Chinese activist who mocked Xi Jinping flees to South Korea on jet ski, arrested
https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/chinese-activist-kwon-pyong-escape-china-jet-ski-south-korea-arrested-xi-jinping-mocked-2425238-2023-08-23Open linkView original on sh.itjust.works486
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That’s actually pretty badass.
totally completely 100% badass
Does anyone know what the sea is like on that trip? I would think if it was not very calm this would be a nightmare.
I don't really know but...
Looking at it on a map it looks like it's a huge bay, enclosed on 3 sides. I doubt there would be any significant "swell". There might be small waves whipped up on a windy day but barely enough to trouble you on a jet ski particularly if you're moving.
The main risk would be exposure. Too hot, too cold or too much sun even on a cold day can really fuck you up.
I've sailed there, granted it was on a merchant ship, and it varies a lot. If it's little or no wind or a slight breeze from the west he would be fine weatherwise but when we had a small storm pass through it was a bit rough even on a 200m ship. Would look carefully on the weather report before attempting this, especially since he was towing his fuel.
1800cc? That's a bigger engine than my car. In fairness, it sounds like my car gets better mileage.
I dunno... Even with a full tank, I bet your car is not going to get very far into the water.
Well, that's nice. Glad they don't even consider sending him back or something. Hope he gets out of this well.
If this had happened in my country (UK) he'd be in a concentration camp by now.
Nice to know some countries are still civilised
That’s literally what concentration camps are. Points where you “concentrate” a population you’re trying to control.
Outright murdering the people you have in them was a Nazi death camp thing, but the Brits were probably most famous for using them before that while attempting to suppress colonial rebellion.
My apartment in America is a concentration camp ☹️
You joke, buy people have been pointing that out for decades now. There is a reason the term Ghetto is still a common descriptor for these areas to this day...
"Ghettos" aren't just apartments; they're specifically segregated (and not by the minority's choice) and often substandard/impoverished/oppressed.
Trying to equate ghettos with mere high density is nothing but racist NIMBY bullshit.
If there apartment seems like a concentration camp then it is likely subsidized housing, which is statistically likely to be part of a ghetto.
I have nothing against high density, living... the top commentor said their apartment feels like a concentration camp, and my point is that it essentially could be.
Feel free to be smug when the floating death trap of an "asylum center" burns up like Grenfell 🥴
He means a boat
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/07/07/british-asylum-camp-free-phones-and-gyms-channel-migrants/
We're talking about the existence of of the camp here, not how it will be expected to run.
Are you questioning the existence of the camp on the fact this is a torygraph article.
Bibby Stockholm has been in the news recently, i would consider that a concentration camp too. Temporary structure in which asylum seekers are to be concentrated
Paywall. ☹️
https://archive.is/tIpfU
Thanks!
Wasn't for me, try clearing your cookies
Or Rwanda. They love sending immigrants to Rwanda.
They haven't actually managed to send anyone yet have they? Courts keep blocking them
You are correct. Braverman and Sunak are appealing the decision by the Court of Appeal because they're inhuman but so far no one has been sent to Rwanda just yet.
They've also said they want to take away our human rights laws and leave the ECHR. Once they take away all those pesky human rights we'll be all set. I, for one, am sick of all these fucking humans acting as if the human societies that humans built should serve humans and protect humans and encourage humans to prosper. Humans rights? Makes me sick. Can't wait to get rid of them and show these humans who really matters, the people really in charge: [character limit reached]
I hear they have a really nice hotel there.
bad yelp reviews
Hope he gets asylum.
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You may have thought he meant psychiatric asylum but in this case it's
Oooooh, thank you! Yes, I was very confused for a second
Hoh boy
Voting is the proper way to overthrown the government. The other ways are more violent.
What about when the "proper" way doesn't work?
Get on your jetski
Don't forget them 5 barrels 🙃
Nothing wrong violence as a last resort. Especially in reply to violence used against you.
Vote harder
expired
That's what happens when you don't vote hard enough and let a crooked government come into power!
Non-violent revolution. Worked for us in Czechoslovakia.
Yeah I was expecting stuff like "Maybe don't chain people into apartment buildings because one dude got COVID?"
