Tyler Robinson Left Note Vowing to 'Take Out Charlie Kirk': FBI
FBI Director Kash Patel said Tyler Robinson, the suspected killer of Charlie Kirk, wrote a note stating his intention to "take out" the influential conservative activist.
Patel, speaking to Fox & Friends on Monday, said the FBI had "forensic evidence" of the note, but that it had "since been destroyed."
They have a note but it's been destroyed. Yeah, nothing fishy about this BS at all and it goes without saying completely incompetent that they continue to leak half baked, incomplete investigative information.
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Was the note trans too?
No, but he LEFT it. It was a note that was LEFT.
I knew it god damn WOKE paper, it's turning the frogs gay
He wrote on it left to right. Wake up!
Oh, that's why they destroyed it
It was assigned “blank piece of paper” at birth, then transitioned into “paper with words on it”. Case closed. Arrest everyone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74BzSTQCl_c
No but the pencil was
It was born a vagisil
Must be a red pencil
monistat.
It was tumbling in the wind of a Transstar truck
I read a
great thread on Bluesky earlierdetailing how many times Kash Patel may have completely botched this case by all the stupid things he's said on FOX today. Definitely worth a read!*Edit to add
Skyview thread unroll link*Edit #2: it was pointed out in the comment below that many folks in the thread I linked are calling into question the OOP's claims and professional background. After a brief view myself, there is at least one person within those comments whom I do believe when they say its "full of errors"
I'm leaving my original comment up for now for posterity sake, but I am more than willing to remove it if that would be more appropriate.
It appears there are replies to this thread that call into question many of the things stated
it reeks of punditry - surface level knowledge and worst case scenarios presented with lots of confidence. fwiw the persons quoted qualifications have absolutely nothing to do with law. They are a “blockchain” and data science person who also does venture capital and angel investing, aka a classic “I don’t know when to stay in my fucking lane and think that because I made a shitload of money I must be a genius at everything ever” type
Care to analyze any of the statements that have been called out? Or maybe copy/screenshot any of the comments discrediting them if you have the time?
I'm not trying to be an asshole, here, but everything beyond the first sentence or two in your comment is just character assassination (ad hominem). Obviously the guy's credentials are not in law, but that doesn't automatically invalidate his analysis since we've got no concept of who he's able to consult with behind the scenes.
I don't have a BlueSky account, so I can't check the comments for myself, only see the root posts.
Fair enough. here’s a bunch of the discourse bc I’m not a lawyer or legal expert
Thank you!
I hate all pundits. They all have stupid dumb takes the public takes as gospel and ends up making this world a worse place. It is the one “profession” I absolutely hate and despise.
Pundits made an entire career out of pure speculation. I hate watching, listening to, even reading that kind of shit - topic be damned. But especially with topics that genuinely interest me. It's just pointless fluff.
They're no better than youtube channels that post videos about cars....that are completely AI generated. One dude in an automotive discord that I'm in almost fell for one.
Exactly!! They are simply court jesters speaking to the peasants keeping us divided. Fuck em all.
Pundits literally make you less aware of what is happening in the world. Their whole job is to fill the space between an event, and actual, verified information about that event, with wild guesses. Any truthful journalist will admit the limitations of what is known during that time.
Thank you for pointing this out. It seems that you are correct. I've edited my original comment
Can't remember if it was part of that thread, or a comment on it... but there was a suggestion that they likely don't care about the case itself, rather they're more concerned about crafting and maintaining the narrative. Based on how this week has played out, I can't say that I'd disagree
Is there any way I can extract all this out into text? I’m having a hard time following each of the posts. They keep hiding behind replies.
Here, try this out
You rock thanks!!
I want to believe but…our court system is a joke
i just went through vore dire recently, JD recently. yea they need people that arnt smart enough to get out of JURY DUTY.
Upvoting for honesty.
maybe if he doesnt look likes hes on cocaine 24/7 he might actually do something useful.
A great breakdown in one of the most obnoxiously stupid formats one can imagine. Dozens and dozens of short posts...
I've always hated Twitter for this. How asinine...
