Yeah I didn't see it until it looked at this picture a third time. I didn't realize at first that this is actually Adam Ellis cause the art style is so different than his usual stuff.
I mean, to be fair, I get that this is a joke... But I look at all the shit in my flat I think 90% of this is clutter. I'm still trying to get rid of my sofa, but it's hard to do for cheap when I don't drive.
I've seen so many flats full of so many little tchotchkes and doodads and superfluous whatevers, and it sort of makes me feel that some people decorate their homes for other people - which is absolutely fine - whereas some people decorate their homes for themselves - which is also fine.
Nothing wrong with a simple life. Maybe get a stand for the fleshlight though, I feel like it would pick up dirt and dust and hair from the carpet like that. 🫡
Man, learning my house should be for me is something I wish I'd known sooner.
For years I had a spare bedroom that was barely used, maybe slept in 15 nights a year.
I had it only because I felt like that's the normal thing to do if you have a space for a spare room. That's what people expect of you.
Meanwhile I'm doing soldering projects on my kitchen table as the only suitable surface in the house, shoving resistors and electronic components out of the way every evening so I can make space to eat.
And then I finally realised, I need to prioritise my utility, not that of other people. I have a massive couch - when a friend wants to stay over they can sleep on there, and be perfectly comfortable!
So I donated the spare bed to charity, turned the room into a space for projects with a huge desk, and I'm so much happier for it.
I thought long and hard about the best approach, but that just wasn't feasible.
My couch may be big, but the house in general is very small, and is 120 years old so it comes with architectural oddities and features that must be worked around.
The room in question has a chimney breast against one long wall, at one side of which is a built-in wardrobe which also houses my central heating boiler and plumbing, and at the other side of which are integrated shelves and storage.
Of the other three walls, the room is quite narrow, so the "short ends" (one of which has the window anyway) are too short to do anything with, leaving only one wall left to go at - which also has the door on it, further cutting down on usable space.
So it was really a choice - a bed, or a desk.
My couch genuinely is comfy to sleep on though. You can lie totally flat on it even if you're six-foot-some :)
Hell yes, friend. And off you aren't already, apply that to everything and everyone in your life!
After living in a mostly untouched house for over a decade, now in the past few years I've been going nuts making it suit the personalities and habits of my family.
In my case, I think the old bullshit attitude was driven both by our hyper capitalist greedy individualistic conservative culture (why yes I'm in the USA) and wholesome traditional catholic guilt and self-denial.
How truly fucked it is that we live in a world where people will limit their life experiences in their own home for decades, just so that they can believe that after they die their home sells for 10% more.
Meanwhile I'm over here having my back yard turned into an active construction site all year, but that hasn't hurt the enjoyment of my family or my numerous pets, and the next decade in that yard is going to be awesome.
Maybe this is a language barrier, I genuinely don't understand what is "unserious" about not having a bedside table/lamp. I haven't had nor have I needed or missed a bedside table/lamp in four years. I don't think that either of those are essentials, honestly! I can take pride in my living space without filling it with things I don't want, need, or use.
Ah, I think that's where I was getting confused - "serious" to me isn't quite the same as "sincere", so I understood "unserious" to mean like, "silly" but in a goofy kinda way. I get what you're saying now!
you got an active freecycle board in your location? or a thrift store you can call and ask them if they'd pick up a couch because you are not a bicycle?
I used to live like this, but it would never in a million years have occurred to me that criticism of that lifestyle would be the problem rather than the lifestyle itself. I was always fully aware of how fucked-up and indefensible it was.
I'm willing to get upset about this if anyone needs the comfort Reddit normal brings. I definitely think this if hilarious but I promise I won't show it if my service is required. 🤣
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What does the apartment feel like?
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The apartment depicted in the comic feels cluttered and chaotic. There's a strong sense of disorganization, with items scattered everywhere, including snacks, cat toys, and miscellaneous clutter.
Atmosphere
Messy and Chaotic: The floor is covered in wrappers and other things, suggesting neglect in tidiness.
