Spyke
piefed.ca

Because petitions do nothing? Name literally a single petition from this website that has caused a law change.

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piefed.ca

These petitions get a "government response" which is typically an MP from the government giving a canned response. I'd love to see a link to whatever record you are talking about.

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lemmy.world

Lying for political gain should be a felony, just like any other kind of fraud.

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domreply
lemmy.ca

They rarely outright lie. Its almost always very misleading though

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lemmy.ca

Also difficult to prove they were acting in malice instead of ignorance.

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lemmy.ca

Once you get to Parliament, ignorance shouldn't be an excuse anymore. You're supposed to be representing Canadians at the highest level.

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The political world can be complicated and distinguishing true from false is not always easy, said Marland, who teaches at Acadia University.

Yes, exactly. You'd pretty much need a referee, and then how can you be sure that that person isn't the one fibbing for personal gain?

In a health democracy, it seems like politicians avoid saying things that are demonstrably false on their own. Tortured and spun to the point of uselessness, sure, but never directly counterfactual. Take Poilievre's "Carney has made pipelines illegal", for example. Useless (since nobody wants to build one anyway) and basically untrue, but you could make up a hypothetical pipeline that would be illegal, and Carney does have a lot of say over the regulations, so by the letter...

The alternative facts seem to start only once you have a burgeoning radical faction there to support them in the first place.

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