MAGA site took money to unmask Charlie Kirk critics—then vanished
A pro-MAGA website that urged supporters to fund a database unmasking Charlie Kirk critics took tens of thousands in crypto—then vanished, infuriating donors.
The site, Expose Charlie’s Murderers, launched hours after the assassination of the right-wing influencer, 31, in September. It promised a searchable trove of names and workplaces for “the largest firing operation in history,” according to Drop Site’s review of the now-offline project.
The site listed six crypto wallets and raised more than $30,000 between Sept. 12 and 14 before repeatedly going dark, resurfacing as the “Charlie Kirk Data Foundation,” and disappearing again, Drop Site reported.
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I should seriously just start grifting maga people. It seems really easy.
I wanna make a site that promises the same shit, then let people donate a bunch collect all their info, then accidentally leak everything, showing who these fascist are that donate to shit like this.
Don’t sell the data. Make a site and grift. Shut down that site, create another grifting site and directly contact people who already gave you money. No need to cold call.
This is why one of the most valuable things scammers have are lists of people who have fallen for their scams. Getting out of the business? Sell it. Need more money? Do another run
I mean you could but I doubt anyone would care enough to have any meaningful impact on these peoples lives. Idk maybe I’m wrong.
Not in this administration, but hopefully the next will lock up the more egregious offenders and this could just be one more nail in their figurative coffin.
Seeing what the democrats have been doing in the past, do you think that’s even realistic to assume they would pursue something like that? I hard doubt they would.
The old school style ones, no. But I'm hoping more and more progressives take up positions within the party, and - along with those older ones dying off - transform it to what it should have been for some time now. To me, the positive attention Mamdani's been getting across the country shows there's a good chance for that to happen.
If the data gets around I bet it could hurt their relationships with family and friends. Yeah, no legal consequences, but probably social ones.
And their businesses if they're business owners.
Congrats, you figured out how to be a Republican politician
Yeah, if you have no morals, you can go far in this life as a Republican grifter.
If Trump can fool them, you can too.
It's like the '80s all over again, just with grifters learning from Trump.
Exactly. He was able to sell them shitty watches and "collectible" JPGs, LOL.
I’ve been saying for years that with my skillset, I could easily be a millionaire if my pesky ethics didn’t get in the way.
And instead, here I am, every month, deciding cat food is more important than my own food.
Hey, on the chance you aren't joking, most food banks I'm familiar with serve everyone, no questions. Well they might ask how many in your household to make sure to give you enough food.
I’m not joking, and thanks.
Let's be fair, it's because you can hear their tiny, insistent voices in your head, slinking their purring opinions along your trail of thought as you weigh the options mid-aisle... Clever li'l devils, and precious idiots, all. 😅🤪
Not like anyone ever seems to get punished for it
Hell, Bannon got a pardon from that exact crime
Like those 4patriots over priced survival kits and power stations. Ha ha. What a ripoff.
I want to but every idea I have feels too stupid to work.
Something like this has happened like 20 times that im aware of since the whole maga bullshit started. I’m beginning to think no idea is too stupid to work.
The problem comes down to knowing how to speak their language in such a way as to manipulate them. Problem is that for many such actions are vile to no end, or are so against their fundamental cultural, philosophical, or religious tenants so as to be completely repulsive on instinct.
I may be a bastard but I ain't that type of bastard and I won't sully my name for for such a pitance.
The beauty of it is, no matter how stupid your idea seems, they are even stupider.
This is an outrage, and shady as fuck, and these scammers need to be hunted down to face justice.
If you're a MAGA faithful who has been ripped off by these charlatans, I have some sophisticated tracking software that uses quantum AI to uncover scam tracks. Just send me a private message with your credit card number, expiry date, and the three numbers on the back, and I will take care of things.
Had me in the first half
Send me a DM with your banking info, and I'll subscribe you to my Never Get Had in the First Half cyber protection service.
Which is also quantum.
Oh well if it's very smol
Is it modern?
Why is it also a soda? Like I ain't complaining but naming something quantum is like naming it baja blast.
Weird roleplay aside baja blast is 100 percent IRL nuka cola quantum.
DO NOT REDEEM!!!!!!
Like taking candy from a baby
Grifters gonna grift.
Maybe we should start a new website to solicit donations to unmask the people who ran the previous grift site. Then, when we have a bunch of money, we close up shop and make up some bullshit about how we couldn't find them. /s
We sacked the grifters who grifted the first grifters
This is great, but it's interesting to me that this is almost the opposite of how Trump stands, weirdly sticking his belly button forward so you can't see how fat he is as easily.
Being maga and getting scammed. Name a better pair.
I wish I had thought of that
I'm gullible, does that mean I get my asshole milked too 🥺
Sorry; the sphincter, itself, must be gullible, to qualify. The rest of the body/person is irrelevant.
This discerning, intelligent sphincter is such a curse.
