one regarding "Republicans" without the "unpopular" tag. Thank you
It's a very obvious pattern. A US president decides to do regime change.
That's it. That's the pattern.
No wars until the average American isn't struggling with basic needs like food, education, healthcare and a roof over their heads. You know, things every other normal country provides to their citizens.
Can we still have class war, though?
You're already in one.
We have class war at home
I'm afraid the US operates on military keynesianism. It would be a welcome change in character, but an unlikely one.
The only difference now is that the president is also a pedophile
Well is that a difference though? From what I see, the only difference is that a known pedophile can keep being president
known pedophile
Or are we going to conveniently ignore that the rumor that Trump sucked Bill's hog means that Bill was running in those circles too? The reason there's barely any movement on releasing the files is because it implicates fucking everyone in that socio-economic strata.
Trump's openly horrid. That doesn't mean the previous chucklefucks were spotless.
America First doesn't include running other countries.
It does they just envision a much larger America.
Cuba and Nicaragua next before the mid-terms.
Greenland just after, and Canada in late 2027.
And in 2027 AI apparently escapes contentment, and the US government is destroyed in 2029. At least that's what the YouTube thumbnails have been saying
That's why only congress can declare war!
So, they work around that by saying these wars are not wars, so now that this has been established, the president can do as they wish and nobody can stop them (as only congress restrains the President)
Just a special military operation?
They'll name it ironically, like "operation southern shield".
im so happy we're making all the oil companies even more money! yay!
Never have a looked forward to owning an EV as much as I do today.
Assuming that he was doing this in order to boost his popularity due to war, how does he fuck this up and get bullied over the Epstein files for another year? Because he’s GOING to fuck this up.
Usually there's a lot more build up for this kind of thing to get the public on their side, but they figured they could use the Trump magic to just shove it in dry. I don't think it's gonna fly. Share all the Epstein files!
Why does his profile picture look like a sims 1 character??
The same reason his platform was "whatever the companies wanted it to be"
Yeah, I had high hopes from him and he sold out almost immediately.
Friendly reminder:
My brother used AI to create "professional portraits" and they looked like this.
I mocked him and flooded his inbox with local portrait photographers until he changed his profile pic
Just like Israel and Iran. I would say the same for Russia, but Putin was pretty popular before the war iirc.
Thanks to his sugar delivery service.
It's a very obvious pattern for that reason, and others.
Pete Buttigieg is a liberal. He's only saying this to save face.
Listen to people like Graham Platner instead.
He had the chance to sound the alarm about Biden's mental health early on and didn't take it. He's part of the reason Trump is currently president.
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Hmm...bot?
Nope. Are you seriously thinking that while Pete was Biden's debate sparring partner he didn't realize the Biden's debate performance was going to be abysmal?
I'm glad he's talking directly to the ones who need to hear it.
I believe they're setting this up so they can send Epsteiners to Venezuela to take high level government positions and "help run it" and give them a convenient way to leave the country and be beyond prosecution while maintaining a luxury lifestyle.
Pete would know, he's had first hand experience.