[RANT] I pay $70/mo for this privilege
I thought data caps for home internet were a thing of the past…
I’ve somewhat recently moved back to a very rural area of the Midwest. Small town. No stop lights. Biggest businesses other than the bars are Casey’s, Subway, and Dollar General.
And we have one ISP (not counting DSL) — Mediacom. When we first signed up, I had to go with the second service tier. But not because of speeds, but so I could have a reasonable 1 TB/mo data cap.
Lucky me, they increased the cap to 1.5 TB. 🙄
I hope that in my lifetime I can see ISPs regulated as a public utility.
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In Switzerland you get unlimited 10 Gbit/s for 50 bucks.
I hate you, congrats!
In Canada we have to give our firstborn to a telecommunication monopoly for somewhat OK internet.
Somewhat OK internet on the infrastructure our taxes paid for and the government handed over to Bell and Rogers, but don't worry, they'll stop all the other evil corporations from coming in and giving us cheaper internet.
I pay 90 ish Canadian pesos for 1gb/1gb for Bell fibre. It's not too bad depending on your location, though that price is still too high. I'm at least making good use of it. 12tb of total transfers this month.
I pay 80$ for 1gb/750mb with bell. I could upgrade to 3/3 for 120$ but then they'd change my modem and the homehub 3000 was the last one I could remove the transceiver and plug fiber directly in my server opnsense router.
Wait, how'd you get that with Bell? I'm pretty sure my plan is the same speeds for like... double that amount
I have a permanent $30 discount from when I signed up. Also, apologies, I mixed up the price with my cell plan. 90 not 60.
what the hell
WTF? 25gbps? Dang we really do have shitty internet in the States.
And /48 IPv6 subnet included! As it should be!
A /48 is quite overkill for a home customer. Do you have 65536 LANs at home? Here in Belgium, we get a /56.
They're just preparing for one day when you have your own personal swarm of nano bots
Is it actually 10Gbit/s or just marketing? And how's the latency?
The latency for 1Gbit/s is amazing, and i seem to get that speed. But i really don't have the hardware for more anyways.
Yeah, but those are metric bits so they are a little bit smaller.
And for 80$/month you can get 25Gbps!
🔫 hand over the internet bill
Omg
And France gets 5Gbps for €30 per month or 8Gbps for €40 per month. I’m in the US now and really miss free.fr as my ISP
I'm suddenly more motivated to do my French lessons on Duolingo now.
I know right! Free.fr was a real disruptor. They fought the government to open telecom to private companies (it used to be France Telecom only which is gov owned) then they worked with the gov to create a fiber network that can be used my multiple ISP. So no running parallel lines from separate companies, they all create, maintain and share the same network all over the country. Before that, they started as the first free dialup internet service. You would call a number, and connect. You were paying with ads. They also were the first DSL speed, first TV over DSL, first FTTH, first VoIP, and they also have a cell phone network. And the prices are forcing all the other companies to align. We seriously need free.for in the US.
What average consumer has hardware that's actually capable of using more than 1Gbps?
Average none, though 2.5 Gbps is getting more and more common and WiFi is catching up too. You could max out multiple slower devices at the same time without hitting the limit of your uplink. I don’t have a use case for that, so I’d only upgrade from my current 1 Gbps to higher speeds if the price is comparable. That doesn’t mean that others don’t have a use case for it.
Most decent to higher end desktops have at least 2.5 Gbps. Even a laptop/desktop that doesn't can get a 2.5 Gbps usb-c to ethernet dongle for like $30-$40.
Higher end access points also have 2.5 Gbps. I have no issue maxing out my 1.5 Gbps (ISP over provisions the lines so I get 1.7 gbps) on Steam. Also keep in mind that when you have a faster connection with multiple devices/people, each device/person might be able to pull 1 Gbps. As in if you have 2 Gbps internet service even 2 older computers that only have a gigabit internet connection, each could get the full gigabit to them.
If you're the type of person that only uses wifi, you won't see a difference between gigabit and multigigabit connections but plenty of people have ethernet throughout their homes and they make use of faster than gigabit connections.
2.5GbE and 5GbE is now in average consumer hardware. Also 10GbE router costs about 100$.
I'm not convinced mobile deserves to have caps at all, either!
As far as I'm concerned, there's no reason to limit the amount of data transfer except in times of congestion, and I also don't see any reason the amount of data transferred during un-congested times should have any bearing on who gets throttled.
You're way overpaying. I pay $40 for 1.5 Gbps with Bell FTTH. Give them a call and say it's too expensive and see what they can do for you. Or tell them Rogers (if they're in your area) offered you 1.5gbps for $60 and ask if they can beat that.
As for mobile, you should look at new plans. $39 gets you 20 GB $50 gets you 40 GB. Seems like plenty of data imo https://www.koodomobile.com/en/rate-plans?INTCMP=KM_HDD_2023_Plans_RatePlans_40gbfor45_ROC_MBSK
Best time to get a mobile plan is Black Friday, should be even better deals by then.
Home internet data caps WERE a thing of the past when Obama appointed Tom Wheeler as FCC chairman, who then pushed rulings to classify ISPs as a public utility and started enforcing net neutrality. Companies that didn't play ball started getting fined until they fell in line. Being a former executive for a major ISP, he was very familiar with the anti-competitive practices and underhanded tricks those companies had been using for years; and he used those practices against them to finally make some pro-consumer progress for internet access in the US.
Then, Trump came in and put Ajit Pai in charge of the FCC (no joke, my phone kept auto correcting his name to Shit Pie). Anyways, Shit Pie tore down those rulings and undid all those years of progress as part of the Trump administration's anti-Obama initiative. Even though it was proven time and again that what he did was directly against public opinion, and that ISPs were flooding the public commentary with bot posts(some even made by dead people); Shit Pie continued to meme about himself and drink from an obnoxiously large Reese's coffee mug while doing so. At this point, every provider of internet services has added back data caps in the US, and they have continued to increase their prices to maintain that 99.9% profit margin. They've also locked down more areas to prevent municipal broadband services from forming, and they're even pushing for legislation to prevent them from ever happening.
The current administration has done absolutely nothing. In fact, they've been so unremarkable, I have no idea who is in charge of the FCC, and I don't feel like looking it up.
In Thailand I'm getting 400Mbps upload and download with unlimited data.
It costs about 300฿/mo ≈ $8.7/mo
'Murica #1!!! (In high internet prices)
But you also get paid less
Median income is $23k in Thailand. $31k in US. It definitely doesn't make up the difference.Edit: Used Personal income for US and Household for Thailand. It actually doesn't bring the gap significantly closer.
Why are you using median household income for Thailand and median personal income for the US?
