They should be killing him on sight, but instead, they are sucking his dick
I'm a bit tickled at folks on here howling over Putin's visit, when we've had American Presidents kissing the Saudi ring for my entire life without this much fuss. Of course, nobody dares put Mohammed bin Salman Al Saud on an ICC warrant. So I guess there's some difference.
War criminal visits with child rapist, and everybody is cool with that.
The Democrats will say this is the worst thing ever. Then Trump leaves office and we send Pete Buttigieg in. And if anyone dares suggest Mayo Pete kowtowing to Benjamin Netanyahu is uncouth, the NYT and the WaPo will scream about antisemitism for a month.
It's the most normal thing in the world for two countries full of war criminals to collaborate.
I'm happy just to call Pootang a cunt, as are the sloppy turds like you who support him and his evil. I know you are a peasant just obeying orders, but that is no excuse.
Have people forgotten another wanted criminal getting 50+ standing ovations in Congress not long ago? On a scale of how America honours war criminals, a red carpet in Alaska seems relatively minor in comparison.
Didn’t work in the Nuremberg trials, so why should it matter here. Some people just like licking boots.
Don’t you see, we SS men were not supposed to think about these things; it never even occurred to us. . . . We were all so trained to obey orders without even thinking that the thought of disobeying an order would simply never have occurred to anybody, and somebody else would have done just as well if I hadn’t. . . . I really never gave much thought to whether it was wrong. It just seemed a necessity.
Rudolf Höss, the commandant at Auschwitz, Nuremberg trials October 1946
Yes an now you see why Outin didnt go to South Africa. Why George W. hasnt travelled outside of US controlled areas since he left office.
And why the russians would not travel with every member of their government. It would be akin to sending Pres. VP and Speaker along with all the department leads to Vietnam to discuss the war back in the day.
It would have been the funniest thing though. As Putin walks down the stairs and Trump greets him with his blowjob lips ready, he gives him a firm handshake, goes in for a hug, and softly whispers in his ears: "You're under arrest bby".
you're either sealioning. or are unable to think for a moment why removing the head of state of a warring country might affect said country's policies.
Sealioning (also sea-lioning and sea lioning) is a type of trolling or harassment that consists of pursuing people with relentless requests for evidence, often tangential or previously addressed, while maintaining a pretense of civility and sincerity ("I'm just trying to have a debate"), and feigning ignorance of the subject matter.[5][6][7][8] It may take the form of "incessant, bad-faith invitations to engage in debate",[9] and has been likened to a denial-of-service attack targeted at human beings.
I don't waste time "answering" ruzzian orcs, bots and cunts, in general. I call you filthy fuckers out.
Go dig a latrine pit for babushka, Yuri. The old one is full and Pootang needs it to recruit more of YOU from!
Right up there with "Do your own fucking research", hey magat?
See, imbecile, we learned long ago that you assholes don't engage honestly. It isn't worth the force of a silent fart, to try to treat you scum as if you're actually intelligent. IRL we'd just spit on you as we walk past the mound of dung that you live in.
Founded on genocide, and for almost a century, has had a fond tradition of invading other countries, whenever said country's political atmosphere was changing against them, or you know, just to blow up a shitload of random brown people.
American taxpayers pay for the healthcare and education and defense of another internationally wanted war criminal for far far far longer, why is this news?
Lol and if I'd said "Putin's bitch" I'd be a misogynist and/or an animal hater, I suppose. People like you for some reason sure love to deflect from the issue at hand, which is that the President of the United States is an obvious servant of a war criminal and enemy of those same United States. Or is that phrasing too disrespectful to servants for you?
Clearly he's following them.
Never stopped arming the Azov nazis, unilaterally ended the missile treaties, expanding NATO to more countries and putting his warcriminal troops there, moire sanctions, etc....
But I'm sure you smart Blue MAMA people can explain all that.