Casual and Comfortable: The presence of the relaxed man in a worn shirt and surrounded by cats indicates a laid-back environment, perhaps too comfortable to worry about cleaning.
Elements
Multiple Cats: Indicates that the space is homey, though the presence of several cats might contribute to the mess.
Dim Lighting: The overall ambiance suggests a lack of bright, inviting colors, creating a more subdued and somewhat gloomy feel.
Overall, the apartment feels lived-in and a bit eccentric, characterized by a blend of comfort and chaos.
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This comic strip is a joke based on the contrast between a character's description of his apartment and what it actually looks like.
In the first panel, a man is inviting a woman into his apartment, claiming he is "super into minimalism" and has a "zen atmosphere." He is setting up an expectation for a clean, stylish, and uncluttered living space.
The second panel reveals the interior of the apartment, which is sparsely furnished but messy. The room contains a mattress on the floor, a single chair, a television, and a poster of the anime Naruto on the wall. The humor comes from the fact that his apartment is not a curated, minimalist space, but rather a simple room that just happens to have very little furniture. The presence of the Naruto poster is also a visual joke, as it contrasts with the "zen atmosphere" he described. The man is likely misinterpreting being a minimalist with simply having very few possessions.
Not bad but probably burned way more coal in the process>
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This comic plays with expectations in a clever, visual punchline. The woman expresses her love for minimalism and zen design, setting up an image of sleek, curated interiors. But when they enter the man's apartment, it's minimalism in the most literal—and hilariously underwhelming—sense: a bare mattress, a lawn chair, and a single poster of cartoonish musclemen.
The humor hinges on the contrast between aesthetic minimalism and practical minimalism. It’s a wink at how people interpret trends differently, and maybe a gentle roast of bachelor pads everywhere. If you’re into visual storytelling or comic timing, this one nails it with just two panels. Want to explore more comics with this kind of humor or dig into minimalist design tropes?
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Nah, if they’re getting offended, it’s probably actual dumbfucks. Makes sense though. The comic is accurate, although someone who looks like Chad there is probably gonna have a lot nicer apartment.
Reminds me of a greentext of a dude that didn't get laid because a spider scared the girl off. He killed the spider, only to later find out the girl had some DST. He mourned spiderbro.
The on-set intimacy coordinator gave me the go ahead! They said, in fact, "squish that spider or so help me you're going to NEED a paid professional to conduct intimacy in this bedroom".
Trying to frame his slobbishness as "minimalism". Prioritizing a games console and immature Naruto poster over bed sheets. Fleshlight just left out on the floor. Boasting about his apartment when there's less than nothing there.
The lack of bedsheets really gets to me, more than anything else. I’m okay with minimalism, but sleeping on the same fabric all the time without being able to clean it… not great.
You did notice more detail than I did. My critique was just based on:
Mattress on the floor (not bad in any way).
TV and game console, if that's important to you. (I don't have either, but I don't hate).
Mattresses on the floor go mouldy underneath. The main point of a bed frame is air flow, the secondary point of them is to make you not look like a slob.
What's peoples problem with sleeping on the floor. I want to upgrade my futon to a Japanese futon so I can fold it up when I'm not using it. Though I'm definitely weird, my back does not like any support
Bro if you wanna live like you’re camping in a tent fine but don’t expect people to like it. I mean not even a sheet? Nothing? How does he wash it? If you can’t even wash the top the layer why on earth should anyone want to sleep on it? At least with the Japanese futon, if you do it right, it can look nice and purposeful but even then you should have real sheets for it and it can be rolled up, unlike this thing. I know someone who does the futon thing and their place is actually pretty nice and purposeful, not cobbled together garbage.
Even brand new an Ikea Tarva frame just isn’t that expensive and it’s nice, solid wood. I replaced the legs with $8 of 2x2 from Home depot so it’s nice and tall for me since I’m tall and hate having to get UP out of bed.
The biggest reason, of course, is because it almost always comes with an overarching theme of disgusting living habits. It’s not great on its own but when it brings all its dirty-ass friends you’re in for a bad time.