Why keep mentioning the transgender thing from just an allegation about someone who had nothing to do with this? These fuckers know exactly what the fuck they're doing.
The governor finds a way to put "transgender" in every sentence, and at the same time he deliberately uses the wrong pronouns for this person.
They're doing it on purpose, and it is disgusting.
We found a note where he said he did this in honor of his black transgender immigrant girlfriend named Marxina McWoke. But the dog ate it.
This is toddler shit. Fucking clowns.
So there was no note
concepts of evidence
They read the note from golden plates inside a hat and then an angel took them to heaven.
The note says that Biden personally asked him to do it. But it’s magically disappeared. There is not note. Stop asking about the note.
The note is among the Epstein files. They don't exist.
It’s been less than a WEEK, and they DESTROYED the NOTE??
In their defense, Charlie Kirk picked a bad time to be assassinated. It's luau week the FBI, and things can get very messy and flamey at the office.
How convenient for them.
Is it convenient for them to be telling everyone they are that incompetent that they can't hold on to a key piece of evidence?
When I first read about this, I understood that the assassin had destroyed the note, perhaps burned it or ripped it up, and that the FBI somehow put it back together or found the traces of ink on a burned note. Am I wrong?
Well if they had done that they could say they had done that. But the more likely hypothesis given who we're dealing with here is that it's bullshit and there was no letter.
I mean, what the hell is this even supposed to mean? The rest of the article is just heresy about “leftist ideology”. They quote the family as stating that he was leftist, but theres zero detail as to how. You’d think if the kid was truly leftist and we had “forensic evidence” of a note, we’d at least have a direct quote?
What evidence? How was the note destroyed? In what manner? Was any of it recoverable at all? What specific leftist ideologies did he subscribe to? What specifically did he not like about Kirk’s politics?
Given the progress of the investigation, and the current “evidence” presented, I am just not confident we will get answers to these questions.
The description is so vague, that a few ashes in the garbage and someone claiming they saw the note and it's contents would fit it.
That must have been the note under the keyboard, maybe the boyfriend panicked and destroyed it, but then later told the FBI what was written. It was just badly communicated in the news.
Judge: “Mr. Patel, what is your evidence that the accused committed this crime?”
Kash Patel: “Your Honor, it came to me in a dream.”
Judge: “Good enough for me. Guilty!”
hes going to vahalla.
Ah, the Joseph Smith defense.
This is literal toddler-level finger pointing.
Newsweek. Its a tabloid and should not be used for serious discussion.
Toddlers can learn better.
Yes. Yes they do.
Source: raised 5 kids, last one is still toddler
It it just me or is there a rather important "Kash Patel says" missing from the headline?
And this right-wing policy of finding someone trans to mention in every report of a shooting, no matter how tangential or irrelevant their transness may be, just so the public can make a good solid mental association between trans people and dangerous violence, is absolutely disgusting.
its also to avoid naming names, placing blame on right ringers, conservatives as the sole source of the shooting.
he "left" a note?
large scale left wing conspiracy confirmed
It must have been "left" to be destroyed!
It was destroyed when his Canadian girfriend and his dad who works for Nintendo were fighting over it.
I heard the note was deep within the source code of Half Life 3
Source: trust me bro
So I'm supposed to scream for this guy's head based on a note the FBI found, but destroyed?
That's not how evidence works. Who is in charge over there? Oh yeah...
it was to the wrong chain, so deleted it. but then I decided to just not post it at all.
This message is just so your comment is not hanging out naked like this.
Shooter was a MAGAt from a MAGAt family. Left a note saying what he was going to do. So the 'government"'s response? Oh we gonna crack down on the left's violence and make it illegal to be a Democrat!
Fucking morons...
...can we all stop with the dumb insults like "magat"? It's always so cringey. That honestly sounds like something a MAGA idiot/Russian agitator bot would say.
You can mentally replace it with fascist or Nazi. They're all interchangeable in the US
Then say fascist. That's much better than some Trump-style "MAGAt" insult. Not all MAGA people are Nazis, but they are all fascists by definition of being MAGA.