Zelensky will be the one who needs a place to live if Trump cuts off funding and Donbass becomes 100% Russian. Zelensky can either give it up or fight for it and lose. The soldiers won't be happy, the rest of the population won't be happy. Kyiv will burn... similar scenes to early 2014. I think Ukraine needs a revolution.
They are fighting for their independence, their freedom, and that's the best cause in the world ... 'wouldn't you?' My question would be, 'Why can't people understand that?'
He who drinks with the enemy while his ally bleeds is no hero but a fool. You grant him honor while he seeks to burn your and your ally’s home. No word of peace holds meaning while his sword is still raised against those who stand with you.
I’m sure they’re partitioning Ukraine, Canada, Greenland, and the arctic as we speak.
100% serious comment, and fuck America. Not just Trump, not just conservatives, America. Even the ones who will reply about their parents fault or nOT AlL oF us, or even those who could name the opposition parties of other countries let alone Russia or Israel.
Ignorant comment. Fuck America, but not from your perspective. It is deplorable, but the people have been cultivated to be ignorant and malleable. It's deeply flawed, but it's system is rigged to beat everyone down and break their collective will.
Those of us who stand up are divided constantly. We're undermined at every turn. We are marginalized for speaking the truth. Our spirits are broken by the weight of ineffectiveness sold to us as Democracy.
American Exceptionalism is taught from birth and is fully unfounded. There was a time decades ago when the national anthem would give me goosebumps, but now I know that was not excitement. It was subconscious fear of something yet to emerge.
You obviously don't live here. This is my personal resounding "fuck you" while completely mirroring your words. You have no inkling of which you speak. What you would have us do is nigh impossible.
Our only hope is that a unifying event will de-polarize our population and unify our resolve.
It's always saddening to see people regurgitatating the kind of jingoistic rhetoric alt-right parties the world over rely on, as some kind of edgily scathing indictment of just american culture. If an american were to discount everyone from a culture like this, it'd be quite rightly called out as unacceptable. Why is the same behavior somehow acceptable just because it's perceived as turnabout? Doesn't that paint them as identical in rhetoric, but somehow even more bitter in motivation? Just disappointing...
I am serious then. That’s what I am sure they are doing. It’s in the dna(bad rhetorical form; These people give up their humanity by choice.) of these people to do that; look at what zionists and britain did to Palestine.
Yeah but fuck all of the refugees that primarily make up American citizens, who mostly were fleeing dictatorships and horrible rulers. Virtually every American I know has roots in refugee status. That's part of why other countries dislike it so much - because they protected the people they wanted to literally kill. And I can start listing everyone I know and their US immigration story if you want - but we are a nation of refugees, of brave people who stood up for themselves, of people who defied tyrants. Just because online is full of trash and our political system has been ursurped, doesn't mean the average citizen is at fault or bad. Obviously.
As I'm reading these comments on 'Let's Boycott America because of the ties to Russia," I have to wonder, how many Canadians are still buying from U.S. Amazon?
What does that even have to do with it? Are you saying you can't be halfassed about boycotting? Like either you boycott 100% or not at all? Or is this just some nonsense whataboutism?
Whoa, the calls for assassination… this isn’t Reddit for sure.
I guess this is an extreme view on Lemmy, but I’d want my country to host pretty much any war criminal for talks on US soil. Kim Jong Un, Netenyahu, terrorist leaders, cartels, Russias even more violent oligarchs, anyone, just like I’d want a president to risk negotiating on their soil, given the opportunity.
Peaceful negotiation without being ambushed is a human right. It’s building a dialogue for very little cost other than pride. If people want to talk, talk.
Of course don’t validate them with repeated nothingburgers, but still.
Now, how the president behaves and what they negotiate is critical here. This is not an excuse to leave licking a killer's boots.
I certainly wouldn't mind having the US host talks between two conflict parties. But just compare the whole thing to the meetings with Zelenskyy. The US has very obviously picked a side and it's honestly disgusting what is happening here.
But calling for assassination of Putin during an ostensibly diplomatic meeting is, uh, a lot. I guess it’s within the rules of this instance, but still.