That be treason.
No country likes treason.
Counter revolutionary let's run him over with a tank
China simps will find a way to say this is also exactly like what America would do
Treason and sedition is a no-no around the world...
There's a difference between going "yo government y'all suck" and "let's take up arms and overthrow the government"
"Someone will find a way to make this about America" he said, immediately making it about America.
He was trying to cross a border illegally. So yeah, its exactly what america would do, except maybe they would have shot him.
Yeah the American government always imprisons those who make fun of them. Exactly the same as this for sure.
Please show me where he was arrested for criticising the Chinese state.
Pretty ironic comment coming from @[email protected] I thought liberals had labelled him a russian spy
It's in the article.
but he didnt escape from jail and steal a jetski
Yeah I'm sure the Chinese government would freely admit to that being the reason lol
Well the US certainly wouldn't do THAT.
It is still technically illegal to be a communist or support the party or "Communist-action" organizations in the US. Even though as far as I know, the US government has never "freely admitted" arresting someone for being communist
Ignoring even just the publicly known covert agency programs to undermine the Communist Party of the United States, including possibly being involved in the eventual assassination of MLK jr
Ignoring also the war on cannabis for the explicit purpose of undermining counter-culture and anti-war movements in the 1960's and 70's.
But jesus man, stop inviting comparisons between china and the us!
Does america arrest people LEAVING the country?
This guy was arrested by south Korea, not China.
Oh yeah and america definitely does.
Yeah, and put them in Guantanamo Bay
I fucking love this story
I wonder how long it takes hexbear to blame white western liberals for their leaders weak personality?
Does hexbear like china?
I think you mis-spelled "fellate".
They have too cute a logo for such ugly ideas. It's not fair!
He even drove almost 500 kilometer
not fast enough, clearly
Are there any personal thoughts or insights about the article you wish to share?
SKCG didn't want to identify him but someone else identified him anyway. lmao why do the agencies even try.
Bro studied in Iowa 😐
Lots of Chinese citizens come to the US to study. Look into the Confucius Institute (孔子学院). Many (probably most) universities in the US have partnerships with them (which has led to many conspiracy theories by paranoid people).
Lol
That shirt is giving big "Fuck Trudeau" vibes. It's funny how libs who claim to be leftists will cheer on Chinese right wing extremists (Kwon Pyong) just because "China bad".
Word soup
oh shid oh fug I misread the comment I thought it was typical liberal accusations of China being right wing 😳 😓
I can see how the phrasing of my comment could be taken that way. Edited for clarity.
Here's another article that claims him to be a "critic" of the Tiananmen Square "massacre". A thing that objectively did not happen.
average lemmygrad member
I should learn early 2000s CSS so I, too, can make a website full of fun notions.
Kk tankie
Kk dronie
Good one
More retarded Tankie propaganda. You will never find a legitimate source that backs up your claims.
From the sites "About" page
It's true guys, Tiananment Square massacre didn't actually happen. I have an irrefutable photographic proof:
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Good one. If only you had bothered to click the link in my comment, you would see a well sourced article that does in-fact thoroughly debunk this propoganda that you've internalized so much.
Some highlights:
There's more, but if you're not willing to even consider that you've been lied to about this event, then there's really no point in me putting in any more effort.
Didn't the US 4th Psyops Group literally admit to organizing Tiananmen Square in their recent recruiting video?
I should learn to read! 😅
Never trust a boater.
Why didn't he just take a plane? Just a stupid publicity stunt.
Because he doesn't want to be caught in a Chinese airport
He was arrested for crossing the border illegally. None of these articles say he was wanted for anything prior to this.
Caught doing what? Was he a fugitive? For what reason?
heres the very beginning of the linked article that you're asking about: The jet-ski escapee is Chinese rights activist Kwon Pyong. He had posted pictures on social media mocking Chinese President Xi Jinping, and spent time in jail in China for subversion.
That was in 2016
Yeah there's no way that guy was allowed to buy train tickets, let alone airplane tickets. He probably had no passport
Yes I read that. So he did time and was released... go on.
What were you trying to say?