Yes, they absolutely are. They are also traitors, racists, pedophiles, misogynists, incompetent, intolerant, and corrupt. Every single one of them.
If you support and follow a leader who actively, enthusiastically participated in all those behaviors, then you are as responsible for them as they are. By supporting and voting for Trump, ALL of those supporters get slapped with those same labels.
Don't like it? Don't be MAGA.
Ok thanks for showing you reasonable you can be. Get off the internet for a bit buddy
Nobody should treat treasonous Nazis reasonably. They will certainly not treat us reasonably when the time comes.
Disagree. If 9 people are comfortably eating dinner with a vocal Nazi and none of them call out the Nazi, there are 10 Nazis in the room. Their behavior certainly quacks and walks like a Nazi as well. If you want to be pedantic, they're neo-nazis
(Also I'm not OP)
Sure, but I've seen many instances where MAGA people yelled back at the actual Neo-Nazis. This is all just pedantic now.
Here that? They did lip service while handing over power enthusiastically to the most comically and obviously evil people they could find!
The note probably also said that he was the one who messed with the 2020 elections so that Trump didn't win. And also the note said that he had planned all the wildfires that have hit USA recently.
In a few months he will probably also confess to spreading the Covid Virus in the US
was it destroyed along with Kash's Meth Stash at that vet clinic?
cocaine is a hell of a drug. kash needs it to function normally.
Either he's lying or someone is committing the crime destruction of evidence.
“Forensic evidence.” So, like, bro said “he totes wrote a note” and then someone uses science to say “there was paper over here; must be where the note went!” Is this the kind of Keystone cops bullshit we’re being asked to believe?
If there's evidence, then it should be producible. A notepad with the imprint of the removed page. A hard drive with the deleted and recovered data. You don't get to hide behind the term 'forensic', saying 'trust us bro'.
So what kind of forensic evidence? Show it.
Keystone Kash.
Ah yes, Bones science
Close cousin to the sort of science seen on NCIS that states that two sets of hands on a keyboard allow for one to hack a computer FASTER
At least NCIS people had the decency to admit it was intentional
I'd be more inclined to believe the FBI if it wasn't gutted and ransacked only to be run by the stupidest doofuses to ever have existed.
A right winger killed a right winger, at a right wing event, on a right wing university campus, in a right wing city with a right wing mayor, in a right wing state with a right wing mayor and their response is to blame the left. This country is beyond fucked. But the pedos will do anything to push us to total facism and protect the other pedos.
I don't think Robinson really fits neatly into a categorisation.
Its hard to know what reporting I've read is accurate, and which isn't, but he seems like a person with a complex story.
With the way Trump and his fellow pedos are controlling and threatening the media, the vast majority of what is being released my the media is probably inaccurate at best.
I love how the obviously false narrative will continue to live on in left-wing echo chambers while the rest of the world and the courthouse and lawyers will all know the actual truth.
This is pathetic even by tinpot dictatorship standards.
Isn't this just poisoning the well so he cant get a fair trial? If I were this dude's lawyer, I'd be jumping up and down in court (with glee) to get a gag order in this asshat.
just like they botched the other youknowwho in newyork murder.
There is no longer the rule of law. This is them flaunting that fact.
are we honestly supposed to believe anything coming out of the federal government? i mean i know i don't, but do other people who aren't maga morons actually take this shit seriously.
Our government is, literally, being run by Fox News hosts and podcasters.
That's not an exaggeration.
So no, I don't believe a fucking thing coming from the federal government right now because they don't even approach the realm of credibility because they don't even remotely have the qualifications for their jobs.
It's time to move on. Just like all the school shootings that are forgotten about in a couple days, the country needs to get over charlie since they care more about him than the children that are dying.
Time to focus on how the administration is ramping up efforts to take away our first amendment and arrest people for "hate speech" which has been proven by the supreme court to be protected MULTIPLE times.
Yeah I don't get it either. Innocent little kids are being killed in school shootings and the administration doesn't bat an eyelid but some right winger who says school shootings are "worth it" is shot and they lose their shit
I'm convinced it's because they are doing so poorly at their jobs that they need a media distraction and they will milk this for as long as they can.