Median household income in the US is $71,000.
Good call. I didn't even think to specify household vs personal. My mistake. I'll edit to fix.
Although I agree that people get paid less here, I highly doubt that it costs an ISP in the US 8x more to transfer data than an ISP in Thailand.
I'm not really trying to argue that Thai internet is cheap, it's that internet elsewhere is exorbitantly expensive.
What kind of rube works in the same country they live in? I met a lot of WFH workers when I visited Thailand, and not a single one of them was working for a company in Thailand.
I have luckily never heard about data caps in Scandinavia except for mobile broadband.
Do they even exist at all, here?
I had a friend years ago that had a cap, but that was literally the only one I've heard of in my life here (Sweden)
My first (fast) internet connection was 1 Mbit.
We had 1gb to download per month. This cap disappeared when more competitors showed up though (i had that cap around ... 2001)
I havnt seen a data cap for internet connections since. I am not aware of any either. Except for mobile phones. Though, they also have unlimited data for those , if you want. (I have. Just so i never have to worry about it ever again)
Yeah, the ISP cartels sucks. I've been stuck paying $170/mo for uncapped 1000/35mbps connection.
Thankfully, before the end of the year, a local ISP is moving into my area. They offer uncapped symmetrical gigabit, for $75/mo... I'll be saving $95/mo for BETTER service.
The longstanding ISP cartels should seriously be punished for the abuse of their market positions and failure to appropriately use government funding they've been given.
$40 for 2 Gbps unlimited in Singapore. Caps on home broadband are frankly nonsensical.
In Germany we pay lots of money for 5G data volume. For me I got 20 Gigs for about 40 bucks, this is mostly Not a thing in the rest of Europe. But data plans on landlines are really dumb.
Well mobile data is very different. With fibre optic you can generally keep provisioning more cables and a single cable already carries a huge amount already.
Radio has an absolute efficiency limit for the bandwidth of a signal and we're pretty damn close to that now.
5g uses wider bandwidth channels, with more cells closer together and uses things like beamforming. But there's still always going to be an upper limit that is considerably lower than fibre.
This is why they likely want to discourage 5g becoming a full alternative to wired, because there's just not the capacity to do it on the same scale.
Mobile is a shared medium and can only support a certain amount of bandwidth per phone mast (in a certain area). A mobile phone network heavily relies on most users not using their data plans most of the time.
In France at least I doubt it.
The only time I remember caps on landlines was when 56k modem were still the norm. Once ADSL was rolled out there was pretty much no caps anymore.
I think the fact that we had some healthy competition for landlines from the get go in my country meant the ISPs couldn't get that much greedy and put caps in place. So it never ended being common where I live.
And when it was old school modems, well you were already paying for the phone communications anyway when connected to the internet so it wasn't really unlimited anyway.
Well, I’m in portugal, which does NOT have a lot of healthy competition in the communication space, and as far as I remember there haven’t been data caps (I’m 18, so last 10 years is what I reasonably remember regarding being online), so I’ve always assumed it had to be some European level law
Agreed. In the past you would pay for calling and text messages and data was often unlimited at the higher tiers, but since nobody pays extra for calling and texting anymore, they’re now charging for data. Luckily they can’t charge extra for EU roaming anymore.
Data caps on landlines is something that I haven’t seen for a very long time in my EU country. The last time I had a subscription with a data cap must have been with a 56k modem, if at all. Cable and DSL might have had fair use policies back in the day (or maybe they still do, who knows), but no hard cap. Or at least not that I can remember.
Internet nowadays is way too important to have data caps, especially at home. 5G should definitely be next. Differentiate in speed all you want, but ditch the caps.
There are still plans with data caps in Belgium, this is limited to the "cheapest" plans though at about 30 EUR a month
Belgium has them
Belgium also has free parking I've heard.
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Data caps do exist in Europe, but they're generally reserved for ultra cheap data plans. Something like €5 for 100mbit speeds. So you get a decent connection, but limited in traffic instead. Which makes sense.
While it's stupid that ISPs are using their monopolies to screw consumers, the concept of data caps is not as stupid as you might think.
You're not just paying for the connection between you and the ISP, but also all the other data links that get your internet traffic to its destination. For example, those cables across the ocean are owned third parties and they charge money for every byte that goes through. It wouldn't be unreasonable for ISPs to pass that cost to users.
Furthermore, most links are overprovisioned in order to keep costs down. For example, if you assume that users only use 10% of their bandwidth on average, that means you can fit 10x as many people on a connection (or maybe 8x to account for peaks). This does mean that users should be discouraged from using their full bandwidth for long durations, otherwise the network operators can't overprovision as much and have to invest more in infrastructure.
In Denmark, I pay
19€ ($21) for 1000GB of mobile data (they call it 'unlimited', but the small text says they may cut you off at 1000GB). Of course, I rarely use more than 50GB a month on my phone.weint auf deutsch
I'm moving to another provider next month to increase from 8GB@€30 to 15GB€25... Those are per month...
25€ for 15G is also way too much. I now pay 5,99 for 7GB. (Also germany, monthly cancellable, sim.de [No advertisement])
You should look here for good prices.
Vielen Dank!, The problem is I need the Telekom Network otherwise I pay for nothing as the other ones won't have reception :(
You can untick the other providers. I found this one for example.
This is what I am talking about … Most countries in Europe just gives you kinda unlimited data plans… look at this crap I rarely need mobile data because I work from home but if my landline has an interruption I can barely work 1 or 2 days with that if I tweak data consumption on my work laptop.
I have to use O2's 5G (using a landline would be much slower) and there's no data cap on it. Costs €35/month, around the same as a regular landline contract. I think they'd cry foul if I tried using that SIM in a phone though.
I know ppl does this because of the crappy infrastructure in our beautiful country. I am in Berlin with 60 Mbit/s, fiber cable alread installed into my house but somethings missing yet to activate the line lol
I'm in Berlin too, born and raised. 5G is still twice as fast as any landline available in my building.
Check out Vodafone if you’re younger than 28. I’m paying 22€/month with their Gigakombi for unlimited 5G.
Way beyond that ;)
Pretty much a thing in NL and afaik also BE.
source: am Dutch.
T mobile NL, 5G capped at 22GB. Cost: 20 euro.
35 euro in NL wl give you t mobile unlimited which is capped at 15 GB per day. Other providers charge more or less the same.
@home internet 1up/down GB fiber 45 euro. No datacap.
I'm reading all the comments and I'm shocked... In France, with uncapped access and 1Gbps down/600Mbps up (theorical) I pay 40€/mo (30€ every six month when I call to complain that it's too expensive). And it's definitely not the cheapest provider.