How many assumptions am I making? Everyone I’ve known to sleep with a mattress on the floor is at least minorly gross, and I made exceptions for a properly used Japanese futon.
And as far as the guy in the comic is concerned it’s got that energy of those dudes who go on social media and proudly claim that it’s “normal” to shit their pants and have dirty skid-marked underwear. It’s not “minimalism” if it’s less of a choice and more a complete lack of ability.
he is fictional friendo, and so is the potential sex partner you are describing lmao, I have mine already :) lol and someone who is dedicated to their body looks better, performs better and is likely more experience in bed, which was the entire point. sorry you missed it. but you are LOVED lmao cya
I'm older and experienced and can say with confidence that no, most women are not into literal bodybuilder guys. Some, surely. But most? No. Ideal is in shape but not obsessive, bodybuilder looks obsessive.
And the wyvern is correct IMO it is the same as the absolutely jacked women. Most guys are not into bodybuilder ladies, probably for the same reason.
Fitness looks good on everyone. Obsession with getting big muscles, doping, extreme builds are not mainstream attractive. That has gone past general health and fitness.
Respectful disagree on all counts (except older... I don't know how old you are). Doping? It's a comic, lol, he's a fictional person with a superhero physique.
The guy in the image was chosen poorly for the reasons I laid out, I won't repeat them. The image would have been funny if he didn't have a perfect body.
Anyways, you're welcome to your opinion "old timer" have a blessed one
Hey I missed that on the first glance. checks
This is a retired meme you brought back from the past lol
There's still some magic left in these ancient texts
That's not a flashlight.
It's flashing me tho?
If it winks you should start running.
The fleshlight in the corner almost escaped my notice
Yeah I didn't see it until it looked at this picture a third time. I didn't realize at first that this is actually Adam Ellis cause the art style is so different than his usual stuff.
Incredible, thank you I hadn't noticed
He should have put this in the box and he would have been golden.
😂🤣
I mean, to be fair, I get that this is a joke... But I look at all the shit in my flat I think 90% of this is clutter. I'm still trying to get rid of my sofa, but it's hard to do for cheap when I don't drive.
I've seen so many flats full of so many little tchotchkes and doodads and superfluous whatevers, and it sort of makes me feel that some people decorate their homes for other people - which is absolutely fine - whereas some people decorate their homes for themselves - which is also fine.
Nothing wrong with a simple life. Maybe get a stand for the fleshlight though, I feel like it would pick up dirt and dust and hair from the carpet like that. 🫡
Man, learning my house should be for me is something I wish I'd known sooner.
For years I had a spare bedroom that was barely used, maybe slept in 15 nights a year.
I had it only because I felt like that's the normal thing to do if you have a space for a spare room. That's what people expect of you.
Meanwhile I'm doing soldering projects on my kitchen table as the only suitable surface in the house, shoving resistors and electronic components out of the way every evening so I can make space to eat.
And then I finally realised, I need to prioritise my utility, not that of other people. I have a massive couch - when a friend wants to stay over they can sleep on there, and be perfectly comfortable!
So I donated the spare bed to charity, turned the room into a space for projects with a huge desk, and I'm so much happier for it.
You could always set up the spare room as a hobby space that also has a bed. That's what I did with my spare room.
Alternatively to that, you could also just have a cot folded and tucked away
I thought long and hard about the best approach, but that just wasn't feasible.
My couch may be big, but the house in general is very small, and is 120 years old so it comes with architectural oddities and features that must be worked around.
The room in question has a chimney breast against one long wall, at one side of which is a built-in wardrobe which also houses my central heating boiler and plumbing, and at the other side of which are integrated shelves and storage.
Of the other three walls, the room is quite narrow, so the "short ends" (one of which has the window anyway) are too short to do anything with, leaving only one wall left to go at - which also has the door on it, further cutting down on usable space.
So it was really a choice - a bed, or a desk.
My couch genuinely is comfy to sleep on though. You can lie totally flat on it even if you're six-foot-some :)
if you can manage it, murphy beds are great for hobby rooms
It is difficult to escape one's social programming.