Oh yeah, did anyone see the Fed reduced interest rates today because the trump administration is failing so much, they had to cut it to keep us from a recession?
Also the government budget is due to be voted on and the government is about to go into a shutdown because the GOP refuses to stop wasting money and they refuse to work with democrats in anyway, shape or form.
These issues are much more important than some dead fascist who got popular on youtube.
Is it possible that Kash Patel fucks up this case so hard that the guy walks free?
Even if he does walk free, they're going to drag it out as long as they can to make his life hell. Just like they're doing with Luigi.
I'm just kinda impressed that a political assassin has managed to follow the golden rule of having been arrested: shut the fuck up, repeat ad nauseum
Do you really think he hasn't been talking this whole time? If he said anything supporting the Left, they'd have blabbed it all over the world. They're just saying he's not saying anything because what he's really saying is far-far right stuff.
For whatever it's worth the governor said the shooter was being uncooperative. But they are working on and intimidating his roommate that might be a transsexual to agree with whatever bullshit their political leadership demands. I would be skeptical that anything that came out of this transsexual person being worked over by the police in such a hot case.
That's the rule when you're a petty criminal, or a lawful person being investigated. When you are committing civil disobedience or terrorism, you fucking claim it.
But what do you do if you're committing religious terrorism for Eris? Because honestly this whole ordeal fits that
He wasn't an activist; he was a propagandist.
Is this the thing where they dust for the imprint left behind through the previous page on a notebook.
We don't know because they haven't done the proper investigation and they're just leaking crap left and right just fueling speculation and conspiracy theories that leads the right to continue to call for violence.
Patel was ordered to fit their narrative to justify a crackdown, that is all this is.
No this is the one where the handwriting matches the fed who found the note
Can do it with a camera and good lighting if you don't want to leave residue behind.
I think that would he she, you misgendering motherfucker.
The trans person is being pressed to give a story they want to hear I bet. I would take it all with salt unless there is more evidence.
I hear you, and I hate to defend Spencer Cox, but he's been pretty good about gendering appropriately in the statements I've seen. It's by avoiding pronouns altogether, but he does appear to be trying.
I guess I'm just touchy given that the whole tenor of their media communications these days seems designed to forge an association in the public's mind between violent crime and trans people.
You're not wrong. Everyone reading this, please take note that every piece of information being reported is coming from Utah law enforcement, then secondhand from Cox, and the FBI, much of it now via Kash Patel. Some of that information has already been demonstrated to be plainly false ("trans messages" on the rounds), while other things can be accepted as true (video and stills, actual messages on the rounds, chat content), and some is just "whaaa ... ?" ("There was a handwritten note, we know it, and we know exactly what was in it, but it doesn't exist anymore.")
Then layer on top of that that the administration is leadning real hard into the "left-wing radicals" thing, and their leaning is being heavily reported by a media landscape that is incapable of comprehending the "joking not joking meme culture" of places like 4chan, 7chan, corners of SomethingAwful, old IRC, Usenet, StileProject. Someone I know tells me: "I lived there. Still visit there. It's always, and I do mean always, right wing shit." I was there, too, and it is always right wing shit.
Cox says Robinson was "radicalized by Reddit, by dark places on the internet" and then concludes that Robinson is a "leftist." Lol no, that's not what happens on "dark places on the internet" (I mean, unless you include tankies? Maybe?)
Again, to everyone, be very critical of the messaging you're seeing come out of the investigation, the administration, and the media reporting on it. This is shaping up to be not "wag the dog" but just a disembodied tail wagging itself.
Damn liberals. So cunning that they recruited a right wing nut job to shoot a right wing nut job.
Even if he were motivated by liberal views, his Conservative upbringing taught him to respond with a typical conservative solution - gun violence.
If he had been raised by liberals, he would have been protesting and writing stern emails, not shooting.
Liberal or not, conservatives taught him how to behave.
Fucking soros...
I'm a little irritated at him. I'm still waiting for my paychecks for promoting leftist views. I'm starting to think that MAGAs have been lying to me about paid protesters.