That's insane !
I was very close to closing on a house in rural midwest but I checked isp's and every one available had caps so I just stayed away.
It's why you just get a business line, usually just slightly more expensive, and you get 99.9% SLA uptime and unlimited cap.
You shouldn't need a business line to get reliable, fast, unlimited internet.
O %100 agreed. Just suggesting a way around the bullshit cap they impose.
And a static IP, and the ability to do whatever you want with the fiber
Yep a static IP is great for hosting dedicated servers
Great internet is also a deciding factor for us while looking for our next rural midwest home! I use the FCC Broadband Map and availability searches on local ISP websites to confirm available speeds and no data caps. We passed on some great homes because of slow/no internet or data caps.
Our current rural midwest home has 940x35 w/o data caps from a cable-based (DOCSIS 3.1) ISP for $34.99/month. I'm sure they will increase the price after 12 months. When the time comes, I'll call them again to complain and get a decent price again.
Good choice. I live in the rural midwest and the only thing that'll reach (even though we're in the flatlands) is a WISP we pay $170 a month for 12/6. No data caps, but it's slow as shit. At least it's not satellite so we can still play games online fairly reliably but damn.
lol uncapped 500mbps fiber (actual fiber directly to your house) connection is 10-12$/month in Ukraine
Where I am, there was only one provider of internet for a long time, and I was paying for a plan that's more or less what you have right now. Then another company came in and laid fiber, and both companies slashed prices and now I get over double my download speed, no data cap, and something crazy like 50x the old upload speed all for like 20 dollars less a month! Before I switched to the fiber company, the first company even increased my download speeds without increasing the price! Anyone who says competition doesn't change things is crazy.
I live in the UK and currently have copper cable at about 60mbps for £60 per month. I thought what I had was bad because I have a friend who gets 1gbps for £30 a few miles away.
I'm in the US and get 1Gbps for about £30, because my city forced ISPs to sell portions of their networks to third party competitions to break up monopolies.
Crazy that they make you pay in pounds in the US though.
Where the hell in the UK are you? I'm in the North and pay £26 for 60mbps but get more like 70 due to how close I am to the street cabinet though I haven't even got copper cable here, just crappy aluminium that is so old I think Alexander Graham Bell himself fitted them.
I'm in the north-west but I'm limited to BT because nobody else has cables down yet. A different company claims to be fitting FttP round here in a few months though.
Similar issue here, full fibre roll out is estimated to be complete in 2025.
I'm just outside Newcastle on the coast and could get Virgin but my neighbours have had a nightmare with it.
They only rolled out their fibre about three months ago so there might be issues with that
I'm in leeds and pay £30 a month for 1gig with virgin. You sould move house. Get better broadband.
Where on earth are you and who with to be fleeced that much?
In the north-west. BT currently have a local monopoly so they can charge what they want
So it’s my impression that (and my knowledge might be out of date here) but almost anywhere that BT is then there should be at least 1 other company that operates on their lines (or rather Openreaches line, after they were split out of BT for competition purposes) so you should be able to get someone else with luck.
Try using Sam knows website and they tell lots about your line and what you can get.
If you're rural, check out B4RN.
Lol Germany here checking in 500/50 for 29.99
In Brazil I pay 20 USD for 500mb. There are plans in my area that sells 1gb for 30 USD. Thay can't put data caps due to legislation, only on mobile data (which I pay 6usd for 20gb cap, 5g)
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I believe some have data caps even for landline internet, they get around legislation saying you get slower Internet after you reach the cap but yeah, I pay like 25 USD for 600 mps down and 300 mps up
They cannot be enforced here on wired connections since 2016 even if you signed a contract, thankfully.
Says they will decide on it, has there been a permanent decision? Not trying to start an argument just wondering how this works
They might bring it up back someday (it was "filed"), and a company could try bringing it before a judge claiming it is unfair to them.
But, as things stand, challenging it would be a very unpopular maneuver for anyone involved, there is no political or economical lobby for it, so there is no reason to be afraid of it being changed short term.
I see, thx for the info. I hope it's not something that can be changed be presidential decree like when bolsonaro ended the 2x 32kg bag allowance we had for absolutely no reason
Well, the internet companies have successfully bribed politicians to avoid competition. This is just the normal result of everyday corruption.
I had uncapped 500/50Mbps for €10 but now I moved to a village and I'm stuck with 100/10Mbps for €20 :(
About to move to a new house, pretty much had to harass Verizon for a week to add the address to their database so I could move our service.
$70/mo for 1Gig up/down with no cap. The alternative was Xfinity.
I was not going to Xfinity.
I have Comcast now and it's okay in my area (no data cap scam in my area), but probably only because Verizon is available across the street. I had Verizon before I moved and it was faster but they completely forgot that they needed to implement IPv6.
Xfinity also lied and told me there wouldn’t be a cancellation fee since I wasn’t under contract (so I thought) and I was moving to an area that they didn’t serve.
Turns out when I had called in a year prior with a question they “renewed” the contract without my approval and there WAS a cancellation fee. But never told me. Never sent me a bill.
Didn’t know anything until I got a collections letter for $400. Called them up and they had the notes on my account from the three different reps I spoke to over the phone to confirm there was no fee. Because there were so many conflicting reports online I wanted to be sure. They did not give a fuck and pretty much admitted their reps lied.
So fuck Xfinity.
OP, check out the websites about grants ISPs are getting to put fiber in rural areas and see if your area is on the list somewhere (I would try and link you to some, but I'm on mobile and for some reason I have a hell of a time finding those sites while on mobile). You can see below what I've had to deal with for about 20 years, until my area finally got covered by one of those grants a few months ago. I am super rural - like, I am literally surrounded by nationally protected forest and nothing else; it'snot a place I thought would ever be included in those grant locations. It was, though, and I now have Gigabyte internet with no cap, with VOIP, for $74.98 a month. If I'm not using WiFi, I get an actual gig of download speed. If I'm on wifi, it's usually between 600-900MB.
Up until recently, we paid Centurylink about $150 a month for two lines into the house. Each line maxed out at 0.75MB download speed and 0.23 MB upload speed. We needed two lines to even be able to function. Almost 20 years of this, with no other options besides Hughesnet. We tried them for a little while; their equipment cost a fortune, it was about$150 a month, the speed was nearly as bad and they had a 200MB A MONTH CAP. We had to turn off images for websites in order to not go over the cap. Previous to 2004, I lived in a very rural part of NY. We had high speed internet for $69 a month, no cap. I can't remember the speed, but I remember that it took 3 minutes to download a full sized movie. 20 YEARS AGO the internet was better, and cheaper!
