I won't mind sommuch, If their games were even remotely worth $80. But they're not, let's face it, if it's a competition between yet another mairo cart and a steam deck plus a few indi and AA titles, it ain't even a competition. The high cost of the steam deck is offset by the low cost of the games.
I’m not sure steam deck would even be considered “high cost” since you can get a refurbished unit directly from steam for about half the price of a switch 2.
And even a brand new one is still cheaper.
Plus there are parts and instructions available on how to fix and replace pieces yourself should that ever be needed, unlike some drift issues from Nintendo’s controllers where they basically tell you to spend more money or get bent.
I haven't bought a console since the game cube, and bought a switch for my nephew. When i saw the prices of the games, i was a bit confused. Why is a 8 year old game still full price, why does it have the most disgusting dlc system i have ever seen and so on. I asked that in a nintendo sub Reddit. It wasn't reddit, but i don't remember where.
People there were insane tbh. They defended their previous nintendo to the death. Their answer to everything was basically: buy the game and dlc and shut the fuck up, it's worth it.
Yeah but at the same time those people are already tech braindead. Maybe the people that has to go against them it's not the tech brain dead but the people that care about tech ethics. For example, game developers not accepting porting to Nintendo platforms.
I really don't get why indie devs sign contracts with Nintendo, when Nintendo literally holds tons of blood in his hands from destroyed indie games by demands.
All good, I’m currently lodging a patent on lodging patents for a system for summoning a character.
See you in court, Nintendo!
P.S.: I’m also lodging a patent for a system of pirating every single game on a Nintendo platform (past, present and future), however I will be opening that one up to the public once granted.
I believe existing work doesn‘t matter much in Japanese patent law for some reason. You either have patented it or you haven‘t. That‘s what we‘ve been seeing with this lawsuit again and again. Honestly, Pocketpal should consider moving to Singapore or something to avoid this bullshit.
On September 2, the Japanese gaming giant was issued a U.S. patent that covers a somewhat broad implementation of a system for summoning characters into battle. Identified by patent number 12,403,397
Absolutely ridiculous this was even granted. What is the point in the system if people are just going to be allowed to patent general ideas and vague concepts. How about I got patent my idea of a gun game. See you in court every game with guns.
Alright, that was unexpected. To be honest it doesn‘t even make sense. I’m assuming they‘ll lose that patent in trial as quickly as they got it then. How ridiculous.
We have got to stop saying "you're surprised?" whenever anyone points out something being morally wrong. They didn't say they were surprised, @[email protected] (appropriate username, though).
Wtf is with all these patents being granted literally decades after the original concept was implement and if patented then (despite the generic unpatttenable concept) would have already excited by now?
The article seems to touch on this saying patent offices struggle to find prior art since they look at previous patent documentation, not previous games.
Yeah I wasn’t being serious but based on the downvotes I don’t think Lemmy got that.
My intent was actually to fuck over Nintendo with a patent about making your pets fight each other the way they keep gobbling up patents for shit that already exists.
You made a comment that is typically meant with complete seriousness without any indication you were joking. PETA, for example, has an entire anti-Pokemon campaign built on the premise that Pokemon is animal cruelty.
Yeah. I can see it wasn’t clear and then I started trolling people who yelled at me which didn’t help my case.
I should have been more clear, that I was trying to call out the hypocrisy of Nintendo’s lawsuit with Palworld (Pokémon with guns) when their own game could be considered just as immoral by some.
I’m annoyed at companies that would rather sue than compete. Palworld is a different game with different ideas.
Nintendo has no fucking shame.
The real problem is people supporting them..
I haven’t given Nintendo a dollar in 30 years now. Not since my last N64 game purchase.
People complain about their practices then when they release something they go suck their dicks
People complained about switch 2, people still bought it
People complained about $80 games, people still bought it
I won't mind sommuch, If their games were even remotely worth $80. But they're not, let's face it, if it's a competition between yet another mairo cart and a steam deck plus a few indi and AA titles, it ain't even a competition. The high cost of the steam deck is offset by the low cost of the games.
I’m not sure steam deck would even be considered “high cost” since you can get a refurbished unit directly from steam for about half the price of a switch 2.
And even a brand new one is still cheaper.
Plus there are parts and instructions available on how to fix and replace pieces yourself should that ever be needed, unlike some drift issues from Nintendo’s controllers where they basically tell you to spend more money or get bent.
Not me. I never buy anything new. I’m a eBay expert.
You didn't but so many people bought it and complained ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Yeah, I don't think the people complaining are buying them, it's always a vocal minority, the main populace couldn't care less.
They don't mean you. They mean the people in the Nintendo communities who downvote and mod even the slightest criticism of their precious company.
I haven't bought a console since the game cube, and bought a switch for my nephew. When i saw the prices of the games, i was a bit confused. Why is a 8 year old game still full price, why does it have the most disgusting dlc system i have ever seen and so on. I asked that in a nintendo sub Reddit. It wasn't reddit, but i don't remember where. People there were insane tbh. They defended their previous nintendo to the death. Their answer to everything was basically: buy the game and dlc and shut the fuck up, it's worth it.
