Spyke
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lemmy.ml

This is interesting—it implies he intentionally committed suicide while also implicating Trump as a fellow sex offender.

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lemmy.world

It's the suicide reference that caught my attention too. Perhaps he was given no alternative.

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lemmy.world

If you're not dead, no one cares.

If you're dead, it now explicitly ties the person who pressured you to do it to your own crimes.

I think he even sent it to such a shit stain of a person just for optics. Maybe even to a known bad address knowing it won't bounce back till you did it?

But still, pretty sure they read mail both out and into prisons...

So it's weird this was postmarked days ahead of time. It makes it look like he was allowed to commit suicide and had no motive to hide it.

I think it's one of those "two clever by half" things. He wanted to be subtle and sprinkle implications, but an actual video tape of trump doing horrible things wouldn't even matter now.

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Epstein does sound like an unbearably pretentious and self-important man, even apart from all the abuse of minors. And he surrounded himself with other unbearably self-important men.

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That's how I read it, too. I find it especially weird he says, "Our president" instead of using his name, as if pointing a finger.

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Yeah trump tried to house him with a dude that was a die hard trump fan known to be violent at Trump's will.

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Dear L. N.

As you know by now, I have taken the "short route" home. Good luck! We shared one thing... our love and caring for young ladies and the hope they'd reach their full potential.

Our president also shares our love of young, nubile girls. When a young beauty walked by he loved to "grab snatch," whereas we ended up snatching grub in the mess halls of the system.

Life is unfair.

Yours, J. Epstien

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lemmy.world

Movie version: Thousands of pages of perfectly redacted and edited papers come out, and one tiny detail leads to unraveling of the entire conspiracy, reveals the perpetrators, and brings down an entire corrupt empire.

Reality: Everything is so blatantly incompetently being doctored in broad daylight - like a child claiming he didn't eat the cookies while in the process of eating the cookies, that everyone is actually too stunned by the absurdity to do anything.

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Not too stunned. They think they will get some of the cookie crumbs falling in the carpet. Like the dog.

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DivineDevreply
piefed.social

The point is very obvious, the people involved in the conspiracy act way less careful than one would expect, and if all of it was a movie, people would call the plot unrealistic and stupid

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And in real life people scream about how it's AlL a dIStRacTiOn!!!!one!! because they can't accept the fact that they put a bunch of absolute morons in power.

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lemmy.world

The sitting president of the United States of America is a child rapist.

And conservatives are rallying behind that child rapist.

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Conservativism itself says that everyone is part of a strict social hierarchy, and that those above have complete power over those below.

Which makes the "ideology" incredibly attractive to a certain type of predator.

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Except completely incompetent but somehow MORE successful than their fictional counterparts.

Turns out that Idiocracy was too OPTIMISTIC 😮‍💨

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lemmy.world

The letter was postmarked “just days after Epstein died” in 2019, according to the progressive media company MeidasTouch. It was addressed to Larry Nassar, the convicted serial sex offender who was sentenced to 60 years in prison for abusing hundreds of children and young women.

In the alleged letter, Epstein addresses Nassar as “L.N.,” and makes a startling reference to “our president,” which would have been Trump at the time it was allegedly written.

“As you know by now, I have taken the ‘short route’ home. Good luck! We shared one thing… our love & caring for young ladies at the hope they'd reach their full potential,” the letter reads.

“Our president shares our love of young, nubile girls. When a young beauty walked by he loved to ‘grab ------,’ whereas we ended up snatching grub in the mess halls of the system. Life is unfair. Yours, J. Epstein”

The redacting marker probably ran out ink...

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grtereply
lemmy.ca

“Our president shares our love of young, nubile girls.

barf

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blazeknavereply
lemmy.world

The full potential part was the worst. Sick reflection on how these groomers think they're doing something good for these girls. Also the life isn't fair part. ... Yeah, for the thousands of lives you destroyed permanently. Rot in hell kid fucking monsterous piece of shit.

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It’s definitely unfair that nasser and Epstein got jail time while trump didn’t. Only one way to fix that now

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To anyone reading, “destroyed permanently” refers to the murders and suicides, not the survivors. That is never the language we use for survivors, no matter how atrocious the particulars, because it reinforces the same purity culture that purveys (1) a great deal of the associated suffering, trauma, and stigma, and (2) the obsession with defilement that many rapists share.

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Sick reflection on how these groomers think they’re doing something good for these girls.

I've rather read that one as "full potential" in the sense of "usefulness" rather than doing anything good for them, similarly to how a child slave would reach "full potential" through increased productivity.

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lemmy.world

Probably couldn’t ctrl-f an image and they were too dumb to transcribe it.

