Spyke
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They dragged little Greta [Thunberg] by her hair before our eyes, beat her, and forced her to kiss the Israeli flag. They did everything imaginable to her, as a warning to others,”

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feddit.org

This. Just dropping a quote without a source?

Edit: it is from just that article

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lemmy.world

Of course this isn't acceptable. But it's hardly a balanced report. For instance, she's 22 - hardly a little girl.

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lemmy.world

Oh, so there was another Greta on the boat who was bigger, and they just used big/little to distinguish?
Or were they trying to imply Greta is physically weak, or fits in small places? Wft does is make a difference if she's 'little'? Torturing anyone is bad. I'd say it's especially bad to torture a child; which is what the quote was trying to imply.

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4Robatoreply
lemmy.world

Why do you comment something without reading the article? This is a quote from someone explaining what they saw, not the reporter describing her like that.

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I thought that it was a bit odd wording too based on the quote alone, implying that Greta was some fragile small thing everyone should protect instead of brave young woman that she is. But then I read the article and in context it makes sense, that's something I might say too in the same situation.

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lemmy.world

Of course. And that's the main source the reporter is using, so it's relevant.

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fedia.io

What other source did you want? IDF soldiers explaining how they did nothing to her at all and she deserved every bit of it.

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Well that would likely be even more biased. Yes, it would be good to get a statement from Israel. But just because we can't get unbiased info doesn't mean we should believe everything.

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sh.itjust.works

22 is young, my dude. Isn't that the tragedy we're meant to learn from 2 world wars, that war is a meat grinder for the young?

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I love her so much and this vile cruel disgusting world is going to destroy her for being one of the only people willing to stand up for what's right.

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In all seriousness, the world needs to cut all military, economic, and political ties and support to Israel until they end the genocide and submit to the ICC and ICJ for war crimes and crimes against humanity prosecution. Israel needs to face consequences for every single atrocity they've committed.

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lemmy.world

Every headline I see about this gets more watered down

"Greta forced to use bathroom that hadn't been cleaned in 6 hours, handed towel made in Israel to dry her face"

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure they were pricks to her, but I just saw three stories in a row, one that she had been beaten, one that she had be dragged by her hair, and now this one saying that her cell was dirty and she had to hold flags...

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qevlarrreply
lemmy.world

Good for being critical. Without independent journalism over there, who can really say?

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I also am waiting for real information. I’m very concerned and angry about this, but I don’t want to get sucked into false information.

The solid information we have is plenty horrible enough to be angry about.

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Let’s get our 2A party sticks and some boats and go get her idfk what else to do guys lol

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She doesn't want to be sexualised any further than she she already is.

It is her most innate human right.

Which is to defend, instead of "discussable".

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I don't understand why many of the world's governments keep walking on eggshells around this issue. I assume it's just money. It's always money or influence.

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B0raxreply
feddit.org

Du machst es dir ganz schön einfach. „Die anderen müssen was tun, aber ich nicht. Und jeder der etwas anderes behauptet ist ein Idiot.“

Stark.

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feddit.org

Der Witz ist: Du machst es Dir noch einfacher: Weil Du Dir einbildest, dass dein Papierstrohalm Elon Musks JET's CO²-Austoss behindert.

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B0raxreply
feddit.org

Tut mir leid, aber auf dieser Stammtischparolen-Ebene diskutiere ich nicht mit dir.

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feddit.org

Also trägst Du deren Argumentation ernsthaft ? Weswegen wir im Supermarkt nur "vegane" Kost finden ?

Du nennst das Stammtischparole: Ich nenne das den Grund, weshalb Elon Musk Twitter gekauft hat:

Damit er den Account, der seinen Privatjet sachkonform und rechtlich einwandfrei dokumentiert hat abstellten konnte.

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B0raxreply
feddit.org

Hör auf mir Worte in den Mund zu legen. Die Welt ist nicht schwarz und weiß wie du sie hinstellst.

Natürlich tragen die Superreichen die größte Schuld, aber eben auch beim beeinflussen der Menschen. Und dagegen hilft nur, mitdenken und sich wehren.

Du aber kritisierst die Menschen die aufstehen, die etwas verändern wollen. Die Menschen die sich gegen die Ölindustrie stellen, die anderen Menschen helfen wollen.

Damit stehst du in meinen Augen auf der Seite der Menschen die unsere Welt schlechter machen.

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Da wir in einem System leben ist das tatsächlich möglich. Unglaublich: ABER wahr.

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Aber ich beherrsche Latein. Deswegen brauche ich keine Anglizismen. Außer ich brauche Sie.

I.d.R, berufe ich mich auf Verträge, die Menschen miteinander geschlossen haben:

zum Bleistift die Haager Landkriegskonvention, die explizit den Einsatz von Giftgasen verbietet.

Was dann doch "passiert" ist.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

Passing this through DeepL results in:

My theories about Greta Thunberg are based on diesel exhaust fumes.

End all wars, nationalise arms manufacturers: 70% of climate-damaging emissions will be permanently eliminated.

Simple.

The point about Greta is that a simple person should not sell their conscience.

For me, that was the "message" about her as a person.

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