It's technically a crime, but somehow I don't feel sorry for the victims.
A fool and their money are soon parted
Imagine caring so much about a podbro.
IKR? That's what boggles the mind. I best most wingers, even some of the terminally online, didn't know or GAF about this guy before he got shot. And now they are all butthurt about a dude they didn't even know before...
As I've said before, when he got shot, I cannot count how many times someone in my life asked, "Charlie who?" or later said they had no idea who he even was....he had 3.8 million followers, which sounds like a lot, but many of those could be bots (there are entire systems to get "followers" that you can buy in various places). We have no idea if those numbers reflect actual people and that's worldwide.
2x that number showed up to No Kings last weekend. That's real people, in person and in one country. For the people carrying this weird torch for some Nazi influencer....someone needs to sit them down and tell them to stop trying to make "Kirk" happen. They can make statues and name streets after him, but seriously? No one is really going to remember much about this guy....
Totally agree. As a comparsion, I would say he's close in popularity to Hasan Piker on the left who has 3 million followers.
I have a hyper intelligent A.I tracking software to find these swindlers. If you wanna sighn up, it's only 100 dollars.
Wait – a right-wing org used their ideology to fleece people?!?
I am shocked.
Assumption's doing some heavy lifting there, friend.
Where was my assumption, friend?
Was it not a right wing org, or did they not defraud people? Because both were made pretty clear in the article.
Point to where my comment touched you.
I was implying (like a number of other comments here) that anyone could accomplish similar. Simmer, kitten. Your roar is totally scary. Trust.
I think people assumed you were throwing out a conspiracy theory in support of MAGA rather than just saying anyone can grift. Honestly kinda funny if they weren't right wing
That's what I get for commenting half-awake. I was vibing on the influx of comments ~"if it weren't for my morals...", etc. 🙇🏼♂️🥹🤷🏼♂️
It’s fine, we’re good. Sorry for coming out with the claws, I thought you were a MAGA troll. I also shouldn’t post drunk.
Fuck, most normal Americans who are presented with things that Kirk has actually said would be "critics".
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Unironically wish I had thought about this first. I could use an extra $30k.
Is it too late to do it again? Just asking for a friend
Are you really asking if you can run the same grift on the "fell for it, again" crowd a second time?
Theres grifters for everyone. Black Lives Matter, super important thing that happened. Still had grifters abuse it for their own gain. Christ, even Pepsi tried to get in on out, but were called out for basically implying that racist cops could be cured by drinking a fucking pepsi...
And how many companies every year sell pink and rainbow merch, only to pocket most or all of the profits?
Wounded Warrior project. Supposed to be about the wounded vets, instead it was about filling other peoples pockets.
And of course, the cream of the crop, televangelists... "I need a plane!!!!"
Remember #metoo? But do you also remember the times up foundation, that was supposedly set up to get victims legal support? Yeah, you guessed it. Nothing but a grift for hollywood types to show how they were the "good ones" while taking money and resources away from actual victims. Never forget the name Roberta Caplan. The chair of the times up board, who was only too happy to help in drafting letters that would discredit Andrew Cuomos accusers. Tina Tchen, the CEO, also helped Cuomo during that time.
No matter what the issue is, no matter which way you lean, there will always, ALWAYS, be someone ready and willing to take your fucking money, and spend on fast cars and loose women.
Don't even get me started on that bullshit. They fund peanuts in research, and a very moderate amount to 'helping' people with breast cancer. The 'goal' of the organization is literally in the tagline: raise breast cancer awareness. That's it. The absolutely insane amount of visibility they get (because who cares about the nearly $200 million in money they [currently] bring in, right? Don't even worry about that amount) is the only point. My mother reached out to them when she found out she had breast cancer, and the best they could do was suggest she pick up the pamphlets at the oncologist's office.
Wait, what? Breast cancer is a thing now?
Thank goodness for these awareness charities, I was completely unaware! /s
Eh. I'll defend them on this one. When they started it was a thing not talked about, mammograms were not as known, and there was definitely a stigma around it. At this point though? Yeah, we can move on from just raising awareness.
A charity that raises money for prevention or treatment inherently raises awareness though.
These kinds of "charities" use this "awareness" grey area to avoid being held accountable for actually achieving anything of substance. It's all just to rake in money and sell people mass produced garbage with their branding on it.
Skittles a couple years ago: white packaging, "you're the only rainbow that matters" to queer people
Skittles today: now DEI free
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This is glorious, now say it with me folks. Right wingers ALWAYS contradict themselves
I wish I had thought of that.
Right? I hope they were lefties.
Someone is surprised? It's a grift. It's always a grift.
Well, MAGA are a bunch of fuckin rubes. Sounds like a good time to be a carnie.
You all know about the Salem witch trials right. ? (This is relevant, I promise).
So I always figured if I had been accused of witch craft, firstly I would admit it immediately, cause they would just torture me until I did, so may as well spare myself having my fingernails pulled off or whatever it is they would do.