There is no negotiating going on, because that would involve Ukraine. This is just two criminals having a secret meeting about what crimes they will do next, and they should both be arrested on the spot.
It is a military base. They are not going to let event planners come with their own staff, only the soldiers can do this work.
The calls for murder of Putin and/or Trump are so stupid and emotional reactions. Killing a foreign diplomat is neither easy nor profitable. People really think killing Putin would stop the war, it won’t. It might actually legitimise the war for Russian public. And why kill him while he is on a peace discussion summit? Don’t you want the war to end?
Of course not - Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. Have you not seen that move with the IDF Woman? The only way to end war is to kill everyone you don't like! Peace just means you have to go to war again later to finish the job!
"Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy" is point 9 from Umberto Eco's "Ur-Fascism" essay. It goes together with point 11, where the idea of a permanent war is manifested as a cult of death. It's short, and an excellent read.
The move is the first new Wonder Woman, staring Gal Gadot, where the plot is WWI, and follows her trying to kill Ares, God of War, who is responsible for the war. In the plot twist, Ares is revealed to be a diplomat working on an armistice, because (I am not making this up) "when you make peace, you can go to war again, so, really, negotiating peace is warmongering", and apparently nobody stopped to think through the implication that we now see unfolding in Gaza.
It's a constant thread I see ever more strongly in "the discourse": there is no disagreement, there is no compromise, there is no negotiation with terrorists - you are either to destroy the enemy, or die trying. Well, have other people die for you, anyway.
They should be killing him on sight, but instead, they are sucking his dick and thanking him for it!
War criminal visits with child rapist, and everybody is cool with that. What a timeline!
I'm a bit tickled at folks on here howling over Putin's visit, when we've had American Presidents kissing the Saudi ring for my entire life without this much fuss. Of course, nobody dares put Mohammed bin Salman Al Saud on an ICC warrant. So I guess there's some difference.
The Democrats will say this is the worst thing ever. Then Trump leaves office and we send Pete Buttigieg in. And if anyone dares suggest Mayo Pete kowtowing to Benjamin Netanyahu is uncouth, the NYT and the WaPo will scream about antisemitism for a month.
It's the most normal thing in the world for two countries full of war criminals to collaborate.
Blue MAGA is the definition of hypocrisy
What country have you been living in? This happens like every week.
Better invite some Azov nazis right?
Homophobia is fine if it targets bad people!
Gee, I wonder if there's any subtext or history to sucking dick being considered "ultimate submission".
Nah, let's not examine that. I'm sure it's fine.
It's funny, seeing a magat virgin commenting on matters of sex. Most magats are so repulsive, they are going to die virgins LOL.
Very normal response to being told not to be a homophobe
Everyone who isn't a virgin, is a homophobe now? LOL moron magat!
You really are a vile person
I am laughing my arse off - all these Russian trolls pretending to be offended 🤣
Just click on commenting history of any of these morons. They are paid Putin's shills.
Yeah, imagine being offended at people using homophobic insults.
You have poor reading comprehension.
No, I comprehend just fine, you're just dishonest.
Gee, certainly no homophobic subtext there....
Where? Please explain
Imagine Hitler getting this treatment from FDR in 1940. I mean this is insane.
This is more like Hitler getting this treatment from Mussolini, though.
Or Saddam in the 90s...
Or any victim of USA imperialism/genocide.
We got the timeline where Charles Lindberg won.
You mean this guy?
nazi capitalists gonna do nazi capitalist things.
No no no. We're calling Putin and Trump communists now. Because its the government doing things, so its communism when that happens.
I'm happy just to call Pootang a cunt, as are the sloppy turds like you who support him and his evil. I know you are a peasant just obeying orders, but that is no excuse.
Ha, you fucking donkeys!
Release the Trump/Epstein files
Why? We all no, and 'facts' dobt convince people who still don't.
Maybe jyst leave both assholes in a room togetger, along with their entourages?