Shit dude, I pay €20 for synchronous 1Gb/s.
Yea while we were in alaska we were capped. we were in fairbanks as well, which isn't that rural. I lived in the high desert of california. drive 20 min from hesperia to phelan and you could probably get meth easier than consistent internet.
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Mediacom is the worst, data caps and low speeds for high prices, straight highway robbery. I'm lucky to have a local ISP with no data caps and a mostly reasonable price, cheaper than Mediacom at least. And soon to be fiber when they make it over to my neighborhood. They're currently in the process of running fiber to every neighborhood in my city.
Our local fiber (1000/1000) is truly unlimited and just had a price decrease from $120 to $100. Never had an ISP do that before!
Oh boy, you're still lucky with your data cap 🙂
Mine's ~90 Mbps down, ~35 Mbps up, 10 GB open access + 8 GB site-specific of your choice, you reload it weekly for $2.
There's also a 1 GB "Metaverse Go" bandwidth as well, I have no idea which sites are included in that because when I download updates for my Fedora laptop and download apps from Flathub, it uses that bandwidth.
$70? In Australia I pay $85 for 75/20 unlimited.
Paying less than 10$ a month for mobile data with unlimited 4g (5g unlimited in this plan for the testing phase). Living in a third world country. Wifi connection is unlimited at 100mbps speed at almost the same amount.
"Allowance" what the fuck? Aren't they infantilising their customers?
just out of interest .. somebody here on satellite? I am interested to know the prices for sat services out there?
1000/300 unlimited FTTH for ~20$ in hungary, however this company (digi) was killed by the government, and bought under price by a company (4ig) which is very close to the goverment, and the stateparty, and they did 2 subscription price ups, so 2 years ago it was about 10$... We have "bent capitalism" here which resembles to communism...
Maybe you should organise a community run ISP instead?
They're quite common where I live, although I don't use one myself. I still only pay 400sek for unlimited 500/500.
This is almost started price in Canada
Is it? I get 1.5Gbps for $80/mo no caps and I checked my tiny hometown and they have similar prices. This is in Ontario around Ottawa
In my rural town where the cottage is, XPloreNet finally brought fiber. I used to pay $140 for SpaceX (and because of the trees, I got at most 100 mbs of throughput). Now, with XPloreNet, I get consistent 100 mbs and my bill has been reduced to $75 per month. We pay too much for our Internet.
The sad thing is you only need one company to enter the market with aggressive prices so the others are forced to react (and admit they were abusing their clients).
That’s what happened in France with Free, and now everyone can have 15 to 30€ good internet. Caps are something never heard of. Later they did the same thing with mobile networks and now most of Europe have cheap unlimited no roaming etc. Zero company went bankrupt, they just had to learn how to reduce their margins.
As a result I have a 10Gb/10Gb fiber with tv for 40$
In the same exact boat as you. We have Mediacom or one DSL. They gave me a really good deal for the first year on my 1gig, but after that it's going to be about $140 a month. To make matters worse too, the wiring in my apartment building is REALLY old, so the service cuts out randomly sometimes (All tenants in the building are on splitters sharing one cable with the apartment across the hall.) And of course the landlord said that Mediacom was trying to trick me into spending more money and he would absolutely not run new cable. Internet in rural areas of the US is a total shit show. My connection is somewhat stable now, but I can't wait for something else to come to my area.
And yes I looked into Starlink, my building has a strict NO PUTTING UP ANTENNA policy.
And yes I looked into Mobile Carrier Routers and the fastest I can get is 50mb download with a data cap.
I feel your problem on a spiritual level.
You mentioned the US, so please look up the FCC rules regarding limiting tenants from putting up antennas and dishes. It might be illegal for them to restrict that.
My parents in rural Washington pay $70/month for 10Mbps down. I'm not sure the ISP bothers with a cap.
I have CenturyLink 940/940 here in Seattle with no cap for $65. The alternative is Wave which has a cap and you have to deal with introductory price bullshit.
Denmark: 1gbps up/down with static IPv4 and IPv6 address for 105dkk ($15).
I can reliably get the offered speeds and the connection is unlimited. Pretty happy with that.
Where we lived in Florida we has Spectrum and they didn’t even offer Ethernet. Apartment only had WiFi with router access…
Yeah, this doesn't sound right. I've never seen a modem without an ethernet port. I've had everything from Verizon dsl in Tampa years ago to various cable providers including twc and now spectrum and as I said, every modem had an ethernet port. You can also add your own router even if it ends up adding an extra nat layer.
We didn’t even have a modem, just a locked down AP with no control. All controlled through the apartment complex.
It sounds like an apartment building restriction, not a Spectrum restriction. The building wasn't run for ethernet so they just put in wifi with a single modem for the building and called it a day.
Was in Kissimmee. We were forced into the apartment complex internet plan and it only included WiFi. No Ethernet ports in the apartment just a WiFi unit where you had to approve MAC addresses for access.
Super frustrating. Ended up buying a router, that would bridge the WiFi and offer Ethernet to my Pi and desktop.
Central Florida has AT&T fiber now. I pay $108 a month for 2.5gbit up and down. 1gbit is $80 IIRC.
Northeast US here. Fairly healthy competition in my area, the fiber at my home is about $50/mo
Dont worry, the market will simply regulate itself.
Hot damn, where can I sign up?!?! I get the same except for a 1.2 TB data cap and pay $130/mo. Xfinity in the Denver metro area. Finally getting fiber this winter, symmetrical gigabit for $90.
I get unlimited 10Gbps symmetric fiber for $40/month. One of the only affordable things in the San Francisco Bay Area, lol
what the actual fuck, thats so cheap
Probably lives near datacenter
2Gbps symmetric fiber, $70/month, flyover state. Could go up to 5Gbps for another like $20. No data caps. I may never move again.
I get half that speed from a plan that costs more, though at least I don't have data caps and it's better than other plans I've seen
H O W Can I buy your home please? It would probably be cheaper to do that then keep paying for internet
Nice houses are over $1.8 million here. Expensive area, but at least the internet is a good deal.
You must have Sonic.net like I do. I was so glad the home I bought was in their coverage area. Fuck Comcast.
Yes!! They're the best. I switched to Sonic as soon as they rolled out in my area. Availability (or future availability) of Sonic was one of the things I looked for when buying a house.
Off topic: I see that there is "9 more replies" and I am unable to expand the thread... could someone please offer guidance?
I see them!
Here's a screenshot:
It works now? I am going to read the lemmy.org guide and hopefully mend this. Thank you for replying, your instance has a comfortable ui.
