Trump Classifies “Anti-Capitalism” as a Political Pre-Crime
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Wow we moved from the “first they came for the…” to “and then they came for me” in 60 seconds flat.
and here I thought the radical left were the ones into speedrunning!
I'd love to know who you think the radical left are, can you name them?
Anybody right of socialism can stuff it and even that shit is pretty centrist. Working within the system will never solve our problems. It is specifically designed to prevent that and maintain the power structures of capital and empire.
But im sure you probably think socialism is far left lmao
Why do they love ballet so much?
The lesson of history, which we ignored, is to first come for the fascists.
Then we don't have to see that fucking copypasta everywhere.
Americans need to get organized and get their shit together FAST. What's left of their democracy is disappearing daily.
Their democracy has been gone for a while. They're just getting around to noticing now.
It's ironic that the country with the most guns per citizen is the country least likely to defend its democracy with those guns.
Given that the fascist administration defines "extremism" on migration, race, and gender to basically be the absence of bigotry and the presence of rationality, those are ALL positive viewpoints possessed by most of the sane and reasonable people in the world.
Yeah this just straight up designates every human (and some animals probably) as terrorists
not extremist
violently extremist stance on migration, pre-crimed in my jorts
Amusing how much being a true follower would contradict the first two "indicators."
Swearing no oaths (of allegiance), to a flag (an idol), not rejoicing in the deaths of others and eschewing violence, not coveting and constantly lusting after what you don't have. Treating even one's enemies with love...I could go on.
The real Christians are going to be hated and punished heavily and brutally by this regime. Caesar nor Herod were on the side of Christ and His followers, why would these twisted, evil fools be any different?
Time to radicalize, brothers and sisters.
Christ only threatened Hell one time, in Matthew 25. He says people will be damned for the following reasons:
How is the GOP the party of Christ again?
And the only time he got so pissed off that he started whipping some fools was when the moneychangers were profiting from religion like pretty much everyone in the fascist GOP are now.
Also
Matthew 18:6
What this party has done to the Church is beyond disgusting, what they've done to children is beyond horrifying.
Even if we set The Files aside, they're getting busted for peddling in CSAM all the time.
As it is written, their sins will always find them out.
"their sins will always find them out"
If only that were true.
No gods will save us. The only justice in this world is that which we can enact with our own hands.
I have a feeling, that "anti-christianity" will be interpreted in the "if you don't convert once you've heard of christianity, you're anti-christian". They cherry pick the worst parts of the Bible, not the best parts.
The short version is that they want to kill everyone who knows more than they do, and that's most of us.
He has precrime in his pants
I think it's very much post-crime at this point.
That's where the orange tint comes from
If everyone is guilty of crimes against the state, no one is guilty of crimes against the state.
That's really not how that works.
It's really more like... If everyone is guilty of crimes against the state, then anyone can be imprisoned at any time.
(All at the discretion of those in charge.) This is really a much worse situation for everyone.
I expect you're quite worried about this situation but try not to be so dismissive of others, please.
Yes, in a very real sense it means that the Government can target their enemies with impunity. But in another very real sense it suddenly throws everyone over the barrier of having committed a 'crime' and may well remove any moral or ethical barrier one might feel in opposing the regime.
That's fair, I can see how starting my comment like that must have been really annoying. Sorry for that.
How's that work?
If everyone's guilty of crimes against the state then everybody's in for a bad time. The population of the USA is going to go way down over the next few years.
RED BALL
RED BALL
RED BALL
Get your sick sticks!
Everybody runs.
If you don’t be a slave for billionaires you’re a tewwowist. That’s fweedom.
Oh no, dont thweton me. :3
Inventing and punishing thoughtcrimes seems to be a favored tactic among dictators. Trump-MAGA and ICE remind me most of Stalin and his NKVD (secret police). Solzhenitsyn wrote about how ordinary citizens would frequently be arrested/shot/sent to the gulag over mere assertions that they held anti-Soviet/anti-Communist beliefs, or had counter-revolutionary sympathies. It was illegal to not rat out others who you suspected held such beliefs and inclinations - if you didn't you could be shot yourself.
I think we're getting there. I soon expect to see federal government websites and apps where you can report your friends/neighbors/family members for anti-capitalist and/or anti-fascist and/or anti-evangelical-Christian leanings.
From Wikipedia (Great Terror article)
It's chilling.
None of this should sound plausible in the USA. These simply aren't the kind of concerns citizens should have to have in a free democracy, because it shouldn't be possible to let things get this far.
It truly breaks my heart to see the US as it is now. It's frightening, and it's extremely disappointing. I think of all the people who give these totalitarians their vote, and I'm deeply disappointed in them.
These are exactly the kind of concerns citizens should have in a free democracy because that's how you keep your democracy free. We only have rights because normal everyday citizens fought for them and continue to fight for them. The problem is that we've all become complacent and lazy about it and let things slide to where things are now.
