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lemmy.world

This is why you don't acquiesce to facsist threats...

If you fold, they win for free, and can claim that it's a coincidence you do what they wanted.

This morherfucker was posting memes on social media laughing about how it worked and had been intentionally planned. Now he wants to act like it was just an offhand comment.

You have to fight every fucking battle, no matter how pedantic, how pointless, or how much plausible deniability they have.

Don't give them a fucking inch for free, because if it's easy they'll keep doing it. If every inch is a battle, it runs down the clock and makes them want to just fuck off and go golfing instead.

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sh.itjust.works

I mean, it’s a corpo that acquiesced. They don’t care about rights or vindication or freedom, they just care about line go up. This is good advice for average people, but does not make the line go up.

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lemmy.world

Counterpoint: we've got to tell the mega corporations and C-suiters that they will lose money appealing to MAGA. Go fash, lose cash. Give money to the ones that fight back, buy from good local businesses, and be informed about where the megas stand and cut back as much support as you can.

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lemmy.ca

Finally, a worthy opponent to “go woke, go broke” — I'll use “go fash, lose cash” for years to come!

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I cant claim that I created it (dunno where I first saw it either) but absolutely use it! And make sure the 1% knows it true, too

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lemmy.world

Carr said that “what I spoke about last week is that when concerns are raised about news distortion … there’s an easy way for parties to address that and work that out. In the main, that takes place between local television stations that are licensed by the FCC and what we call national programmers like Disney. They work that out, and there doesn’t need to be any involvement of the FCC.”

He added: “Now, if they don’t, there’s a way that is not as easy, which is someone can file a complaint at the FCC, and then the FCC, by law, as set up by Congress, has to adjudicate that complaint. And what I’ve been very clear in the context of the Kimmel episode, is the FCC, and myself in particular, have expressed no view on the ultimate merits.”

Bullshit word salad.

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LOGIC💣reply
lemmy.world

Also from this article, but I want to remind people of this, too:

Carr, appearing on Benny Johnson’s podcast, called Kimmel’s remark “some of the sickest conduct possible.”

This is what Carr thought was "some of the sickest conduct possible":

Kimmel said, “We had some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and with everything they can to score political points from it.”

So, for Brendan Carr, "the sickest conduct possible" refers to comedians making extremely tame jokes about politicians and saying exactly what they were doing. "The sickest conduct possible" is apparently not what the politicians were actually doing, when they were exploiting Kirk's death for their own gains.

You know, personally, when I think of "the sickest conduct possible," I tend to think of other things. Maybe things more similar to assaulting and raping children or sexually assaulting women in a changing room. You know, actually bad things where people get hurt. Not stuff where you're just telling the truth to politicians who are embarrassed by the truth.

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Or like Brian Kill-em-all saying ON AIR that homeless people should all just be murdered by lethal injection.

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lemmy.world

Everyone keeps reposting that monologue quote but completely ignores the part where he just played clips of Trump not seeming to give a damn that Kirk had been murdered.

The FCC chair threatened to kill a merger for Nextstar if they didn't threaten ABC to get Kimmel taken off the air, because he insulted Trump, Nextstar pressured ABC, and ABC capitulated.

This was never about comments Kimmel made about Charlie Kirk, and shame on the entirely of media in this country for framing it that way. This was because Jimmy Kimmel insulted President Donald Trump.

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What you're saying is true, but the problem is that the part where Trump doesn't give a shit about Kirk can't be spun. There is nobody who would see Kimmel criticizing Trump for having zero empathy for Kirk, and accept the spin that it was an insult towards Kirk.

On the other hand, the first part can be spun. They say that Kimmel was lying about the assassin's motives which dishonors the memory of Kirk. Of course, Kimmel said no such thing.

In fact, he was saying that MAGA was lying about the assassin's motives. As far as I know, we still haven't heard anything about the killer's motives, so anybody who claims they know the killer's motives, even his parents, are just making shit up.

So, as far as I can tell, Kimmel was doing what MAGA was claiming that they were doing, being respectful towards Kirk, while calling out people who were being disrespectful. And meanwhile, MAGA was doing what they were claiming Kimmel was doing, lying about the shooter's motives. But I won't say that this really dishonors Kirk. He'd have lied, too.

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Reminds me of:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0mOY7OMHh4

Dwight Schrute: I didn't know that you were at a party on Saturday night.