Have people forgotten another wanted criminal getting 50+ standing ovations in Congress not long ago? On a scale of how America honours war criminals, a red carpet in Alaska seems relatively minor in comparison.
You mean yaroslav hunka?
The Hunka thing was legitimately dumb and embarrassing, but not close to being on the same scale as the US treatment of Netanyahu.
The Dems better be using this photo everywhere.
They won't. Too insulting to "the troops". Gotta maintain fashy liberalism.
What did you expect? Usa is pretty much warcriminal heaven
When people talk about the “service” soldiers provide, remember this.
100% they were ordered to do this.
Now, is it on them for joining an organization that can take control of your own actions away? Yes.
But these guys didn't roll out the red carpet because they felt like it. Ain't nobody wanna do that crap.
Yeah that's why "just following orders" is not just dumb but actually evil.
Didn’t work in the Nuremberg trials, so why should it matter here. Some people just like licking boots.
Guys it's okay, it's just his way of thanking him for getting him elected
Someone should take those 2 cunts out
I'm sure you've heard it before... but, don't insult cunts like that. Cunts have warmth and depth, and bring forth life.
These two are more like black holes, sucking up all they can and distorting the fabric of reality.
Interesting
could have ended the war by just arresting Putin, but then Putin would release the Epstein files
The US is not signed to that agreement. As usual they lay the law not follow it.
Arresting him as if he would not have people in place that would only love to show their strength and take his place.
Yes an now you see why Outin didnt go to South Africa. Why George W. hasnt travelled outside of US controlled areas since he left office.
And why the russians would not travel with every member of their government. It would be akin to sending Pres. VP and Speaker along with all the department leads to Vietnam to discuss the war back in the day.
It would have been the funniest thing though. As Putin walks down the stairs and Trump greets him with his blowjob lips ready, he gives him a firm handshake, goes in for a hug, and softly whispers in his ears: "You're under arrest bby".
why does trump care, doesn't he have immunity
Arride him?
It was Brresting.
....the next word alphabetically?
arret noun ar·ret aˈre, -rā plural -s : a judgment, decision, or decree of a court or sovereign
You're telling me the next russian regime would then arrest Trump?
any more good reasons to arrest Putin?
I am intrigued. Since it should start with B, you couldn't have meant any of:
C - castrate
D - defenstrate
E - execute
F - finish him off
G - garrote him
H - hit him with a hammer
I - ignite him
Etc.
But what would Trump suck if you were to do such thing???
These all seem like good options. Why not ALL of them?
Just bomb the building where the meet.
How would that have ended the war? I swear liberals think reality is Lord of the Rings
pretty sure Russia losing their head tyrant would put an dent in their military operations
Why?
if you need those things explained, do you also need toilet paper to come with written instructions on each sheet?
Lol, I've got three separate people resorting to “dude, if you don’t know, I’m not gonna tell you! You’re stupid!”
you're either sealioning. or are unable to think for a moment why removing the head of state of a warring country might affect said country's policies.
So you've moved the goalpost from "would end the war" to "might affect policy"
Fucking ruzzian loving sea lion spotted....
Sealioning (also sea-lioning and sea lioning) is a type of trolling or harassment that consists of pursuing people with relentless requests for evidence, often tangential or previously addressed, while maintaining a pretense of civility and sincerity ("I'm just trying to have a debate"), and feigning ignorance of the subject matter.[5][6][7][8] It may take the form of "incessant, bad-faith invitations to engage in debate",[9] and has been likened to a denial-of-service attack targeted at human beings.
In short, you have no answer
I don't waste time "answering" ruzzian orcs, bots and cunts, in general. I call you filthy fuckers out. Go dig a latrine pit for babushka, Yuri. The old one is full and Pootang needs it to recruit more of YOU from!
Least deranged .worlder
Take this brain out of a box and use it.
You really thought that dunk was so clever you'd reuse it?
