It seems like a lot of the slop posters will just brag about it, like "I made this using Grok! 😁" Lately I'm seeing a LOT of AI shills trying to AstroTurf Lemmy one post at a time.
First off, screw Grok. Screw Musk and Altman and all the AI Bros anarcho capitalist pyramid schemer con artists hyping BS to steal from others, and all their acolytes. Screw the lazy GenAI slop posts, they can get banned or downvoted.
Lately I’m seeing a LOT of AI shills trying to AstroTurf Lemmy one post at a time.
Yeah... Well, to be clear, I'm one of those 'AI shills.'
I'm not astroturfing. But I feel beaten down trying to make a distinction between a 'self hosted ML tool user' and 'tech bro' to a community that just wants to brigade and hate anything that even smells like AI. It just leads to false accusations against innocent, artistic posters like this, not to speak of artists hand drawing stuff but using ethical ML tools for post-processing or something. This just happens to be a more innocuous case where OP is around to reply and has instant proof.
IMO, dogpiling on posters one suspects of using AI (where it's not obvious, and theres no profit/promotion motive) is like trying to dogpile on a poster over aspects of their personal identity. However you feel about any 'AI,' IMO it's just not worth it: leads to paranoia and unfair persecution, and that culture is why many of us left Reddit.
It's so bad. I post a lot, but I always make sure to look at the artists profile, the art tags, and look at fine details. I still see people accuse ai on anything "too good" even if it was posted prior to 2023 when all this took off
i wouldnt say its harmless. if people treat everything likes its AI, it becomes the norm and a subgroup pf people stop treating calls against AI seriously.
The boy who cried wolf is a retold story for a reason.
Its also arguably equally as offensive to call an actual artists work AI in the same vein as the oppsite.
Disagreed. It often gets argumentative and hostile, and it's usually futile. It spams up the comment sections and invites downvotes for what might be a false accusation.
...And does it really matter, if it's not obvious and seems hand drawn? Or photographed, CGI'd or whatever.
I think its only does if OP is trying to sell it, promote themselves or something scummy like that (which is clearly not the case here).
The consistency of the fingers, the continuity of the falling strap on their right shoulder, and the difference in detail levels between the character and background were the tells for me that it was probably real. Also now that I'm looking again, no shading that doesn't make logical sense.
There is no background breakage, no melting details (even those who fix AI slop sometimes leave them in the end product), no sepia tone, so it's not AI slop.
I just meant they are probably going to establish an authoritarian regime which will continue to execute people over hearsay until everyone who partakes in it is dead. Or something that's an analog for that.
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Well shit.
I’m not gonna shit in someone’s well that’s just fucked up
Thank you! I put a lot of effort into my shits :)
She needs to eat something. Great drawing, though!
🤐
So pretty
Pretty! Love the freckles and her makeup!
She's my type too (tired)
dammnnnn wtf
im super jealous of both of you (her looks and your art skills)
Cute!
I LOVE your art style!
thanks!
I like this picture, but the color of the clothes make them look like they belong to a grandma.
::: spoiler spoiler it wasn't originally drawn with clothes :::
Where original 👀
DM me for it, I guess? Don't know if I'm allowed to post it here
Cute!
is that lady dmc
boooo ai slop
Huh? I drew this.
yaaaay real drawing
:D
omg Im really sorry, I thought it was ai ;-;, it looks nice tho
that's why it helps to keep project files lol
Your style is just changing a bunch. These new ones are so glossy that i was also confused for a second until i saw the familiar username.
fair; I've always been pretty inconsistent
That's a form of consistency at least! Lol
On the plus side, I think my style is too inconsistent to train a model!
I think communities (or even instances?) need rules about ai slop accusations.
It's its in like every image post's comment section now.
It seems like a lot of the slop posters will just brag about it, like "I made this using Grok! 😁" Lately I'm seeing a LOT of AI shills trying to AstroTurf Lemmy one post at a time.
Well, would you rather them NOT tell you it is AI? I don't think it's bragging, it's disclosure
First off, screw Grok. Screw Musk and Altman and all the AI Bros anarcho capitalist pyramid schemer con artists hyping BS to steal from others, and all their acolytes. Screw the lazy GenAI slop posts, they can get banned or downvoted.
Yeah... Well, to be clear, I'm one of those 'AI shills.'
I'm not astroturfing. But I feel beaten down trying to make a distinction between a 'self hosted ML tool user' and 'tech bro' to a community that just wants to brigade and hate anything that even smells like AI. It just leads to false accusations against innocent, artistic posters like this, not to speak of artists hand drawing stuff but using ethical ML tools for post-processing or something. This just happens to be a more innocuous case where OP is around to reply and has instant proof.
IMO, dogpiling on posters one suspects of using AI (where it's not obvious, and theres no profit/promotion motive) is like trying to dogpile on a poster over aspects of their personal identity. However you feel about any 'AI,' IMO it's just not worth it: leads to paranoia and unfair persecution, and that culture is why many of us left Reddit.
Sorry to vent.
Personally I much do prefer handmade art, so yeah, I get what they're saying.
It's so bad. I post a lot, but I always make sure to look at the artists profile, the art tags, and look at fine details. I still see people accuse ai on anything "too good" even if it was posted prior to 2023 when all this took off
Counterpoint: It's funny and harmless. Only by discussing what is(n't) AI slop will we get better at finding it.
i wouldnt say its harmless. if people treat everything likes its AI, it becomes the norm and a subgroup pf people stop treating calls against AI seriously.
The boy who cried wolf is a retold story for a reason.
Its also arguably equally as offensive to call an actual artists work AI in the same vein as the oppsite.
Disagreed. It often gets argumentative and hostile, and it's usually futile. It spams up the comment sections and invites downvotes for what might be a false accusation.
...And does it really matter, if it's not obvious and seems hand drawn? Or photographed, CGI'd or whatever.
I think its only does if OP is trying to sell it, promote themselves or something scummy like that (which is clearly not the case here).
It's also incredibly insulting to work on a piece like this and just be accused of generating it. Or maybe it's a compliment?
I'm not sure how I feel about it lol
You should feel great, because your work is fantastic ✨
Pretty sure it's not. Just look at their previous posts.
The consistency of the fingers, the continuity of the falling strap on their right shoulder, and the difference in detail levels between the character and background were the tells for me that it was probably real. Also now that I'm looking again, no shading that doesn't make logical sense.
Also, the pixels and having seen quite a few AI fakes in my time
Though now that you mention it, I think I kinda messed up her right hand
Nah it looks great, I used to illustrate and I know that hands will never look perfect to the artist, you can merely approach close to perfection.
I don't care what people think about being accurate this guy is on track to become the next Robespierre and I support that idea very much.
I can’t tell apart ai and actual art anymore 😔
There is no background breakage, no melting details (even those who fix AI slop sometimes leave them in the end product), no sepia tone, so it's not AI slop.
I was actually considering putting an overlay on top of it to make it look warmer! Good thing I didn't lol
Still not as bad as what GPT4o does...
thanks, saved for later
How do you mean, next Robespierre?
This means that eventually the accuser will also become accused and executed. At least I think that is what they meant.
I just meant they are probably going to establish an authoritarian regime which will continue to execute people over hearsay until everyone who partakes in it is dead. Or something that's an analog for that.