My screenshot is from the "Boost" mobile app on Android :) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rubenmayayo.lemmy
https://upvote.au/comment/949970 - I was referring to your instance. It is yours right? It does feel counterintuitive to use a closed source client to access an open-source network. If I may ask, how did you make the decision to use boost for lemmy?
The FCC is still to my knowledge taking public comments about data caps:
https://consumercomplaints.fcc.gov/hc/en-us/requests
May be worth people here commenting about how they are ridiculous
Damn. Our symmetrical 500 mbps plan, with no caps, is USD 14 per month
I'm lucky - I'm in a Midwest town as well (between 1500 to 3000 people) in the US. A couple of years ago, fiber got installed. I'm getting about 900Mbps down and 99 up, no data cap, for $84/month. Before that I also had Mediacom, and the data cap was infuriating. So glad I could switch!
I pay about $80/mo and have a 1200 GB cap.
It used to be $50 a month with no cap. But "that plan is no longer available" in my area.
If it makes you feel better, I has a similar cap when I lived in Silicon Valley
2000/2000 Mbit fiber without a cap for $95/mo. in Maine, US.
This does feel a bit surreal though as prior to this my options were 3/.5 Mbit DSL for $75/mo. (bonding wasn't an option, no plans by ISP to upgrade), then 25/10 Mbit fixed wireless for $95 /mo. from a local provider (which worked when it felt like it and then was undergoing "maintenance" for weeks at a time making it unusable), then paying Spectrum a $5500+ ransom to run Cable down my driveway and then ultimately pay $115/mo. for 300/20 Mbit. Spectrum didn't have a cap due to the Charter -> TWC acquisition consent decree but I'm sure it was coming after that expired.
When fiber came to town everything else suddenly got cheaper but screw them, they kept raising the rates and fees when there wasn't any meaningful competition. Fidium didn't even charge me an install fee and I'm not under a contract. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
About 63€/68$ for 100/10mbps speed and a 150GB data cap. Including a cable tv subscription.
That's in Europe.
Yikes. I pay $80 a month for 1Gbps up and down with no data cap. It's amazing what happens when one company doesn't have a monopoly in an area. Prices go down and quality of service goes up.
*edit: replied to wrong comment
You have a datacap? Damn
I live in the southwest. They're garbage. It's them or CenturyLink on, wait for it, COPPER WIRE!
I'm paying 12$ a month for 300 mbps symmetric in India... Though not fair to directly convert into dollars
Edit: no caps on bandwidth
India - $8/mo, symmetrical 150Mbps, unlimited.
Sweden: 50 Usd 1gb up/down fiber directly pulled to a media converter located in my house. Not like I had, living in UK, fiber to a telecom box on the street and then Lan cable to my property...
What country are you in the midwest of? That really sucks, I emphasise :-(
I know they have a lot of data aps like that in developing nations still, like those in Africa, but generally in the western world we moved past those around 15 years ago at least, thank the gods. I've not even had a date limit on my phone since 2014, so handy for tethering the laptop when I'm on the move!
I'm in the UK, for reference :-)
Remember the net neutrality regulations that douchebag scrapped then opted to make a shitty YouTube video about? I do.
No fiber available to my house, so I'm stuck with paying ~$85 for 50/2. Or switching ISPs and briefly getting a chair rate for faster speeds, but adding in a data cap and less reliability.
Same boat here, I have what seems to be a legacy plan now for a 1G/50M with 6 or maybe 8 TB (it changed during the plauge years and I don't recall if they dropped it back down) for about $150/month. The only other options around are wireless or a 80/10 dsl through century link that interestingly enough has no cap. Supposedly century link is working on fiber sometime that will give a dymetric uncapped option for about $70 though.
Meanwhile, in the town of Moticello less than 50 miles away they have two high end fiber nets because the city decided to build their own and the local ISP decided it better do so to in order to not be extinct, after of course trying to sue the city saying they can't do that.
Holy crap everything you were saying was hitting word chords in me, so relatable, then you said Monticello. I just moved to Earl Park, was going to have to decide between Century Link and satellite, then Mainstream came through like a week before I closed on the house and installed cheap fast fiber.
If I where to move that would certainly be a factor in the future. I've been here since 2006 when the fastest offering was a lot less than it is now. Mostly I'd just like to get the speeds more balanced, I don't really need 1G down but with all the self hosting I've taken to in the last few years it would be nice to boost the upload and their next tier down at 500/50 cuts the cap in at least half because '"f'ck you, we can".
The CenturyLink fiber plan is pretty nice, me and my brother in law are on it and it runs as advertised and I've had maybe 2 outages in the 3 years I've had it, unlike my previous provider where it would be like 1 per quarter
Where I live in Australia, 1 hour out of Sydney, I would pay that for 1/3 the data at 1/3 the speed. Went with starlink instead.
I have almost the same experience. I live in a small town in the Midwest, and the only ISP that goes to my house is Comcast/Xfinity. There's a 1.2TB cap no matter what level you pay for, though they give you the option of paying an extra $30/month for unlimited. I'm really growing to appreciate our local ISP, which provides symmetrical FTTH, unlimited data, a static (or at least rarely changing) IP, and generally non-predatory business practices, all for a lower price than Xfinity. Unfortunately, my house is on the fringe of the town, so they don't reach all the way here and I'm stuck with Xfinity.
Comcast unlimited data is an extra 50 for my area.
Evil bastards. I make sure to get my money's worth though
I was shocked when my friend from India told me that for 400 Mbps up and down, he pays only $14/month. Limit: 3.3 TB per month.
I had been on Mediacom since I moved back to my hometown in 2003. In the beginning it was a nice service other than terrible phone support. Occasionally you'd need to call if the modem took a shit, wiring issues, billing issues, or provision new hardware. I don't know when, let's say 2013, they introduced data caps, tiered plans, and overage fees. Let me just say, fuck you Mediacom, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you! Every year in December and January we'd go over because the kids would get new games for Christmas. They slowed us down, limited usage, and charged us more. Mediacom fucking sucks!
Thankfully, we were lucky to get fiber wired up around town last summer. Many small towns are now running fiber in this area and I couldn't be happier. Service has been exceptional, I pay less than Mediacom ($85/mo), and no bullshit charges. Fast internet that just works. Check out Conxxus and see if they are near where you're living. Good luck!
Have you looked at Starlink or T-Mobile 5g home internet?
Do you get a public IP with Starlink?
I know i'm privileged paying 70 PLN (~17 USD) for symmetrical gigabit link, but holy shit man, that picture hurts.
I live in México and pay 1119 MXN (≈ 65 USD) per month for 600/100. It also includes TV channels and a phone line. I'm satisfied with my ISP. They've never had an outage and stuff just works!