How much shit I am willing to give about your opinion:
Enough to keep replying
Notice they can only reply with “Dude, if you don’t know, I’m not gonna tell you! You’re stupid!”
Right up there with "Do your own fucking research", hey magat? See, imbecile, we learned long ago that you assholes don't engage honestly. It isn't worth the force of a silent fart, to try to treat you scum as if you're actually intelligent. IRL we'd just spit on you as we walk past the mound of dung that you live in.
— the Clash, (White Man) In Hammersmith Palais
the US/UK sure saved a lot of WW2 nazis, even made them head of NATO and other organisations
Shoot the enemy combatant and hang the traitors.
On their knees for Putin.
Slava Ukraini!
They should have rolled out a blue and yellow rug with sunflower seeds handed to him
.ca? I bet your forefathers moved there somewhere around 1945 right?
Internationally wanted war criminal - mate of Trump. That's the difference.
At least trump didn't sell Alaska back to Russia. ..Wait I've been at work all day... Trump didn't sell Alaska back to Russia did he?
If I lived in Alaska, I would worry.
not that i'm aware of. shrug
What else would you expect from a genocidal empire?
Founded on genocide, and for almost a century, has had a fond tradition of invading other countries, whenever said country's political atmosphere was changing against them, or you know, just to blow up a shitload of random brown people.
My veteran grandfather is ROLLING IN HIS FUCKING GRAVE RIGHT NOW.
Why? Because it always was about Russians, not Communism?
wdym why? ...
What is the revolting part?
Run home back to Putin, you fucking paid Russian troll.
Don't you feel manipulated if you think that the reasons for the wars are the same?
Pathetic.
American taxpayers pay for the healthcare and education and defense of another internationally wanted war criminal for far far far longer, why is this news?
Because he isnt an american politician and was, up until president pedo, considered an agitator at best, active enemy at worst.
They also put out the red carpet for their own war criminal that let Isreal get away with genocide. They have so much in common! <3
They'd do the same for Netanyahu for sure.
Did
A complete disgrace and two fucking felons meeting. If Krasnov meets up with the shitstain Vlad, he should stay in fucking Moscow.
The carpets only red so the blood doesn't show if someone shoots Putin. Why ruin a perfectly good non red carpet?
Black is usually the better choice for that. It'd dry dark.
home of the brave... lol
On the plus side: anyone who made a deal with the orange got screwed - ask Elon.
Trump isn't there to make a deal. He's there to receive orders.
Like he can't communicate with Putin by phone? He's there to show the world that he's Putin's boy toy.
You can't scratch the dog's head and say "who's a good boy?" on the phone.
Liberals sure love to get homophobic when they think they have an "acceptable" target
Lol and if I'd said "Putin's bitch" I'd be a misogynist and/or an animal hater, I suppose. People like you for some reason sure love to deflect from the issue at hand, which is that the President of the United States is an obvious servant of a war criminal and enemy of those same United States. Or is that phrasing too disrespectful to servants for you?
Using misogynistic slurs makes you a misogynist, yes.
So what? Bigotry is bad, regardless of whether it's "the issue at hand"
Every president of the US in my life time has been a war criminal
Clearly he's following them.
Never stopped arming the Azov nazis, unilaterally ended the missile treaties, expanding NATO to more countries and putting his warcriminal troops there, moire sanctions, etc....
But I'm sure you smart Blue MAMA people can explain all that.
Hey shithead, don't get a nosebleed trying to reply to all the comments here with your pro-russian garbage.
Account made in February - 1700 comments.
Totally a normal person you guys.
Quickly start scavenging for some dirt!
Look at Mc Carthy here you guys
Anti-commie
Anti-fascist
Pro-EU
Pro-NATO
Is pro NATO who have supported nazis since forever but also anti-fascist.
Most coherent US imperialism supporter.
Voluntarily joining a defence alliance = imperialism
Illegally occupying land, raping and murdering civilians, abducting children = self-defence against US imperialism
Get ass-blasted, tankie.