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lemmy.world

His indication that he took the “short route” home implies he wrote the letter before committing suicide. It certainly implicates Trump, but the conspiracy theorists will not be happy.

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cannedtunareply
lemmy.world

If he did, why the hell would they go through all the trouble of claiming the tapes were lost, then releasing obviously doctored footage, and putting out some shitty animation passed as the real thing? Seems like it would have been unnecessary.

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lemmy.world

I believe he was on suicide watch. The prison guards would have been implicated as complicit if the whole thing was on camera.

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Well, yeah. He was on suicide watch, but also right before he was to testify, just happened he was given a bit of time where the prison guards left him alone, and the tapes “stopped” recording. Assisted or not that’s at best negligence and coincidence, at worst actively complicit and planned.

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To try and seem not as incompetent as they are. He was supposed to be on suicide watch

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naeapreply
sopuli.xyz

How should he have written the letter after the assumed suicide?

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lemmy.world

His indication that he took the “short route” home implies he wrote the letter before committing suicide

You said this, lol. Like there's another time he could have written it.

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lemmy.world

Yeah, I know what you said, I quoted you. Either he wrote it before his suicide or he didn't write it at all. Your phrasing implies he could have possibly written it after his suicide.

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I think the main point I was trying to make is that it suggests he committed suicide rather than being killed. I could have chosen better phrasing. Obviously he wrote it before his death, but thanks for pointing it out for me.

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DarkFuturereply
lemmy.world

I've always leaned toward suicide over assassination.

The assasination scenario is very Hollywood, but everyone in this administration is pretty incompetent and it would be pretty ballsy for someone with access to Epstein to do it. It's just not as likely as suicide, when the guy was looking at being behind bars for eternity.

Doesn't in any way imply Donald Trump isn't a child rapist though.

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In the trump administration, yes. But there’s a fuckton of wealthy influential people who probably had already spent a lot of money keeping Epstein silent and would take the opportunity to keep him from cutting any kind of deal (like, throwing every democrat and non-loyal republican under the bus while swearing Trump had no idea about the girls.) Plenty of those people have the money to hire a prison guard to engineer a dead camera and a “suicide” and do it in a way that was deniable.

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Is there any other way to read that if we didn't know he's dead? Like, maybe the short route home from prison would be to give up the location and code to his other secret safe with the video of Trump raping a 14 year old or sucking off Clinton

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Holy hell. Black highliter, again. 3 days ago I mentioned I was able to do this with some Slovakian censored documents, and here I see it again.

Perhaps it's intentional this time. "Oops, my bad!"

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I’m surprised someone hasn’t spooked the entire right wing with “we fed the epstein files into ChatGPT to unredact them”, they all (especially in trump’s circle) act like they believe it could do that.

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Oh wow. I looked at the raw contents of a couple pdfs, but those ones were done properly so I just assumed it was a dead end.

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I expected incompetence would end up releasing some of what wasn't intended to be released. Now we have this, and the poorly "redacted" PDF files.

I wonder how much more will come from this.

I also wonder if it was a mistake at all.

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lemmy.world

Trump isn’t referenced by name. The AI scanner probably missed it. This letter almost appears as if it was expressly written to implicate Trump.

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So it was a plant by Biden to both implicate trump AND cover up the murder of friend of the president Jeffrey Epstein. How diabolical!

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The AI scanner

Oh boy. Does this mean that one or more of our favorite tech sociopaths might have full unredacted versions of the kompromat that they totally promised the AI system would not save?

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It is written in cursive. Their automated system probably couldn't read it

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kescusayreply
lemmy.world

I've been somewhat avoiding the news (for my sanity), but I have heard that some of the PDFs turned out to be badly redacted and the original text is accessible programmatically. Do you happen to have a link to one? I'm a developer and have worked with PDFs extensively in the past. I'd love to delve into one and un-redacted it.

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lemmy.ca

Do these people really think people aren't downloading and archiving everything they release immediately? Incompetent morons.

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Or malicious compliance and feigned incompetence. "Oopsie! I think I accidentally published one of the naughty files! It looks like someone already downloaded it. I should fix my mistake and unpublish this. The CMS is so tricky! I can't believe I keep making this mistake!"

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His body guard did say after he died: "He had help to do that." Or something like that.

I still don't think he chose to do it

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I mean...all the evidence points to a different direction before we even knew about this. You can see the postage date on the item here.

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piefed.social

Did the story get pulled from raw story? The only thing loading from the link for me is the comments.

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nocturnereply
piefed.social

I opened it the link in a browser with no adblocking and the same thing.

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Loads fine for me. Maybe their servers were taking a beating when you tried?

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lemmy.world

Dunno, but it's all over the place now, so you can see it elsewhere. Rawstory was just the first place that had the posted info.

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