But I figured I'd take down as many as I could.
First I'd give them this grand salacious spicy story of doing it with the devil in the woods. First I'd mention one of the other gals who has already been convicted of being a witch (to give me some credibility). She was definitely there.
But then.. I'd start mentioning some other women.
Wives. Daughters. Of the clergy. The women who were pushing for my arrest. I'd say we had a Satan orgy.
Might throw in some details about her nipples or pubic hair that would likely be true. But purely a guess. Just to prove I had seen her naked.
If I knew of any birth marks or something I'd def use that.
As my story grew I would add more and more names. The story would be so suspenseful. So much detail. It would have to be true.
And that's how I'd take the whole lot of them down with me.
Why do I share this historic revenge fantasy with you all.?
Why because we could apply it to any modern situation with the gop crackdown on dissenters and antifa.
They want to come after us. Interrogate us.
Give them likely credible accomplices who are already flagged. But then start leaking in their own.
Causing suspicion. Causing doubt. Paranoia.
Take them all down with you.
Admit you were doing whatever they accused you of. But insist you have accomplices from their side. Have somethinh prepared a head of time to look credible. Like dates they were in specific locations and such.
I feel like I have to explain myself a bit because this all sounds rather dark.
-Im actually a really friendly pleasant person most of the time. but I have a very strong aversion to injustice (especially to vulnerable people,) and I typically support vigilantes (when the system fails them).
Idk. When I was a kid learning about the Salem witch trials and Anne Frank. I thought. What could these women had done differently to at least take the bad guys out on their way out?
If I recall. Part of the reason the witch hunting stopped was because women would do as I suggested. They started naming high ranking women as collaborators and even some of the men.
Start a website. Name obvious leftest who are anti Kirk.
But then start leaking in their own members.
Definitely ask for donations.
Bravo. But you would have to add in the grifter donations at the end, most definitely.
Otherwise they would sniff it out.
Yes. And we could donate to food banks or something.
Also the best way to fake an affiliation is to copy a real one and change a few things.
It looks legit if it was from a legit source. (I'm not going to say why I know this works but it works very well if you do it the way I instruct).
Copy paragraphs from proud boys and heritage foundation sites. They all plagiarize so no shame in us doing it to them. Change out some images. Keep to the same styles on the maga affiliation websites. They have styles and trends. Follow them.
When you try to fake an identity , it's often influenced by your stereotypes you hold about that group. And it will show. It's why under cover cops can so easily be spotted by some of us.
They look like 40 year old men trying to "look cool" based on what they think drug culture thinks is cool. It's rather amusing and they stick out to anyone who can recognize them.
But we have to be concerned about something similar.
I don't think most maga are smart enough to recognize fake websites. Like .. they watch fox.
They seem highly gullible. But best to not underestimate them. One smarter dude pointing out some inconsistencies could end the ruse and then they will be on high alert.
Genius.i applaud these guys.
LOL
Good on multiple levels :D
And yet people still dare to say that crypto has no use...
Pity.
Lol, chefs kiss
This was probably run by one of the dumb tRump sons. My money would be on Baron, as the other two are probably not smart enough.
It's ok, Baron has his whole life ahead of him to prove he's dumb. lol
The donors are not actually infuriated. They knew that the site was run by scum ... All of Kirk's retrospective supporters are big fat liars ... but still the donors are hoping to get some sympathy, hoping you'll forget that they don't have an ounce of empathy.
I swear, conservatives are NEVER going to stop taking massive Ls.
When you control the media, you have an endless amounts of ignorant or gullible people to swindle.
You tell 300 million people that a man is a gang member, a criminal, a terrible person and they are the cause of the problems around you. They are the reason you see murders on the news everyday.
You don't need evidence, you just say it. Then Noem says it, then some random racist cherry picks incidents to show as evidence. Fox focuses all their interviews around pointing blame at them without usually actually saying it directly. Newsmax repeats it. CBS, NBC, CNN all call them alleged criminals.
So 300 million people keep hearing and seeing it and some start to repeat it. Still without any actual evidence. And you are giving people an easy way out. My problems aren't my own, the people who are around me are struggling because *checks notes.. the people who were causing less crime, oops can't say that. The people who are different than me, are causing it. Some of them even have their own cultures or languages that I don't understand! It must be their fault. It wasn't like this when people grew up in (pulls out rose tinted glasses and makes excuses for everything bad that happened during those times).
Life only gets worse as wealth becomes scarce. Wealth becomes scarce for the majority when it gets hoarded by the few.
Why did life appear to get better for a number of years, what was the great depression, maybe charts like these show something...
It should be 90% of the population voting to spread the wealth. Yet with the media controlled by the wealthy, we are easier to manipulate
MAGAts are just so damn gullible. They fell for the same thing with Bannon’s Trump Wall donations and then he vanished with the money. Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice …