Spyke
lemmy.world

taps on shoulder Hey, is this where we wait for Berengaria_of_Navarre to eat their roommates ass?

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

Yeah, there's complementary refreshments over there points at table in the corner laden with fruit, pastries, coffee, and soft drinks

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discuss.online

Hot take: the current trend of publicly broadcasting how scientists are losing funding for pointing out facts with diseases and vaccines is showing us what they used to do - investors burying stories they don't want to admit.

Maybe historians originally did call them what they were. But their investors got pissed off and "calling them roommates" was a way to do their work and still feed their family.

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Please feel encouraged to specify that this current trend mostly applies to USA.

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feddit.org

Is this refering to specific historical figures?

Or just that homosexuality was way more widespread than history books would make us believe?

edit: thanks, my question has been answered.

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Just referring to situations when there is obviously a homosexual relationship and some historians description will say "best friends" or "roommates" because they are so arrogant or bigoted they can't see it for what it really is.

Mostly seems to happen with women, because god forbidden two women love each other before the current era.

For example this would be incorrectly labeled "two roommates startled well getting dressed for dates with their boyfriends."

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There's a meme that historians are willfully blind to obvious gay relationships of historical figures.

The reality is, as usual, more complicated, but the versions of stories that reach the general public aren't really known for nuance.

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It's just referring to the common pattern of history books and information at places like museums erasing gay people by calling them "friends" instead. Including stuff like two men buried together in ways that only married couples would have been in their culture or paintings that show two women very obviously being intimate in some way in a bed being labelled as two "good friends"

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In conclusion, please find and offer the sexy time to your nearest, local historian.

Maybe try something like a clever redefinition of 'bookworm' or asking if they'd like to participate in a bit of practical, contemporary, anthropological research in the field, as a pickup line, I dunno.

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I know this is a joke/meme but it does make light of a more sinister truth. The reality is western Christian people have white washed history to fit their narrative about how the world should work.

That extends right back to obvious things like trying to suppress Roman history as it didn't fit the Christian narrative. In the modern era it's the ongoing suppression of lgbt history.

It's not "historians" that can't get their heads around gay people existing. It's right wing religious people who have quite literally been writing the history books and been selective about what they include.

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dude i know roman statues were painted and shit, but now because of you my perspective has shifted to them being like, really really gay colors. I haven't quite figured out what that would be, especially given the culture of the time, but I have decided This Must Be True and i will die on this hill

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