Even if the note ever existed, I doubt the FBI's ability (or the current administration's desire) to recognize the inherent underlying irony of many groyper tropes. I especially doubt the FBI's competency after their "mistaking" a common ammo manufacturer's mark as a leftist commentary.
Wait wait, what? So did the alleged shooter actually carve anything into the casings, or was it just the factory markings that fox is trying to spin?
There's a couple things.
The first reports, right after the shootings, were that the bullets were described with a pro-trans message. Except that turned out to be TRN, which is the maker's mark for Turan ammo.
The second reports were that messages were written on the ammo. They haven't released any photos but they say the "new" messages are
The thing that strikes me is that all of those seem to be fairly lengthy messages to engrave onto a bullet. And the messages are more viral meme remnants of the terminally online.
So they had that evidence, but they no longer have it, but "trust us" they had it and it was real?
As a (former?) Mormon, I hope he can appreciate the irony...
Its like the golden plates, there were witnesses and they all signed their declaration in Oliver Cowdry's handwriting, sounds legit
Release the Epstein files.
Sounds like "Promises Made, Promises Kept". I say let him run for office.
smells like bullshit, maybe they will fuck up prosecution
It was misfiled in the Esptien folder perhaps ?
With Trump's obsession with infiltrating every branch of the gov and putting in his lackeys I don't trust anything coming out of it at this point.
How long before they walk this one back?
Is it a leak if it's hearsay?
My guess would be that it was a note on some form of digital media. Say you make a document on your computer that you later delete. The data doesn't actually get deleted, your computer just removes the location from it's giant table of contents and marks the space "available to write". Typically that information can still be retrieved using software tools until it is actually overwritten, and even then there are exceptions. So yes, it is entirely plausible for them to have forensic evidence of a note that someone attempted to destroy.
Except that isn't what he said. He didn't say that someone attempted to destroy it. He said it was destroyed.
Maybe I should have left that out, that's just me analyzing it too much. But lets say you shred a document. You would probably say that you've destroyed that document. If someone then took the pieces from the trash and painstakingly put them back together into a readable document, did you still destroy it? Or did you attempt to destroy it?
That would be an attempt. There is a reason why US DoD regulations have required levels of "shredding." The method must make the material unable to be reassembled. His wording said they had forensic evidence of a note, but the note was destroyed. This implies they no longer can give that note to the people asking for evidence. If his team was able to reassemble it, then he could have given that evidence over. He was very clear that he was unable to provide any evidence.
Now, what he might have meant was they found pointers to a memory location on a harddrive that had truly been wiped. A simplistic analogy would be like how Word shows you recently edited documents, but if you change the name of a document outside of Word it will not be a correct pointer when you try to select it from history in Word. There might be forensic evidence pointing to a file that was created, but they cannot access the file due to an ACTUAL deletion.
Thanks for adding in some more clarity. I worked as a cyber security analyst for the DoD for quite a while (IAT II level stuff) so I know it can get a little esoteric if you aren't in that world. But absolutely, they may have found an index/pointers but the data itself was already overwritten. Or hell they could have found a thumbnail image stored in a cache somewhere that was clear enough. I was just trying to help people understand how something could be both "destroyed" and recovered at the same time. Language can depend on perspective sometimes, and none of us can really know the answer just based on verbage in a report. Could be the person talking to the press didn't have a clear understanding. Either way it will be interesting to see what, if anything, comes of it.
Side note: since you brought up shredding, I thought I'd share the ridiculous process I had to go through when I was active duty. We had to use a crosscut shredder, dump it into a bucket of water to turn it into a slurry, let the slurry dry and then burn the remains lmao.
Or it just gets automatically uploaded to microsoft.
“Left Note?”
Checkmate libtards.
I think this kid just wanted to be famous calling him left and right wing shows a clear lack of understanding the internet
Well the first reporting I heard of this screwdriver is that it was found in the woods near the rifle. Or are there two screwdrivers?
take him out on like a date or something
I'm sure they'll find it on hunter biden's laptop
You think he’s just a patsy, like Luigi?
Probably the old school getting a print from the second page press-through impression on a notepad.
I mean, who hasn’t?
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.