(3 comments in 3 minutes!)
Kneelers be kneeling
We are also international criminals but we kinda established the courts
Absolute shame
Pathetic
How else are you gonna feel like a legend in your own mind, having a red carpet would do it?
Should have nuked the plane, you literally knew where he was.
Don't need a nuke. Just a few bullets or a missile. Over an ocean as well. Would have just disappeared off the map
America licks Russian taint. LOL.
I think Donald Trump arranged a plan B (place to live) with his buddy Vladimir just in case things don't work out for him in the United States
Zelensky will be the one who needs a place to live if Trump cuts off funding and Donbass becomes 100% Russian. Zelensky can either give it up or fight for it and lose. The soldiers won't be happy, the rest of the population won't be happy. Kyiv will burn... similar scenes to early 2014. I think Ukraine needs a revolution.
Thanks for the hot take Ivan.
I hope you're pronouncing that as eeee-van and not pronouncing it with a thick American accent and bad phonics ;)
What do jackboots taste like?
They are fighting for their independence, their freedom, and that's the best cause in the world ... 'wouldn't you?' My question would be, 'Why can't people understand that?'
I hope Donny and Pootin won't hurt their ears :)
He who drinks with the enemy while his ally bleeds is no hero but a fool. You grant him honor while he seeks to burn your and your ally’s home. No word of peace holds meaning while his sword is still raised against those who stand with you.
I’m sure they’re partitioning Ukraine, Canada, Greenland, and the arctic as we speak.
100% serious comment, and fuck America. Not just Trump, not just conservatives, America. Even the ones who will reply about their parents fault or nOT AlL oF us, or even those who could name the opposition parties of other countries let alone Russia or Israel.
Ignorant comment. Fuck America, but not from your perspective. It is deplorable, but the people have been cultivated to be ignorant and malleable. It's deeply flawed, but it's system is rigged to beat everyone down and break their collective will.
Those of us who stand up are divided constantly. We're undermined at every turn. We are marginalized for speaking the truth. Our spirits are broken by the weight of ineffectiveness sold to us as Democracy.
American Exceptionalism is taught from birth and is fully unfounded. There was a time decades ago when the national anthem would give me goosebumps, but now I know that was not excitement. It was subconscious fear of something yet to emerge.
You obviously don't live here. This is my personal resounding "fuck you" while completely mirroring your words. You have no inkling of which you speak. What you would have us do is nigh impossible.
Our only hope is that a unifying event will de-polarize our population and unify our resolve.
While we stand divided we shall fall united.
Fuck you.
It's always saddening to see people regurgitatating the kind of jingoistic rhetoric alt-right parties the world over rely on, as some kind of edgily scathing indictment of just american culture. If an american were to discount everyone from a culture like this, it'd be quite rightly called out as unacceptable. Why is the same behavior somehow acceptable just because it's perceived as turnabout? Doesn't that paint them as identical in rhetoric, but somehow even more bitter in motivation? Just disappointing...
Fuck all of us, if we could be better we would be
I am serious then. That’s what I am sure they are doing. It’s in the
dna(bad rhetorical form; These people give up their humanity by choice.) of these people to do that; look at what zionists and britain did to Palestine.Biological determinism is Nazi shit
Sigh. clearly you understood the rhetoric.
These people give up their humanity by choice.
Ok ty
"I don't like genocide so I want to advocate for genociding an entire country made up of a significant amount of refugees"
Bro what
There is no advocting for genocide in that comment. "Fuck you" isn't genocide.
Yeah but fuck all of the refugees that primarily make up American citizens, who mostly were fleeing dictatorships and horrible rulers. Virtually every American I know has roots in refugee status. That's part of why other countries dislike it so much - because they protected the people they wanted to literally kill. And I can start listing everyone I know and their US immigration story if you want - but we are a nation of refugees, of brave people who stood up for themselves, of people who defied tyrants. Just because online is full of trash and our political system has been ursurped, doesn't mean the average citizen is at fault or bad. Obviously.