Common lemmygrad user trying to understand what their reading type a comment
Tankies just can't help tankie-ing, can they
Hurr
Par for the course right here ^
Third base over the bar hattrick.
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You’d know all about being behind bars wouldn’t you tankie :)
You really didn’t think this one through huh
Maybe you can explain it to me? Nobody else can.
Citizen of dictatorship country criticizes govt with a fucking t-shirt
Is aggressively pursued for beating and jail time
Flees to other country, gets caught anyways by said dictatorship.
Maybe if you weren’t a brain dead tankie troll you’d understand better buddy :)
Chinese people don't have freedom to travel...
Lol what. Jesus man, who told you that?
I lived there and experienced it firsthand. All residents of China must apply to travel within China. These days it's mostly automated and quick for convenience, but you will be monitored at various checkpoints in the system.
For the most obvious example, you must register with local police within 24 hours of arrival in your destination, a service hotels usually provide free. This means that you must present your travel documents to check in to all hotels. This applies to all people, not only foreign individuals. Moreover, all lodgings are not legally registered to host foreign guests. So there are many hotels that non-Chinese people cannot even stay in.
I hope this helps relieve your incredulity
Nothing you said backs up your original claim. And more importantly, is completely irrelevant.
Lol you lemmygrad people hate hearing from people who have actually lived and worked in China.
If he tried to buy an airplane ticket it's possible he would have been denied. Riding a jetski across open ocean is pretty dangerous and not preferable. Also, there's no guarantee that you will be allowed entry to your destination. Risky move all around. Especially because the Korean island of Jeju has visa-free travel for Chinese passport holders. So maybe it was a stunt but... Risky move.
Oh speaking of passports, China stopped issuing new passports in recent years. I am not sure if they started back, but it was definitely an issue during the Shanghai COVID lockdown, as rich Chinese people were trying to leave and lay low elsewhere. It's possible that the guy's passport expired and he had no way of traveling by air.
No it's very interesting actually, when it's relevant. You claimed that Chinese people didn't have freedom of movement, then went rambling on about how Chinese people do have freedom of movement.
You just pulled that out of your ass though, didn't you?
But it gets you in the news. It was a stupid gimmick and you know it.
So we're in complete agreement.
Jesus christ man. Use your brain.
Pathetic.
I mean, it's obvious that you have no idea WTF daily life is like in China. I just ran down a list of possibilities and explained how travel works in China and you just posture like a bratty toddler.
Why do you feel a need to knee-jerk glorify and defend a nation-state you've never lived in or associated with? I didn't even badmouth the place, simply described a facet of life in China without hyperbole
😏
Haha apathy about a citizen escaping political persecution
You’re a piece of shit for this comment
Stop believing propaganda lol
“Everything that isn’t my view point is propaganda”
Cool 1984 tactics buddy, propaganda sadly still has a real world definition for which my calling out your apathy to a scenario (fictional or not) is most certainly not l m f a o
I know you feel like you’re right and justified rn (or maybe you’re just another furry avatar troll) but you look like an absolute prick to everyone else.
Look at that fucking jet ski! This is not some poor victim of oppression. This is a wealthy idiot who fucked around and found out.
Suffering is suffering dude.. surely someone who’s actually fucking Queer would understand that no?
Or are you that troll I smelt from the beginning. I love our talks.
Okay but I'm literally a communist, like??? Do you think I feel bad for the suffering of wealthy idiots with giant godamn jet skis who declare themselves enemies of communism?
Look. We're entering the next Cold War, and it's probably going to go hot this time.
Pick a side, lib.
Capitalists and leninists can both be wrong. I'm fine with small c communism myself. But staunchly opposed to the system lenin created.
Hey you first buddy
Yeah, somehow China brainwashed me from the other side of the world despite not speaking Chinese lol
It is pretty weird tbh
It can't possibly be that you have been exposed to propaganda from your own country!
What exactly did he find? A country better than china? (china is cringe)(china genocides due to communism)(genocide is an inherent part of communism)
Eh, kinda yes but really no. Communism always leads to autocracy, which again always leads to genocide. So saying communism doesnt lead to genocide is splitting hairs and doesnt really help with preventing genocides
He found the inside of a jail cell lol