Build your own ISP :)
I pay $60 for 600d 10u And I'm in a "major" east coast city. I have access to ONE broadband provider. The only difference is I currently don't have a hard cap, although it I started using more than 1-2TB a month they'd drop me or find a way to force me into a higher tier.
Italy - 35€/mo, 1Gbps down, 300Mbps up, unlimited. Goes down at least once a month though, openfiber sucks
Not that you will read 300+comments, but cancel and go with starlink. They probably call you back and offer you an uncapped plan :D
100Mbps uncapped for £26 a month. Pretty happy with that.
Thats rough, i live in what the rural small town folks that live around us call a “that liberal shit hole” while they are here shopping and working. I have unlimited municipal Fiber internet that just got upgraded for free!
Bud, I pay $60/mo for 30 down, 1.5 up 🙃
I have 1gbps symmetrical for €17.95 in the Netherlands.
I've lived In rural areas in the U.S. all my life. Internet is always atrocious because the only ones that provide services out those ways know that they have no competition.
Luckily, I've had a great company come in and now have fantastic internet after they set up the infrastructure, but I still think about those days I had to use Windstream.
I pay 150 a month for 20/10mbps (actual is more like 10/5) with a 1.5tb cap. I would stab a baby to get yours.
Meanwhile I'm paying $150 for less than that.
Same here, no data cap but upload speeds of 10Mbps is absolutely brutal.
lmfao its 40usd for 50/20 in australia
Here in Sri Lanka I'm paying ~20 USD for FTTH 100 Mbps. Monthly bandwidth is limited to 155 GB lol.
Holy fucking shit dude... Sorry for you but in a weird way I'm a bit relieved to see this being the case in the US as well. The village I grew up in (Germany) still has a price of ~50€ for speeds of 50-100MBit/s However, there is at least no data cap in that case. My 1000 Mbit/s contract was capped to 1TB/month as well until four years ago (40€/month). I really hope this improves for all of us soon!
Let’s be real here, for a gas station Casey’s has damn good pizza.
In the Netherlands we complain a lot about gas prizes, costs of groceries. et cetera.
But regarding internet we have come a long way. Fiber is available to approximately 50% of the households currently (and they are expanding fast)
Mobile data is really seen as a commodity. 5G with unlimited data is €25/€30 a month (depending on the carrier). Although 5G in the Netherlands is not yet up to speed (3,5GHz will become available soon), the realistic speeds achieved are more then decent. (Benefit of having a crowded, flat country)
Sorry, moest ik even fixen :)
On topic, I'm in NZ and we tend to be behind in things, but Internet here is awesome. NZ$95 for unlimited 900/500mbps. They are starting to roll out 2.5 gbps.
Funny, because it's true
Lobbying captured local states' law (by ISP's) and so some places can petition to have their own internet at cities and have, but these laws sometimes prevent that. But we should still try to petition to get a city based internet. It's worth it.
I'm with the only uncapped service in my area, it's $90/mo for 10mb/s and it's unreliable as all fuck.
I don't think we've had data limits for wired internet since moving on from dial-up/ISDN. But I'm still waiting for unmetered mobile data. Here all the supposedly competing providers are advertising 100 GB as unlimited. I'd rather pay for a reasonable specific speed with no metering, than have a connection that is so fast it can use up its monthly quota in an hour.
I pay more for 200/20, but no limits. That sucks!
Germany calling. Shot internet here. On my village (close to Ulm) telecom will give you a maximum 16mb dsl which in reality is around 8 down for 40€ a month.
Installed Starlink and get 150 to 250 down and 30 up for 65 a month.
I have to have Cox Business just so I don't have to pay $50 /mo extra for unlimited Internet. It's a scam.
Yeah Comcast has been doing it for a while.
Consider yourself lucky, I pay around 100 euros for a 100Mb wich does not even reach 40 in download at times. (Italy)
EU - 30 USD 400/200 MBbs fiber no data cap here :)
For the past 15 years I've had a data cap on home internet, but never had a data cap prior to that.
That's led me to believe the exact opposite of your observation; unlimited data is a thing of the past and data caps are a thing of the present and future.
pay $180/month for 1gbit down/100mbit up and it is unlimited... It would be $130 for 1.75TB, but I wanted unlimited and that is an extra $50/month
Sorry for bumping this, but why do you have such a big difference in upload and download speeds? Here in Norway the difference is 1-2 mbps. Why 900mbps?
So unless you live in an area with fiber, asymmetrical speeds are pretty typical… I’m not sure if it is because it’s all coax so there are infrastructure limitations? But it’s actually gotten faster because 6 months ago my upload was only 30 mbit/s.
Once fiber is in my area I’ll switch to that, but symmetrical will add more cost…but of course it will lol
I am very thankful that I do not live in the United States. Even in Canada where telecommunications services are notoriously expensive, data caps on cellphone plans are rapidly becoming a thing of the past. Carriers like Freedom Mobile will simply throttle your speed instead of charging you a boatload of money once you pass your monthly data "limit".
Man, the US is weird sometimes. I don't think I've ever had a data cap on my home internet.
I'll jump on the specs bandwagon. I really can't complain much about Spectrum or AT&T. I currently have symmetrical gigabit with no cap for $80 a month. I just signed up for "straight forward pricing" which is supposed to lock in my rate for as long as I have it.
I'm outside of Charlotte, NC.
How many ISP choices do you have?
I’m outside of Milwaukee. Was paying Spectrum $75 for 300/20 (I think), no cap. Only other option is DSL. They finally buried fiber in the back yard earlier this summer, but haven’t turned it on yet. Got a great deal for T-mobile home internet, $25 for about 300/75, no cap.
Just checked on the FCC Broadband Map, and I saw options for AT&T (symmetrical gigabit), Spectrum (1000, 35 wtf), HughesNet (25,3), Starlink (50,10), Verizon (300,10) and I think T-Mobile even though they weren't listed.
From an Aussie where our Internet is somewhat considered a "public utility" (NBNCo), it's not the best. I'm paying $130/mo (Aussie bucks) for 250/100 fibre.
Our NTDs are capable of gigabit symmetrical, but thanks to our Lord and Saviour, Rupert Murdoch, it was essentially limited speed wise and the network was built with ridiculous complexity, such as the CVC constraints (Connectivity Virtual Circuit), which means ISPs have to buy additional bandwidth and hope and pray that every user doesn't max out their connections at the same time.
For example, the POI (Point of Interconnect) I'm connected to has a total of 1.5Gbps with the ISP I'm with. Based on their stats which they make public to customers, I'm guesstimating that there's approximately ~50 other households in my POI area connected with this ISP. We all have to share that bandwidth otherwise it slows to a crawl.
