Spyke
aussie.zone

I do find it interesting that thousands of discrete devices is somehow easier than them virtualising them devices.

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lemmy.ca

Virtualization is easily detected.

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aussie.zone

Yeah but why would facebook/x bother to check? Engagement is engagement. They already know there are millions of bots and don’t care.

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My guess: it is a low hanging fruit and then they can say "Look! We blocked X million bots! So you can trust the users that are left...... please don't look into it any more"

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because people used to do this all the time with ads: serve up an ad click, get paid… so spin up a bunch of clients and have them click ads on your site, easy money!

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

shareholders want real users, not bots. Facebook has to tell shareholders that real eyeballs are looking at ads, not virtual ones. Facebook is an adtech company—all tech they develop further establishes their advertisement empire, if advertisers (or more specifically, investors) find out ads on facebook aren't worth their value, then facebook dies.

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aussie.zone

Absolutely but so does reddit, they all make a great effort to not notice bot accounts.

It would be easy to identity many bots by their browsing habits and other digital markers but they obfuscate all data that may give an indication of real users because, as you say, any drop in reported users is a drop in ad value.

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They obfuscate for us. There is no way they don't know. But bots do drive engagement.

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kroxreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

Pretty sure they only care because they could get in trouble for shareholder faud

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No that’s why they never release any data about bots. That way they can pretend every account is a real user.

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And, i assume, those devices have each different WAN addresses

It would be to obvious, if all of them would have the same..

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zurohkireply
aussie.zone

Probably it's cheaper to get 60 used low-end devices than one device that can run 60 copies of the Facebook app.

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lemmy.world

Bingo. People treat phones like they're disposable, and buying pallets of old functional phones is shockingly affordable

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People trade their old phones in when they buy new ones or donate them to random causes.

This here is where those old phones end up.

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lemmy.world

Forgive my ignorance, why is there a wall of cellphones?

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piefed.social

This is what a bot farm looks like

aka this is who you’re arguing with online.

This is what a lot of Lemmy traffic comes from.

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quokk.au

-This comment brought to you by a bot™

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Giving helpful instructions is not among the activities bot farms are involved with.

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Naichreply
lemmings.world

How is it used? Are they remotely controlled by computer somehow or do they need someone going from phone to phone, putting stuff in manually?

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Things phones and humans have in common in Asia: they're very cheap to procure.

It is sad, and heartbreaking, and true.

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piefed.social

Stick around long enough and pay attention and you’ll see.

Things relating to: Israel, Gaza, discussions of capitalism, “east” vs “west”, USA imperialism, the Uyghur Genocide, the genocide of the Palestinian people, the cultural revolution, great leap, Soviets, etc

^ suddenly there are a lot more people on Lemmy when these topics come up. Voting is transparent.

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You're looking at 7x14 cellphones per rack and at least 5 racks. So 490 phones. Each of them will have Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, Reddit and so on installed. A setup like that will give you the power to immediately downvote a Reddit post 500 times or to sell 500 followers on Instagram, boost a TikTok video with 500 views or post 500 comments to YouTube. You can play your YouTube video 500 times and earn money by doing that. Or you could totally kill every Lemmy post critizising the communist party of China by downvoting it 500x and posting 500 negative comments.

And yes, there are thousands of those operations around

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feddit.nu

It's sadly very wrong.

The person selling the hat is also making fun and laughing at you. And has your personal information

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lemmy.zip

A watermark and a social media user, gross.

Back in my day we had standards and people were expected to crop out all that bullshit before posting a meme.

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explodiclereply
sh.itjust.works

The master's tools will never dismantle the master's house. Reach them in the workplace, at home, in actual reality.

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I agree with this. I'll even say fine follow the ugly conventions in those spaces and use watermarks to push people to leftist channels on those platforms.

That said, we are deep in the trenches here in this Lemmy community, not in the friendly outreach programs, so when dropping your meme here specifically, crop that bullshit out.

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You should watch the film "Threads" from 1981 I think.

Everyone should watch "Threads", the film from 1981 I think.

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This is what I fucking hate about these dumb cunts. They're all like "BOF PARTYS DUH SEYM!", and they vote for the objectively worse alternative every single time.

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tomiantreply
piefed.social

One guy is a middle aged state clerk doing what he can.

The other guy is a serial repeat offender rapist burglar violent pedophile that shits in your mouth and tells you to like it or gonna shoot you.

And without fail you vote for the rapist burglar violent pedophile every single time. "Both parties" my cunt, you're just a fascist bootlicker and for some reason you can't even admit it or stand for your beliefs, you are so pathetic you try to excuse the vomit that infests your soul by blaming others for not being as big of a degenerate as you are.

Just get fucked, we're done playing that game.

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It's so fucking obvious that we only have one real choice, because of FPTP! Someone who's doing what he can should voice any opposition whatsoever to this blindingly obvious problem.

Any degenerate who pretends to not know what FPTP forces us to do is clearly in favor of its fascist result.

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