Spyke
lemmy.ca

“The biometric entry and exit system is not a surveillance program,” the department said in the same document.

It’s a surveillance program.

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can
sh.itjust.works

#stop going to the states

Unless it's necessary for work, and even then I'd weigh the risks, why the hell are any Canadians crossing the border?

I don't plan on doing it ever again.

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Agreed. No one should be crossing the border. It's not worth a trip to El Salvador.

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May not always be realistic I suppose, but they could come to Canada.

Edit: assuming we're taking about visiting.

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ICE could give a tinkers fuck about family. Look at these uneducated, racist fascists that are shit off a boot scum the wrong way and your off to El Salvador. It’s getting worse by the day.

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piefed.social

I'm not justifying it, nor am I saying you should visit the States (please don't), but I've been photographed on entry/exit of Japan and NZ the last two years of travelling. Fingerprinted as well in Japan.

I guess I'm just saying that this sadly will become more and more normal globally.

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I was fingerprinted or might have had just a check when I entered the US when I was not yet a Canadian citizen, after I became a citizen this never needed to be done.

I'm just sick and tired of all this shit. Once upon a time it used to be that you had to be a criminal, and I mean actually convicted of something, to have those things entered anywhere, now they're just doing it to everyone.

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Yeah as a UK citizen I have been photographed and fingerprinted in the USA for like 10 years...its nothing new really.

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The difference is what the US is increasingly doing with their surveillance data.

Obviously increased surveillance of the public is a privacy nightmare no matter who is doing it, but when it's being done by a country that is speedrunning fascism and is disappearing people with no due process, it's a much more acutely worrying probelm.

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lemmy.nz

I'm surprised about NZ given how much our government has cut services on border control.

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lemmy.nz

I had assumed it was part of the E-Gate. The bit that compares your face to your passport photo.

Theoretically the photo never needs to leave the e-gate system though. I have no idea if it does or doesn't.

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lemmy.nz

Oh, they've expanded that service quite a bit since I last travelled. I had a quick google and it says any captured biometric data is destroyed after 3 months.

But I guess it is still open to being hacked /data the data getting out there somehow

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Formfillerreply
lemmy.world

It’s going to palantir forever. Palantir is in New Zealand they’re making deals with the devil

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Thiel is in NZ so this wouldn't surprise me in the least to be honest.

I wish our government would stop selling citizenship to these fuckwits who only want to make lives of the average person worse

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lemmy.ca

Neat. Trump stole the election and I quit going. Haven't been since. Sorry good Americans, but the rest of your lot are fucking morons and I won't be coming back.

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lemmy.ca

I could literally care less what the process is at the US border for Canadians. As a Canadian, I’m never going there ever again and that’s permanent. Not even as a stopover to somewhere else.

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braxreply
sh.itjust.works

Interesting that you could still care less. I'm in the same position and I literally couldn't care any less unless I found some way to negatively care or something

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jasellereply
lemmy.ca

If I could simultaneously upvote and downvote you I would.

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Same. I live 30 minutes from the border and haven't been since before Trump's first term. I hope my brother and his family, who live in California, stay healthy, because I wouldn't even fly out for their funeral.

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Same, we're 'overdo' to visit family in Mexico but the direct flights are pretty costly but I refuse to even do a layover there now so, guess we need to save up or they come here

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2022: Yay, I finally got my Canadian citizenship! Crossing the US border will be much smoother now 2025: psych!

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I've no desire to visit a Tin Pot Little North American Country.

Though to be fair, I have been photographed entering other countries like Japan.

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lemmy.ca

Canada photographs its own citizens when flying in, if there's outrage over the US border then why aren't we talking about our own entry protocols?

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Never had that happen to me. Unless you are referring to the passport verification step.

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