ETA: I'm purely talking about the FTTP network here, not the other part of the mess that is NBNCo and FTTN/C/B, Fixed Wireless, Satellite & HFC... the NBN is a complete mess.
Thanks god I have unlimited 150/50 4g internet at home for around 42€ per month. This month we downloaded around 5.5 TB of data. Also small town, countryside, no stop lights, no businesses other than bars and shops. There is only one stop light in whole region. And whole region is getting fiber optic. We had DSL, but speeds were terrible.
Look into fixed wireless or 4G/5G home internet. Fixed wireless is sometimes exactly what you need in spots like that. It is not 4G or 5G, sometimes it is just long range WiFi or other lax spectrum.
20€ a month for 200/20 on cable with unlimited data. Im expecting 500/200 after I move to fiber this month and hope <30€. Damn some of you pay a lot 😮
300Mbps symmetric, no cap, for $55.32 (Northern California).
I pay 40€ /month for 20 Down & 10 Mbit/s but unlimited Traffic...
I have mediacom as well, but in a larger city of the midwest. They have datacaps here too, and i was paying about $100 for exactly this same plan up until a couple years ago. They started upgrading our speeds/caps because a new fiber company (metronet) is building in the area. Now i'm on 1 gbps down and a 4 TB cap. I still plan to switch to metronet when they finally light up my area, as its cheaper for the same speeds (plus no data caps)
I’m paying $115/mo for 1G down 30M up, no data cap.
I WAS paying $150 for the same until I called and bitched that new subscribers were getting the same for $89. So, still getting fucked, but at least they’re using lube now.
There’s fiber literally on the next street over from me. Come the fuck on guys - fiber in my neighborhood. Let’s fucking gooooooooooo already. You’ve been teasing me for years. Quit pulling my hair and fuck me already damn.
Friend of mine lives in bumfuck nowhere here in the US (like, no access to running water if it goes without raining for a few weeks - that kind of rural) and has gigabit up/down for $60 somehow. Meanwhile, there's 2 or 3 ISPs in my area who will gladly take $60 for half that speed and dog shit upload. I pay for both a resi and biz line and the latter is the same speed for $15 more. Criminal.
Aussie chiming in 50/20mbps for $90/m. I wanted 50mbps upload but it would have bumped the cost to $130/m.
I'd be so screwed on that plan. According to my router, I've downloaded 5311 GB in the last 30 days, and uploaded 399 GB. Sure doesn't feel like it in hindsight, but some family members are on YouTube all day every day, others constantly downloading new games on Steam, and my Plex media Server and *arr apps just chews through data.
This makes me seethe and rage and turns my piss to vinegar.
I pay about $ 25 for unlimited 300 MBit/s, I also get 50 GB of data in all of the EU, 100 MB world wide roaming and 100 minutes world wide calling.
Oh, and it’s on my phone.
Wow, that's pretty terrible. I can't remember the last time I've seen data caps on home Internet (edit: there were some a while ago, but those were basically cellular-at-home for places that are hard to reach with copper or optic fibre); must've been early 2000s. Right now I get 600 Mbps d/400 Mbps u at home and 10 Mbps d/u cellular (no data cap) for a total of under 30 EUR/mo.
That's rough... No idea how I'd cope with that. I don't think I've ever had a datacap on any residential connection here in the Netherlands. Currently got 1gbps fiber up and down for 50 euros I think.
TV however is still a huge scam. I just want to watch football but have to have a billion other channels too I think. (Ima see if I can change this now lol)
Check how much business internet would cost, there's usually no data caps.
in town finally got 250 up/down fibre for $55/month, no caps. waited years. read T-mobile and starlink have some tie-up: https://www.t-mobile.com/news/un-carrier/t-mobile-takes-coverage-above-and-beyond-with-spacex
jesus. in germany i currently have 1gbit docsis for 40€, and a local company will install FTTH in my flat til end of this year
Datacaps? On Home PC? I don't even datacaps on my phone and I leave in bumfuck nowhere North Carolina
I live in a large city and as of last year I have two choices for high speed home internet. I was paying $70/month for 300/20 with cable, now I have fiber and pay $70/month for 300/300. At least the first year was cheaper as a new customer and the faster upload speed is helpful for work from home.
I forget how lucky I am to live in a large city sometimes. 2Gb down, 1gbps up, $50 all in.
I think the issue is that these service providers are more than capable of providing "unlimited" data, but choose not to because they can make a lot more when people inevitably go over their limit. The salt on the wound is the fact that ISPs usually have no competition. They usually have a monopoly on the area in which they operate.
Where I live, we have unlimited data that only gets throttled if you use a truly absurd amount (like if you're constantly pirating large amounts of 4k movies or something). No caps or unexpected fees. Overall, I always felt like I had it pretty good, and I still think that...mostly.
The funny part is that my ISP had competition move to town recently. I kid you not, the week before the competition officially started up their service, my ISP sent a letter saying they were doubling my Internet speed for no extra charge.
They were trying to show how awesome they were but really it was the biggest slap in the fucking face. You're telling me you were overcharging me that much for years?
Another issue is that advertising, which you never asked for, makes up part of your monthly data usage, as do routine and unavoidable downloads like security updates, video game patches, etc.
There isn't much difference at all. Neither should have a cap.
Data moving across a network doesn't have any per-unit cost to the people operating the network. Whether you use 5TB or 5GB doesn't impact the bottom line of the ISPs at all.
The only justification for a data cap would be if they've overprovisioned their network and sold too many people plans that are too fast for their network to support, so they need to disincentivise people from actually using it. Even then that's pretty shaky justification.
U should come to australia. Our internet is worse than most 3rd world countries. And u need a business plan to get symmetric upload thats so slow i doubt u could hit a 1tb cap if u tried.
you're in the sticks when your quicky-mart 7/11 option is Casey’s lol. Missouri?
If it's any slight consolation, I pay ridiculous prices for comcast 100mb in Seattle, and my only other option is shitty adsl that's even worse garbage.
Im considering 5g home Internet because it's cheaper than cable, 50 vs 80
I pay $50 / mo for 100 down, 5 up 1.25tb cap. I feel ya. It's another $50 just for no cap.
Yikes! I pay a couple bucks more for uncapped gigabit. I'm fortunate in that there's two competing providers in my area that aren't in cahoots (that I can tell.) I much prefer the more expensive one and was able to get them to match the other's price.
My wife has been dropping hints she wants to move to another state though and I'm low key dreading dealing with a new ISP/losing my current plan.