Yeah but at the same time those people are already tech braindead. Maybe the people that has to go against them it's not the tech brain dead but the people that care about tech ethics. For example, game developers not accepting porting to Nintendo platforms.
I really don't get why indie devs sign contracts with Nintendo, when Nintendo literally holds tons of blood in his hands from destroyed indie games by demands.
They haven't gotten a cent of my money since probably the 3DS, but then again I bought my LL used.
All good, I’m currently lodging a patent on lodging patents for a system for summoning a character.
See you in court, Nintendo!
P.S.: I’m also lodging a patent for a system of pirating every single game on a Nintendo platform (past, present and future), however I will be opening that one up to the public once granted.
No way that holds up when challenged. Gacha games alone prove existing work.
I believe existing work doesn‘t matter much in Japanese patent law for some reason. You either have patented it or you haven‘t. That‘s what we‘ve been seeing with this lawsuit again and again. Honestly, Pocketpal should consider moving to Singapore or something to avoid this bullshit.
This is US law
Absolutely ridiculous this was even granted. What is the point in the system if people are just going to be allowed to patent general ideas and vague concepts. How about I got patent my idea of a gun game. See you in court every game with guns.
Alright, that was unexpected. To be honest it doesn‘t even make sense. I’m assuming they‘ll lose that patent in trial as quickly as they got it then. How ridiculous.
Let's hope so, because this sounds like it could be pretty disastrous doesn't it? But who's gonna afford challenging Nintendo?
Microsoft, Sony, EA, Activision, or Square Enix would be my guess.
You're shocked a corporation got what it wanted from the US government?
We have got to stop saying "you're surprised?" whenever anyone points out something being morally wrong. They didn't say they were surprised, @[email protected] (appropriate username, though).
I think this patent was given in the US
Welp there goes Coromon, Palworld, and a WHOLE lot of indies. Plus wasnt digimon the first not Nintendo?
I think shen megami tensi didn’t before them. Dragon quest might have, but I’m not sure about that one.
Can confirm, DQ5 (1992) had monster catching. Not sure if I'd call it summoning, but Pokemon took clear inspiration from that game in particular.
Digital Debil Story Megami Tensei 1989 beats Pokemon, so Atlus should 100% sue Nintendo to give them a taste of their own medicine.
That's nothing. My parent covers thinking of already long established ideas, then claiming them as your own. If you do that, I've got you.
Apple are doomed.
This happens a lot. Its where yoga came from.
I'm pretty sure SMT has prior art.
Yeah but how many devs and studios can take Nintendo to court to prove that and win?
Most cannot afford to play in our legal system, so Nintendo wins here.
Copyright and patent laws need to die.
I wouldn't say it needs to die but it does need changing quite a bit
Nintendo suing Cloud for summoning Bahamut next
Wtf is with all these patents being granted literally decades after the original concept was implement and if patented then (despite the generic unpatttenable concept) would have already excited by now?
Insane. I summoned shit in video games 40y ago. Fuck you.
Original source:
https://gamesfray.com/last-week-nintendo-and-the-pokemon-company-received-a-u-s-patent-on-summoning-a-character-and-letting-it-fight-another/
I hate to be nitpicky, but try to link the original, and post where you found it (GameRant) in the description instead.
What's interesting is they file this in the US.
Is there a reason they don't file patents in Japan instead?
Pretty sure there's prior art on that now.
The article seems to touch on this saying patent offices struggle to find prior art since they look at previous patent documentation, not previous games.
Does anyone have a patent on making animals fight each other?
How is Pokémon still a thing anyway? Imaginary dogfighting is still fucked up.
You’re not wrong.
But something just feels more wrong about Dog Fighting Simulator 2025 to me.
Probably because you're calling it dog fighter simulator over and over
People hate the truth.
No people hate annoying people. Nobody cares if you don't like Pokemon.
Bro thinks I don’t play Pokémon.
Y'all are so angry.
Weedle is my favorite of the Kanto region. I also like Dwebble and Blitzle from Unova region.
People correctly identifying what you're saying as stupid doesn't mean they're angry. Do you always misinterpret people's emotions so badly?
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I’m actually a big supporter of giving homeless people help to care for their pets. A pets love is unconditional and everyone deserves that feeling.
http://www.petsofthehomeless.org/
Classic Lemmy moment. There's no need to take fiction seriously as if carries onto real life. Let people enjoy things.
Yeah I wasn’t being serious but based on the downvotes I don’t think Lemmy got that.
My intent was actually to fuck over Nintendo with a patent about making your pets fight each other the way they keep gobbling up patents for shit that already exists.
You made a comment that is typically meant with complete seriousness without any indication you were joking. PETA, for example, has an entire anti-Pokemon campaign built on the premise that Pokemon is animal cruelty.
Yeah. I can see it wasn’t clear and then I started trolling people who yelled at me which didn’t help my case.
I should have been more clear, that I was trying to call out the hypocrisy of Nintendo’s lawsuit with Palworld (Pokémon with guns) when their own game could be considered just as immoral by some.
I’m annoyed at companies that would rather sue than compete. Palworld is a different game with different ideas.
It’s on me for not being clear!
BRB going to patents office.
Thank you to the one person who understood my comment.
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The Nintendogs swarmed in, apparently...