I do hear you, and I know, and I agree... It's just that I always expected to fight against the slow creep of totalitarianism. I expected to have to look out for veiled threats, or hidden signs of tyranny. I never expected to face overt, blatant totalitarianism. I never expected the US president to openly endorse white nationalist organizations. I never expected so much of the public to be on board with what are so clearly unethical policies, with an administration that closely mimics the rise of the Nazi party...
If politics is a tug of war, I expected to have to constantly pull in the right direction, I didn't expect the other side to light the rope on fire.
If you thought this was all sudden you just might not have been paying attention. Every president whether its a D or an R has continued the slide.
I don't think that's really an accurate portrayal of events... I mean, how much did Obama or Biden work to add to political polarity and divisiveness? When did they try to pit Americans against each other?
I think that argument breaks down when you get to the most recent presidents we've had.
The only difference between parties is what group of people in the world we will take advantage of. Democrats take advantage of "third world countries" and republicans take advantage of "fake americans".
The whole country is based on greed and abuse of power.
How does he get punished? He's the most anti-capitalist I know! I mean Free Trade and Open Borders is a Capitalist Theory!! He's anti-free trade, close all the borders! I really don't understand hate politicians.
Legal loophole: it's not anti-capitalistic if you are just stupid
I mean, he is an expert on crime.
What even is a "pre-crime" and since when does it exist?
By asking this question you have committed it.
It's a crime that exists only in an alternate factual world. 😶
When he looks at his daughter, that's a pre-crime.
I cannot wait to learn he died. Painfully hopefully.
I will take up celebratory drinking for one day (I don't drink normally)
The country will be the drunkest it's been since the start of the temperance movement
If you think his death will change anything in this rotten system, you've got another thing coming lol
Nothing will change for the positive, but it will be a cathartic interlude in this march to hell.
Fair enough. Ill definitely spark one up when hes gone.
I wish soooooo deeply that a Trump Gestapo is reading all my anti capitalist and anti organized religious comments. I'm so out and proud it'll be great.
Oh my God, did somebody let him watch Minority Report? His grasp on reality is, shall we say, not strong.
Crime before crime? So not a crime? Is raping children a post crime. Asking for a friend?
Raping children is soon to be legal and then they drop the Epstein files. See, nothing weird going on in there. Just the thing we all enjoy
If you're wearing the right coloured hat it's virtually impossible to commit any kind of crime at all.
Ballsy from a guy who concentrates economic decision making into his own cabinet. The word for that is statism not capitalism
except capitalism as a system has always included that "statism" isn't a economic system separate from your imaginary"capitalism"
I grok you're angry. Please don't take it out on me. I didn't make any economic systems, real or imaginary.
When discussing abstract and slippery ideas it is really important to use words according to their precise meanings.
DDG LLM summarizing Studocu & Wikipedia:
It's a feudal kingdom, only with the lords swearing fealty to their king.
The emperor has no clothes, and the frogs are starting to notice that maybe the water is a little hotter than it's worth.
Lol. This guy needs to be tried and executed for treason.
Grandpa wants to change his diaper before it's been shit.
Oh mortal man
You can bury your humanity
But you cannot outrun your mortality
Did you just put the words republicans and honesty in the same sentence?
Finally we can throw the whole admin in jail for being commies?
What a shitty article. Not once did they cite the source material with a hyper link. Why on earth would I share this article with someone when it has no source? Why would you share this article with us when the author didn’t feel he needed to source the content he wrote about?
The article links a source that links directly to NPSM-7 on the white house website.
Next up...all non-Christians must become Christians. Epstein who?
I’m a non Christian that’s a better Christian than the Christian’s. Who gives a fuck about the Epstein list anymore they don’t need to be tried for any specific crimes. We can just punish them. Maybe we just stop caring about the epstien files and gos after everyone who was already released. Throw them in jail to rot without trial. I think it’s time to start using the administration laws against it.
God never believed in the laws of man anyway: a good Christian can punish a pedo like they did interracial marriages in the 1920s
WTF did you just say? There are no 'good' christians, only delusional ones.
And Trump's idea of capitalism is assigning a single-sourced contract to a crony.
That is, to the extent that dim-bulb Trump could ever be said to have an idea.
What a fucking dolt
How long do we have to keep on reading dementia Don's dumbass ramblings?
What a strange and dangerous idea: to suppose that a handful of men shouldn't own everything.
What about Crime Pro MAX?
Tankies bad
Yes, Tankies bad. Tankies and Fascists can be bad at the same time.
The worst part is a lot of Tankies are carrying water for Fascists, (Russia) and dont even realize it because they're blinded by hating America or loving some fictional version of Russia that hasnt existed for 40 years (or arguably, ever)
And they are pro Gaddafi too, that old socialist terrorist, going on about his "red book" when he clearly was just a fascist! How can they be against killing scum like that?
Exactly! They're the worst, after these right wing clowns, of course.