Then I guess we ought to just block you if none of us are good in your eyes.
As I'm reading these comments on 'Let's Boycott America because of the ties to Russia," I have to wonder, how many Canadians are still buying from U.S. Amazon?
What does that even have to do with it? Are you saying you can't be halfassed about boycotting? Like either you boycott 100% or not at all? Or is this just some nonsense whataboutism?
I mean there is no good reason not to boycott Amazon in every way possible.
Amazon is one of the many American things that increasing numbers of Canadians are boycotting.
that ain't putin. body double
Oh boo hoo.
That's probably the most productive thing American soldiers do anyways.
I got a buddy in military who mostly plays video games.
No one cares! It has nothing to do with boycott.
It does, shit like this is exactly why I'm boycotting US products.
Whoa, the calls for assassination… this isn’t Reddit for sure.
I guess this is an extreme view on Lemmy, but I’d want my country to host pretty much any war criminal for talks on US soil. Kim Jong Un, Netenyahu, terrorist leaders, cartels, Russias even more violent oligarchs, anyone, just like I’d want a president to risk negotiating on their soil, given the opportunity.
Peaceful negotiation without being ambushed is a human right. It’s building a dialogue for very little cost other than pride. If people want to talk, talk.
Of course don’t validate them with repeated nothingburgers, but still.
Now, how the president behaves and what they negotiate is critical here. This is not an excuse to leave licking a killer's boots.
I certainly wouldn't mind having the US host talks between two conflict parties. But just compare the whole thing to the meetings with Zelenskyy. The US has very obviously picked a side and it's honestly disgusting what is happening here.
Right. Of course.
But calling for assassination of Putin during an ostensibly diplomatic meeting is, uh, a lot. I guess it’s within the rules of this instance, but still.
Oh, that's what you meant - you're right. I'm pretty sure this kind of speech wouldn't be allowed on reddit.
No fuck Putin, the sooner he dies the better. Why are you so intent on licking the boots of that stain on humanity?
Literally advocating for a war crime, ironically enough.
Killing diplomats or those on diplomatic missions has been beyond the pale for almost every civilization since forever.
We are talking about a war criminal here, not diplomats.
There is no negotiating going on, because that would involve Ukraine. This is just two criminals having a secret meeting about what crimes they will do next, and they should both be arrested on the spot.
Imagine all the heads of state who could have killed Hitler if they'd just known he was a bad hombre.
It is a military base. They are not going to let event planners come with their own staff, only the soldiers can do this work.
The calls for murder of Putin and/or Trump are so stupid and emotional reactions. Killing a foreign diplomat is neither easy nor profitable. People really think killing Putin would stop the war, it won’t. It might actually legitimise the war for Russian public. And why kill him while he is on a peace discussion summit? Don’t you want the war to end?
Of course not - Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. Have you not seen that move with the IDF Woman? The only way to end war is to kill everyone you don't like! Peace just means you have to go to war again later to finish the job!
I literally understood zero of what you said. I am not aware of any of the things you mentioned. I don’t even know if you are being sarcastic
I am.
"Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy" is point 9 from Umberto Eco's "Ur-Fascism" essay. It goes together with point 11, where the idea of a permanent war is manifested as a cult of death. It's short, and an excellent read.
The move is the first new Wonder Woman, staring Gal Gadot, where the plot is WWI, and follows her trying to kill Ares, God of War, who is responsible for the war. In the plot twist, Ares is revealed to be a diplomat working on an armistice, because (I am not making this up) "when you make peace, you can go to war again, so, really, negotiating peace is warmongering", and apparently nobody stopped to think through the implication that we now see unfolding in Gaza.
It's a constant thread I see ever more strongly in "the discourse": there is no disagreement, there is no compromise, there is no negotiation with terrorists - you are either to destroy the enemy, or die trying. Well, have other people die for you, anyway.
This is the part that most people miss when they support wars in foreign lands.