If he had pushed harder and recruited along the way with huge sign up bonuses he may have been somewhat successful. He probably could have taken Moscow... but then he would eventually have to endure a siege after that, which he definitely wouldn't have won.
You don't need to take the whole city, just Putin. And he didn't have many defenses. Russia is very apathetic to who is in charge, they have been trained to uncritically support whoever looks like they're in charge.
Yes and no to that. I can't say if it is the right move for him to reduce the strength of the known conspirators, but on the other hand adding people to that group who weren't fully comitted before.
He moved in towards Moscow, hoping for support from other oligarchs to materialize. It didn't, so he had to pull back. This is the final action of that arc of failure.
How sure are they that he was aboard the doomed plane, on a scale from “he was checked on biometrically and multiple layers of security cameras verified that he couldn’t have disembarked” to “well, he was on the passenger manifest I guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯”?
I have a feeling there might be a bit more thorough of a check this time. You can't really fake your death more than once and people not get suspicious if it happens again.
This isn't surprising (on the contrary, I was constantly surprised while Prigozhin remained alive) but I wouldn't call Putin consolidating power good news.
OTOH, while he’s consolidating power, he’s also cutting off the few remaining sources of information that aren’t sycophants telling him what profits them most. Luckily for him, history has shown that leaders who do this rarely if ever suffer any adverse consequences to their ability to maintain control.
Get fucked you ugly bald war crime cunt. Hopefully, the jet didn't explode but plummeted to the ground with him screaming and shitting his pants all the way.
Cunts like him make me want to believe in hell and sin so much so I can meet him in and kill him again with my bare hands
The guy is no different from tankies, who criticize and oppose western imperialism (rightfully so) and then see the only logical alternative in Stalinism, which is fucking bonkers.
Hahaha.
Also, per the BBC's reporting:
Surprisingly not surprising.
somebody gave girkin one last job
Say what you will about the guy, he's got more experience shooting down civilian jets than almost anyone.
shot down by a moon rocket 🚀
you don't take 16M city with 2500 troops, tf was he thinking
He was expecting people to join him.
A Nazi marching on Moscow.
If he had pushed harder and recruited along the way with huge sign up bonuses he may have been somewhat successful. He probably could have taken Moscow... but then he would eventually have to endure a siege after that, which he definitely wouldn't have won.
You don't need to take the whole city, just Putin. And he didn't have many defenses. Russia is very apathetic to who is in charge, they have been trained to uncritically support whoever looks like they're in charge.
Wagner Channels already announced another March of Justice™ in case Prigozhin bit the dirt.
Ended it with "you better hope he's still alive..."
Edit: Three separate sources confirmed Prigozhin and Utkin dead. Not only Wagnerites but also ultranationalists are calling for blood.
I asked a Finnish fella on NCD if he could make the russians march on moscow again, and he said he'll see what he can do.
Damn guy works fast.
Those Finns don't fuck about do they. Just straight up get on with it, or they'll be late for vodka and sauna.
The Finns are hardcore, the footage from the Winter War is something else: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iw0jwrWqOKI
Don't forget they had the most goated soldier of all time Simo Häyhä.
Forget Simo, celebrate certified meth machine Aimo Koivunen.
~300 fucking close range kills with an SMG after he realized he was the only guy with a working weapon.
I seriously doubt I could have lived with myself after that, but i guess you process things differently in wartime.
Invaders must die.
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I mean, look at my username, I get it.
But it's still a different mindset than I've ever personally been in.
Ah, so THAT'S what air defense doing.
Ukrainian planes scary, they likey civilian planes
There are two wolves in me:
Please be real, i want to see another russian civil war.
Please don't be real, i want him in front of the war criminal tribunal.
Putin's cracking down, I doubt there will be a civil war.
Tread softly, for you tread on my dreams.
Yes and no to that. I can't say if it is the right move for him to reduce the strength of the known conspirators, but on the other hand adding people to that group who weren't fully comitted before.
Civil wars generally happen because someone cracked down.
This is punishment for him attempting a funni.
He moved in towards Moscow, hoping for support from other oligarchs to materialize. It didn't, so he had to pull back. This is the final action of that arc of failure.
Technically it's not yet confirmed, but you know what? The demorilisation this causes is worth it to me
Boy, have I got good news for you.
I heard that in /veggie tales
How sure are they that he was aboard the doomed plane, on a scale from “he was checked on biometrically and multiple layers of security cameras verified that he couldn’t have disembarked” to “well, he was on the passenger manifest I guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯”?
Made us believe you died once, shame on you.
Made us believe you died twice, shame on me.
I have a feeling there might be a bit more thorough of a check this time. You can't really fake your death more than once and people not get suspicious if it happens again.
bodies of priggo and utkin were already found
This isn't surprising (on the contrary, I was constantly surprised while Prigozhin remained alive) but I wouldn't call Putin consolidating power good news.
OTOH, while he’s consolidating power, he’s also cutting off the few remaining sources of information that aren’t sycophants telling him what profits them most. Luckily for him, history has shown that leaders who do this rarely if ever suffer any adverse consequences to their ability to maintain control.
Technically, he did fall out of a window
on this plane everyone sat next to a window. what a coincidence
Such a shame the plane didn't land on Putin...
That would've been even better than musky and zuckbot punching each other, falling over, and breaking their necks.
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Too bad Putin and Xi weren't on board, too. We could have had five goddamn minutes of peace and quiet.
OMG! Would be the best plane Crash ever.
It's like taking Stalin and Hilter in one hit
putin was in kursk at the time, decorating some tank crew
Get fucked you ugly bald war crime cunt. Hopefully, the jet didn't explode but plummeted to the ground with him screaming and shitting his pants all the way.
Cunts like him make me want to believe in hell and sin so much so I can meet him in and kill him again with my bare hands
It did. There's video. Basically lost one wing and one elevator and pirouetted gravitationally.
Metal.
I condone.
Sooo... You are pro-Putin? This is getting upvoted?
How the fuck did you come to that conclusion???? He went again putin for his own selfish reasons, not because he was good.
Hell, let's play that game. Are you pro prigozhin? Are you pro rape and castration of innocent people? Are you pro genocide?
See how fucking idiotic you sound?
Don't argue.
The guy is no different from tankies, who criticize and oppose western imperialism (rightfully so) and then see the only logical alternative in Stalinism, which is fucking bonkers.
No. I oppose Putin. If this guy is somehow worse I'm very unaware of that. Thanks for being a dick about it.
You really call me a putin supporter and at the same time call me a dick when I defend myself.
Right.
There's a question mark. Wasn't a statement. But yeah looks like the shoe fits
Revenge is a dish served… warm-ish
Revenge is best served at 9.81 m/s^2
Shoigu Prime ammo delivery is exactly two
daysmonthsDo we know which plane he was on? Last I heard one of his planes landed fine