Ryan Howard: I go to a lot of parties.

Dwight Schrute: Okay, I'm gonna need to search your car. Give me your keys.

Ryan Howard: I am not giving you my keys.

Dwight Schrute: Don't make me do this the hard way.

Ryan Howard: What's the hard way?

Dwight Schrute: I go down to the police station on my lunch break. I tell a police officer, I know several, what I suspect you may have in your car. He requests a hearing from a judge and obtains a search warrant. Once he has said warrant, he will drive over here, and make you give him the keys to your car and you will have to obey him.

Ryan Howard: Yeah, let's do it that way.

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He needs to be removed from his position immediately and have an investigation opened into his actions

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I mean, it does need to happen.

It's just part of a long list of other things that also need to happen

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sh.itjust.works

And have his feet beaten with a shitty stick until the skin peels off?

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Yeah, I think politician should actually have to live under the Singaporean laws penal code

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fedia.io

Conservatives are liars, hypocrites and bullies.

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Soulgreply
ani.social

The fact that nobody ever calls them out for the blatantly obvious lies to their face is the most infuriating thing of all. They think we're brainless monkeys and they get away with it because nobody pushes back

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lemmy.world

Plenty of people call them out on it - they've just spent my lifetime insulating themselves from any impact coming from it.

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I mean on the TV, during the interviews, directly after they tell the obvious lies.

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Literally everyone who's not a republican is constantly jumping at the bit to "call out republicans", because its the main way they feed their ego. Republicans are bad, ive pointed it out loudly, so now I'm a good person.

Its cheap and easy, but hardly the truth. Republicans have real problems just like anyone else. Learn how to have a conversation with someone who's come to a different conclusion than yourself.

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Buddy I know a pile of shit when I see it. Call it fudge all you like, but even after you take a bite to reassure me you're not lying, we both know the truth.

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OK. Did anyone complain to FCC about a certain turd gleefully advocating euthanasia of the homeless? What's happening with that investigation?

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Violation of Civil Rights under the color of law.

If we still have elections in 2026-2028, I have a feeling this hopped up nobody is going to be made an example out of.

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"I said to take care of him. I did not specify what that meant, you're just putting words into my mouth" - "plausible" deniability

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Any other insult around the facts of what he said or did would be much more helpful than this.

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Lol.

"No no no, I meant easy at in less paperwork! An offer you can't refuse? No no, that's buy one get one free. And when I said you should meet my little friend, I meant our coworker Joey. He's 5'7"!"

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More Mafia tactics. Playing the plausable deniability game and gaslighting. What an asshole.

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lemmy.world

Can't speak to the ratings, but given the nature of things, I wouldn't be surprised if ratings were a fairly secondary concern.

This was a PR nightmare, people who didn't care one way or another about the show were outraged. People were cancelling Disney+ subscriptions that had nothing to do with the show.

The administration may have even pushed things back in place so they could come out with this backpedaling with some degree of 'credibility'. They saw that the Colbert way worked without unacceptable blowback, but more direct threats and immediate action are the line that starts making things riskier. Besides, the late night hosts are relatively harmless outlets for those upset with the administration, bread and circuses and all. Sure they may boo the administration, but it doesn't matter. They were booing all through the 2024 campaign season and it didn't phase things at all.

So Kimmel is probably safe until at least the midterms are settled, no matter the ratings.

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Oh, that's why he's walking it back! Must have got a call from the Mouse.

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I didn't say it

And if I did, I didn't mean it

And if I didn't, I was joking

And if I wasn't, you are overreacting

or something like that

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I see we have reached the "and if it was (bad), I didn't mean it" stage of the Narcissist's Prayer.

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FCC Chairman: Someone should take care of Jimmy Kimmel.

[deep state assassins terminate Kimmel]

FCC Chairman: Noooo! Not like that!!

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About as convincing as Ray on trailer park boys getting busted for solicitation. "What? Prostitution? That money wasn't for sex! It was for... This is illegal!"

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Can you post something like "find out where he lives" on Lemmy?

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Let the shareholders see the portfolio of this wankers arrogant comments. Make it impossible to ignore. Make it so all companies, CEOs and executives know that their livelihoods are dependent upon (checks notes) the customers that truly pay their wages.

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Was it meant as a threat to murder them all if they didn't then? Because there's not a lot of other contexts that phrase gets used in.

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