Hell yes, friend. And off you aren't already, apply that to everything and everyone in your life!
After living in a mostly untouched house for over a decade, now in the past few years I've been going nuts making it suit the personalities and habits of my family.
In my case, I think the old bullshit attitude was driven both by our hyper capitalist greedy individualistic conservative culture (why yes I'm in the USA) and wholesome traditional catholic guilt and self-denial.
How truly fucked it is that we live in a world where people will limit their life experiences in their own home for decades, just so that they can believe that after they die their home sells for 10% more.
Meanwhile I'm over here having my back yard turned into an active construction site all year, but that hasn't hurt the enjoyment of my family or my numerous pets, and the next decade in that yard is going to be awesome.
Actually, a little hair on the fleshlight makes it more realistic, fyi.
If your getting rid of sofa. Just break it up with a hammer and saw into small pieces and send it out a bit at a time with the regular trash.
Yeah, just like how Jeffrey Dahmer did it.
I wouldn't recommend eating the couch tho.
JD Vance recommends impregnating one instead.
why destroy a functional sofa??
Maybe this is a language barrier, I genuinely don't understand what is "unserious" about not having a bedside table/lamp. I haven't had nor have I needed or missed a bedside table/lamp in four years. I don't think that either of those are essentials, honestly! I can take pride in my living space without filling it with things I don't want, need, or use.
Oh I see, so it's "unserious" because they are uncomfortable being serious about what they want?
Ah, I think that's where I was getting confused - "serious" to me isn't quite the same as "sincere", so I understood "unserious" to mean like, "silly" but in a goofy kinda way. I get what you're saying now!
My decorations are too embarrassing to be seen by others. The rest is junk.
I am at a point where I say don't gift me anything anymore. I don't want to buy anything either.
I just want to throw half the crap in the cellar. Maybe I will.
you got an active freecycle board in your location? or a thrift store you can call and ask them if they'd pick up a couch because you are not a bicycle?
I've put it up on nextdoor! But no takers. The charity places I've tried won't take it, it's missing a fire safety label and it's upholstered 😬
That's a fleshlight by his bed, isn't it?
Don't worry, he rinses it off before he uses it each time
Wait. Before?
You heard me.
Fill it with water beforehand and she's positively gushing for you.
At least not a coconut with a hole in it
If I still had the opportunity to meet women, they'd see this
i only count 9 cats hard pass. get more cats and try again
I see 10 cats, there might be more
oh nevermind i'll date anyone who's got ten cats (as long as they don't mind me dating the cats too)
a cat is fine too
I thought cats cant eat m&ms isn't this horribly dangerous
I make a special type of M&M, like kopi luak coffee. I only harvest the M&Ms that make it out the cat intact. Wanna try?
Big mistake, buy them after Halloween when they're on clearance
Eat these old smarties on the ground before buying new ones. Terrible with money...
Those are M&Ms
Things have different names around the world. They're m&ms sure but its an understandable mistake
Granddroids is incredible, I love it
What is the offensive part?
I used to live like this, but it would never in a million years have occurred to me that criticism of that lifestyle would be the problem rather than the lifestyle itself. I was always fully aware of how fucked-up and indefensible it was.
I'm a bit flabbergasted just, is the gripe that this guy has hooked up with a girl? That it has the gaul to portray how intersex relations used to be?
That's really sad. I wish I could show them how to get out even though that's exactly what the manosphere grifters prey on
Good that sounds absolutely awesome. I am certain you actually did save a few lives. 💛
I'm willing to get upset about this if anyone needs the comfort Reddit normal brings. I definitely think this if hilarious but I promise I won't show it if my service is required. 🤣
Idk, is computer vision good enough to recognize what the apartment feels like?
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::: spoiler Text C/P What does the apartment feel like?
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The apartment depicted in the comic feels cluttered and chaotic. There's a strong sense of disorganization, with items scattered everywhere, including snacks, cat toys, and miscellaneous clutter. Atmosphere
Elements
Overall, the apartment feels lived-in and a bit eccentric, characterized by a blend of comfort and chaos. :::
I tried Gemini:
Not bad but probably burned way more coal in the process>
Huh, none of these AIs picked up on the fleshlight.
