The Affordable Hyundai Ioniq 2 Is Coming In September
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Unlikely to ship to North America.
Sometimes I'm on Lemmy and scroll until I see any positive comment, on any thread. It's hard. It's draining to be here sometimes.
Thanks for sharing. I'm still happily driving my second hand Kona '19, but glad to see prices dropping.
I wonder how it will compare to the kona ev
Affordable for whom?
TBF it says more affordable. But yes, they are still expensive, specially compared to Chinese cars, but that's another story.
Are Hyundai still the most easily stealable cars on the road?
It's an ev so immune to the old theft style. Any Hyundai or Kia with push button start would be immune as well.
I think also just an immobilizer stops it? I can't remember the specific thing they didn't do, but in the US they cheaped out on a security part so that's why they were easily stolen with literally a usb
"the old theft style" had nothing to do with the powertrain.
Was it not the ignition barrel? Which wouldn't be a thing on an EV due to not needing ignition?
Most modern cars don't have those, regardless of powertrain.
Yeah and those ones are immune to the theft style of removing the ignition barrel and using a USB to start it. Anything push button is immune.
Yes, once again, regardless of powertrain.
You do understand that the statement of 'EVs are immune to this' is factually accurate though, right? The entire point being that the problem of Hyundais and Kias being extremely stealable won't effect the car in this post.
Can you expand on this claim?
I mean it's a pretty well known thing, Google Hyundai easy to steal years and it will produce hundreds of results like this one
https://www.npr.org/2023/05/15/1176294867/kia-and-hyundai-face-pressure-to-stem-the-rampant-thefts-of-their-vehicles
That’s sad news to hear as they seem like one of the better brands.
That was only true for a few model years. Hasn't been true for a few years now because they add the anti-theft stuff.
2022 onwards according to NPR are fixed. 2011-2022 are years in danger.
Huh, that's a much longer cancer period than I remember. I have a 2023 sonata, so looked into the issue then because I was concerned, but it's been a couple years now.
You can't make an "affordable" electric SUV. The vast majority of the cost of any EV is in the battery. Giving it a giant frontal area means it's inherently inefficient and the only way to make up for that it by putting more battery in it, which jacks up the price.
Give us more small electric sedans, coupes, hatchbacks, etc.
I worked at a major battery company for 11 years. You're wrong. If you produce them in enough volume they're practically free. Less than the cost of an internal combustion engine. I'm not a Tesla fan, but their entire cost model is built on mass producing 18650 batteries.
Transporting refined fossil fuels from countries half way around the world is way less efficient and costly. Electric vehicles aren't going to defeat climate change, but I'm so sick of hearing pushback against them. They're at least better than ICE vehicles because batteries are 100% recyclable, and the electricity used to charge them can come from renewable sources.
Roll coal in your illegally modified truck all you want, but this is the future.
What are you talking about? They're absolutely not.
No one is talking about fossil fuels?
I think you may have replied to the wrong comment. I did not "push back against electric vehicles", I advocated for smaller, more affordable ones.
Thanks to your reply, I'm leaving Lemmy. This is such an insular doomsaying community that can't hear anything that conflicts with their world view. I came here as a reddit refugee when Spez decided he liked money more than anything, but I'm not going to be berated by people with closed minds. Have a nice life.
Glad to hear it, this community could use less toxic users.
Get fucked.
I thought you were leaving?
the rocket equation.
all my homies hate the rocket equation
Haven't heard of that before but yeah, kinda. Although it's more about aerodynamics than weight.
They should be! Hyundai's got the most beeping, nagging and sluggish and annoying infotainment system. I think their vision was something like: We want our system to behave like a permanent annoying backseat driver with lotsa beeping sounds, and make it really slow and not very responsive - well, they nailed it!
I haven't had any issues with the infotainment system in my Ioniq 5. I turn the car on, it boots straight into Android Auto, turns on my music automatically, and displays my GPS. What more do you need?