As many others have already given their specs, I'll add mine: 1/1G fibre 55€/month, no data cap in rural Finland. And I can get the advertised speeds whenever (plus a bit more due to how they do the limit, but that's heavily load dependent). 10G plan is available too, but I don't have hardware or real need for that, so I don't know about pricing, but I'd quess less than a 100€/m. Only dynamic IPv4, I've been waiting for them to upgrade to IPv6 so I could have some real world experience with it.
I'm in a very small town, we only have a bar. $100/mo for 500mb/s up and down, at least I actually get that though. Rarely is it less, but they also hooked us all up with fiber when they ran the fiber thru the center of the city. Price is also largely because they are literally the only internet provider unless you go with satellite -- which I was considering but with the weather here...probably not ideal.
£30 - 70 down 20 up. No caps UK here.
Who are you with? I get 150 symmetrical for £25 with Swish.
Perhaps unpopular opinion but I don’t know why people are saying they want ISPs to be treated like a utility. Most utilities charge based on how much you use… I don’t have a data cap at the moment but I’d much rather have a cap than a charge per GB used…
For most utilities (water, electricity), there's a relatively linear relationship between the tangible value provided (energy used, water dispensed) and the cost to provide it (coal burned, water sourced/treated). Even for wind- or hydro-powered electricity, the amount that everybody uses has a proportional amount of wear on the system and consequent required maintenance.
But not so much for ISPs. Instead, you're basically paying for a "fictional" amount (speed) of a non-tangible product. Granted, there is a linear relationship to the amount of electricity the ISP uses to provide each bit, but it's negligible.
Instead, what you're paying for with internet is essentially to recoup the fixed costs of the provider's equipment. They do need to upgrade every so often to accommodate more capacity and faster speeds, but this is proportional to speeds provided and not data volume used.
Wrong, but better than what we get in the UK
I pay 95 for 400/12 and 1.2 TB. Count your blessings.
Yikes. Only 20mbps upload (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻
That's not what that's about. It's about DATA CAPS. OP needs to pay for 1,5TB. It's not about speed
But this post isn't about speed caps. Speed caps are fine, but data caps aren't.
Data caps are everywhere, I'm not sure why you'd think they're a thing of the past. I believe the scenario is more like "you're lucky if your plan doesn't have caps" instead.
1.5T/month is uncomfortable though. One of my VPN services has a 1T/month softcap (speed drastically reduces after that) and it's usually fine for my household, but one person going crazy on YouTube rabbit holes or us binging something on Netflix, pushes that limit fast.
Terrible scenario, but unfortunately I think there's too much money involved for the right thing to be done and this kind of service getting the treatment it should have.
TF you smoking? I pay 25€/ mo. For gigabit connection with no data caps. The US is getting hosed because it’s a corporatocracy and the ISPs have acted like robber barons for the past three decades. Don’t normalize this blatantly anti consumer bullshit.
To add to this, my country has been rolling out 10Gbps U/D FTTH for 35€/Month for a while, and even rural areas usually have at least 500Mbps U/D, all of it uncapped.
Gotta say, more than a decade ago ISP's tried to implement data caps on home internet, and it failed spectacularly.
I weep for our American brethren, may they find a way out of the hole they're in...
I'm not normalizing anything and I didn't say there is nowhere you can get unlimited plans. I said it's not a thing of the past.
I too have uncapped broadband, but I know it's not something I should fall into the trap of taking for granted.
£65 a month for gigabit for me. But no data caps. Not even noticed soft caps after multi terabytes download in a monthly period
No Datacaps for landline in Europe yeah.. In many EU countries you can also buy a mobile flat without caps for like 40€.
The US just doesn't have a good consumer lobby.
The problem with the US is even if we had a consumer lobby, which I don’t think we do, we would be overrun by the big corporate lobbies in a matter of seconds.
The only people that get listened to by our government are those who have the big money to control members of congress. We are supposed to have a government for the people by the people but instead we have a government for the rich by the rich.
Those of us that don’t have billions of dollars don’t have a voice, even though they claim to listen, they don’t unless you can line their pockets with a few $100,000 thousand dollars a month.
Our government official don’t care about us, they care about money and how to get more of it.
Sorry if this is nitpicking but as far as I know, there is no such thing as unlimited mobile data plans.
In most contracts they will say that you have to use reasonably the data plan and you cannot for example constantly max out your connection. Like 24/7 constant max bandwidth used.
In most case it doesn't really matter but I really don't like the fact that ISPs get to say it's unlimited when it definitely isn't.
It's unlimited*
I don't know where you live, but here in Austria you can get truly unlimited ones. People also use them instead of landline connections without any issues.
And depending where you live that might or might not work out well for you. If too many people in your neighbourhood use too much mobile data at the same time as you, speeds will decrease and unlimited data plans in particular will be throttled.
Never got into it that deep myself, I just know other people who never had issues. Prime-time streaming in full hd etc.
But I'm also pretty sure you can sue them, if they can't keep up the advertised speeds over longer time. Obv only when the infrastructure is actually available.
You can sue anyone for anything, but no one is advertising any guaranteed speeds for mobile broadband, so your chances will be fairly limited. Best you can do is withdrawing from your contract.
For unlimited data contracts you can usually pay different amounts for different speeds. They actively advertise with those maximum speeds and if you can never reach them, even tho they are available at your location, you can report them to a federal agency and take legally warranty claims.
Not true everywhere.
Here in Australia, while speeda are not amazing (gigabit is kind of the max for now) we have no contracts, no data caps, hundreds of ISPs and some even allow people to pay per day.
I can change ISP tomorrow and the switch over will take 10 minutes, because the physical network is common to all of them.
It's sort of sad to see how americans have only the freedom to get their kids shot and ass fucked by corporations.
Mate “speeds are not amazing” is a massive understatement. I pay $80 a month for 46Mbps down, 12Mbps up. Unlimited data thankfully, although realistically the most I’m going to be able to download is 5TB a month unless I leave devices on all day and night (and given our electricity prices that’s a whole different kettle of fish).
I am on FTTP and pay 99 for 500/50 and never seen a slowdown. It will take a while to get everyone off the old copper network, I know :(
Data caps are not everywhere. Especially on landlines.
Everywhere on mobile sure but fiber then it's not a thing in the Nordics. Unsure about the rest of the EU but I'd be surprised if it was common.
Speeds can be iffy though. It's very much up to the landlord in the cities what fiber to install and when so there are large discrepancies. Some are still stuck on sub 100 MB/s though it's getting very rare. I'm rural as fuck and will get 1 GB/s in two weeks, have 300 MB/s currently.
For reference in not aware of any ISP providing data caps in the UK, except for mobile plans.
Why not starlink? At that point I think it would be a nice investment.