Why do people keep calling these "Kamikaze"? The point of the Kamikaze was that there was a human pilot inside, who was going on a suicide mission. These are just inanimate things. Drones, cruise missiles, whatever, NOT kamikaze.
Or else I will start calling all bombs, artillery shells, all munitions that destroy themselves at the target, "kamikaze":
"Germany has agreed to send more kamikaze ammunition for the Gepard anti-aircraft systems, along with a number of IRIS-T kamikaze anti-aircraft missiles, and 50 Taurus kamikaze cruise missiles." "The US have announced that they would deliver 15,000 new kamikaze artillery shells to Ukraine."
To me, it makes sense that they don't want to call it a missile unless it has a rocket or other type of powerful engine. Drones are things that I expect to have the ability to return to base, and to have a propeller engine, so if any of those is designed to not return then calling them kamikaze makes sense no?
I find "loitering munitions" fine, people should just get used to correct non-sensationalist terminology. Or maybe sacrificial drones, or cruise missiles, although these traditionally have no loiter phase. But Kamikaze has the very strong implication of a human sacrifice, I find equating that with a single use or expendable drone to be in poor taste. Cruise missiles have been "smart" at least since the late 1980s, so that's nothing new, either. Just because this one can fly in circles for a while does not make it more sacrificial than faster, straight-flying ones.
i mean in English I've also seen them called suicide drones because of the connotations of terrorist suicide bombers I imagine. Kamikaze is more fun though imo.
I agree very much that it's not kamikaze by definition, but after thinking for awhile it's honestly the simplest formulation, basically everyone instantly understands what it is: kamikaze, sacrifices itself by diving on the target; drone, a remotely piloted vehicle
That was my first thought!
“Let’s look at the economic impacts caused by… well… me.”
I wonder if it was at least partially named after him. He's doing great analysis on procurement and logistics for the war.
Not likely, Perun is a God, head of Eastern Slavic pantheon, Zeus-like god of thunder (and war)
Why do people keep calling these "Kamikaze"? The point of the Kamikaze was that there was a human pilot inside, who was going on a suicide mission. These are just inanimate things. Drones, cruise missiles, whatever, NOT kamikaze.
Or else I will start calling all bombs, artillery shells, all munitions that destroy themselves at the target, "kamikaze":
"Germany has agreed to send more kamikaze ammunition for the Gepard anti-aircraft systems, along with a number of IRIS-T kamikaze anti-aircraft missiles, and 50 Taurus kamikaze cruise missiles." "The US have announced that they would deliver 15,000 new kamikaze artillery shells to Ukraine."
See how silly that is? /rant
Honest question, what should they call it?
To me, it makes sense that they don't want to call it a missile unless it has a rocket or other type of powerful engine. Drones are things that I expect to have the ability to return to base, and to have a propeller engine, so if any of those is designed to not return then calling them kamikaze makes sense no?
I find "loitering munitions" fine, people should just get used to correct non-sensationalist terminology. Or maybe sacrificial drones, or cruise missiles, although these traditionally have no loiter phase. But Kamikaze has the very strong implication of a human sacrifice, I find equating that with a single use or expendable drone to be in poor taste. Cruise missiles have been "smart" at least since the late 1980s, so that's nothing new, either. Just because this one can fly in circles for a while does not make it more sacrificial than faster, straight-flying ones.
Just my opinion.
i mean in English I've also seen them called suicide drones because of the connotations of terrorist suicide bombers I imagine. Kamikaze is more fun though imo.
I agree very much that it's not kamikaze by definition, but after thinking for awhile it's honestly the simplest formulation, basically everyone instantly understands what it is: kamikaze, sacrifices itself by diving on the target; drone, a remotely piloted vehicle
Yeah, but it sounds cooler than a 'single-use drone' or a 'guided self-propelled cruise grenade'
I think "loitering munitions" sounds pretty cool, personally.
It makes me think of a couple of suspicious looking missiles hanging out in a hotel lobby
Yes, but possibly literally.
That honestly sounds like munitions that had left the pub after the curfew.
I like "single use drones", too. SUDs is an easy acronym, too.
Ok, but have you heard of kamikaze bullets?