Why would a machine see a problem with that
Copilot via Edge xD
::: spoiler Text This comic plays with expectations in a clever, visual punchline. The woman expresses her love for minimalism and zen design, setting up an image of sleek, curated interiors. But when they enter the man's apartment, it's minimalism in the most literal—and hilariously underwhelming—sense: a bare mattress, a lawn chair, and a single poster of cartoonish musclemen.
The humor hinges on the contrast between aesthetic minimalism and practical minimalism. It’s a wink at how people interpret trends differently, and maybe a gentle roast of bachelor pads everywhere. If you’re into visual storytelling or comic timing, this one nails it with just two panels. Want to explore more comics with this kind of humor or dig into minimalist design tropes? :::
Woah, that's surprisingly good and very different from @[email protected]'s results.
Nah, if they’re getting offended, it’s probably actual dumbfucks. Makes sense though. The comic is accurate, although someone who looks like Chad there is probably gonna have a lot nicer apartment.
Edit: accidentally miswrote the last sentence.
Xbox360 at least he‘s playing good games.
GRRRRRRRRRRRIND
Minimalism is a ploy by big small to sell more less
This should be graffitid on a wall somewhere
Wait ✋️ ..... I ....... fuck math checks out?
And he till gonna tear it up on that roach bed
Gotta get the mattress off the floor so the spiders don't come to cuddle at night.
And maybe a houseplant for atmosphere.
looks like we found the dude who hates friendly cuddles.
Reminds me of a greentext of a dude that didn't get laid because a spider scared the girl off. He killed the spider, only to later find out the girl had some DST. He mourned spiderbro.
that spider was saving bro.
bro didn't deserve that spider
Friendly cuddles without consent? That's assault, brother!
I'm pretty sure the spider consented.
you know where they wasn't consent? when they killed that spider
The on-set intimacy coordinator gave me the go ahead! They said, in fact, "squish that spider or so help me you're going to NEED a paid professional to conduct intimacy in this bedroom".
I'd rather keep the spider alive than getting laid with someone who demands I kill a spider for sex.
look the spiderhomies need their good night kisses
But the spiders eat the bedbugs?
Sounds like something Dear Modern would say XD
Minimalism would reduce the wires. Push the TV and console against the wall to hide the cords.
The zen atmosphere got so intense he couldn't spend even thirty seconds tidying
Other than "m'lady," I fail to see a problem...
Trying to frame his slobbishness as "minimalism". Prioritizing a games console and immature Naruto poster over bed sheets. Fleshlight just left out on the floor. Boasting about his apartment when there's less than nothing there.
The lack of bedsheets really gets to me, more than anything else. I’m okay with minimalism, but sleeping on the same fabric all the time without being able to clean it… not great.
Little did you know, he have ten mattresses in a second room, that cycles regularly and are steam cleaned. Maybe.
Spent the entire budget on that.
Silly human, I clearly see more than nothing!
You did notice more detail than I did. My critique was just based on: Mattress on the floor (not bad in any way). TV and game console, if that's important to you. (I don't have either, but I don't hate).
I did not look closely enough to see the cringe.
Mattresses on the floor go mouldy underneath. The main point of a bed frame is air flow, the secondary point of them is to make you not look like a slob.
Depends on the flooring. Never had a mattress go mouldy on wooden floors.
XBox 360
Clearly a man of tastes
At least make the bed you heathen.
No that's inefficient
Where is the weight set?
TV
He didn't get ripped watching the tv
Look at the muscles on that man though he has his priorities straight.
No lie detected!
What's the point of that "nightstand" box besides his bed, though? He should use it as a TV stand.
It's a footlocker.
Better be running Linux on that Console for the minimalist approach.
Actually, it runs FreeBSD
Not minimalist enough: it actually runs NetBSD.
It just runs on S
Ew, he's poor! /s
He is in Unit 6 7 ... 🙃
Maybe he was expecting her to bring two friends
What's peoples problem with sleeping on the floor. I want to upgrade my futon to a Japanese futon so I can fold it up when I'm not using it. Though I'm definitely weird, my back does not like any support
It's fine when you're young.
When you get older, the ability to roll your feet off the bed and easily stand up is clutch.
Most mattresses require ventilation.
That dude doesn't even own a top sheet. That's disgusting.
Bet if you lifted it, you'd smell straight ass and see mold.
I did that a lot, one advantage of a bedframe is the storage you get underneath.
Problem is humidity under your mattress. Japanese daily move the mattress so they don't have that problem.
Completely fucks my back up, for starters
funny, I grew up hearing that sleeping flat on the floor is good for your back.
likely bs, just funny
My back does so much better on the floor than a fancy mattress. Everyone is different.
Bro if you wanna live like you’re camping in a tent fine but don’t expect people to like it. I mean not even a sheet? Nothing? How does he wash it? If you can’t even wash the top the layer why on earth should anyone want to sleep on it? At least with the Japanese futon, if you do it right, it can look nice and purposeful but even then you should have real sheets for it and it can be rolled up, unlike this thing. I know someone who does the futon thing and their place is actually pretty nice and purposeful, not cobbled together garbage.
Even brand new an Ikea Tarva frame just isn’t that expensive and it’s nice, solid wood. I replaced the legs with $8 of 2x2 from Home depot so it’s nice and tall for me since I’m tall and hate having to get UP out of bed.
The biggest reason, of course, is because it almost always comes with an overarching theme of disgusting living habits. It’s not great on its own but when it brings all its dirty-ass friends you’re in for a bad time.
Lots of assumptions here unless you're only talking about the guy in the comic.
How many assumptions am I making? Everyone I’ve known to sleep with a mattress on the floor is at least minorly gross, and I made exceptions for a properly used Japanese futon.
And as far as the guy in the comic is concerned it’s got that energy of those dudes who go on social media and proudly claim that it’s “normal” to shit their pants and have dirty skid-marked underwear. It’s not “minimalism” if it’s less of a choice and more a complete lack of ability.
That's a bit crowded. Is that a makeshift night stand? Clutter!
me when I shower and put on deodorant
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His hands are sexy
why would you care what his bedroom looks like if he's built like that
It shows how much effort he puts into other aspects of his life.
Good luck getting this guy to give you an orgasm unless neglect is your kink.
what are you talking about? he's jacked. he's dedicated to his body, which you use for sex, not his interior decorating
You said it yourself. He's dedicated to HIS body - not yours.
he is fictional friendo, and so is the potential sex partner you are describing lmao, I have mine already :) lol and someone who is dedicated to their body looks better, performs better and is likely more experience in bed, which was the entire point. sorry you missed it. but you are LOVED lmao cya
.... What? Why are you making this suddenly personal?
Because that's the kind of body guys think is hot and for women is like being into extreme muscle mommies.
It's alright for some but most prefer something else.
Not exactly accurate lmao "extreme muscle mommies" isn't the most commonly desired body type. The guy in the comic is
I'm older and experienced and can say with confidence that no, most women are not into literal bodybuilder guys. Some, surely. But most? No. Ideal is in shape but not obsessive, bodybuilder looks obsessive.
And the wyvern is correct IMO it is the same as the absolutely jacked women. Most guys are not into bodybuilder ladies, probably for the same reason.
Fitness looks good on everyone. Obsession with getting big muscles, doping, extreme builds are not mainstream attractive. That has gone past general health and fitness.
Respectful disagree on all counts (except older... I don't know how old you are). Doping? It's a comic, lol, he's a fictional person with a superhero physique.
The guy in the image was chosen poorly for the reasons I laid out, I won't repeat them. The image would have been funny if he didn't have a perfect body.
Anyways, you're welcome to your opinion "old timer" have a blessed one
Okay bro
lol
You know how I know you don't lift?
This.
Everyone with a body worth bragging about has had a moment where they realize they get way more interest from the guys.
Stay in your lane.
I'm a gay man who lifts, dummy. lol
So you couldn't figure it out even with that?
Jesus.