That's what I was thinking, but reading the article it's apparently not related to sending messages. It's simpler.
Google blocks RCS on rooted devices. And at the moment they don't tell the user that at all, it just fails to work. So actively the worst way to handle it.
I mean, I'm on /e/os and RCS just sits there in "Setting up" eventually just uninstalled Google nessages. RCS is obviously key to their global spying program or something. E2E my ass.
Like everything else now, they no longer check any of that directly. It's all handled via Play Integrity API. If the device fails the Play Integrity check it will fail.
When you find a suitable replacement for GBoard, let me know. Actually don't, I've tried them all and they all fall well short of Google's prediction algo.
If you have an iPhone and send a voice text to another iPhone and mention “Dave and Busters”, it will always fail silently. You can text the words “Dave and Busters” and it will go through, but if you say it in a voice text, it will never reach its destination.
That sounded too weird to be true yet it's true. The problem seems to be that it generates some HTML to wrap the attached audio file, does voice to text, and doesn't escape an ampersand, which trips a firewall.
It's bad UX that it fails silently there too; at least the recipient should get some sort of explanation.
RCS is an upgrade on SMS. The whole point of rooting is to circumvent restrictions, so wait for someone to stop shit talking modern protocols and figure out how to get it working. The idea that rooting was about making things easier was always a myth. It was never that.
iOS goes a step above, iMessage fails to have bare minimum of a modern messaging service, that being multiplatform support, instead it falls back to SMS or RCS, at least Google Messages is only SMS and RCS, as much as I hate Meta, their offering is literally more usable and better in any pratical way, Whatsapp works with very old rooted android phones, is multiplatform and can be installed directly from the website by just downloading the APK file, in regards to privacy concerns all of the 3 above are spyware. The only thing good that iMessage has, is that techinicly you don't need a phone number to use it.
RCS would only be an upgrade if it was possible to use with an open client and federated. As-is there are only 2 proprietary apps and 1 server, as far as I can tell. It's basically Google's version of WhatsApp.
RCS is horrible, it is a stop gap solution to a problem created by Apple, how hard is it to USA citizens to just use a proper messaging plataform, by that I mean, one that has multiplataform support and, no, falling back to SMS or RCS doesn't count. Apple's monopolistic and anticompetive behavior are a disgrace to society and humanity as whole.
Depends. When it comes to privacy they're a step up from virtually all vanilla Android distributions. And if you care about things like NFC payments and banking apps working reliably (= not potentially breaking with an update to the app or OS) in general that's your only option with Android. I'm not switching to a Pixel with Graphene, it just doesn't do what I need my phone to do. I might switch to an iPhone if the EU actually manages to force them to cut the walled garden crap.
Yes. I also ordered another orbic wonder (probably my 5th) but this one showed up in an opened box, so I aint gunna chance it. Will use it for music. I assumed the most secure second hand phone under 400 would be an iphone. Them orbic's don't even give you that boot message when the bootloader is unlocked.
Sending a message should never fail silently, so that's an improvement, but fuck whoever decided this.
That's what I was thinking, but reading the article it's apparently not related to sending messages. It's simpler.
Google blocks RCS on rooted devices. And at the moment they don't tell the user that at all, it just fails to work. So actively the worst way to handle it.
Now to see if they mean actually rooted devices, or anything with a non-stock OS.
I mean, I'm on /e/os and RCS just sits there in "Setting up" eventually just uninstalled Google nessages. RCS is obviously key to their global spying program or something. E2E my ass.
The hacky workaround is to send them via Beeper, which connects to Google Messages' web client.
Like everything else now, they no longer check any of that directly. It's all handled via Play Integrity API. If the device fails the Play Integrity check it will fail.
GrapheneOS stopped working years ago. Silently.
RCS works on GrapheneOS.
I'm glad it works for you but I don't think it reliably works for a lot of Graphene users:
https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/how-do-i-activate-rcs-on-grapheneos/23546/5
https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/1353-using-rcs-with-google-messages-on-grapheneos/254
Graphene OS works outside of Google's phone (Pixels)? If no, I am not considering it ever
Don't use Google apps
I don't trust any of them honestly
When you find a suitable replacement for GBoard, let me know. Actually don't, I've tried them all and they all fall well short of Google's prediction algo.
If you have an iPhone and send a voice text to another iPhone and mention “Dave and Busters”, it will always fail silently. You can text the words “Dave and Busters” and it will go through, but if you say it in a voice text, it will never reach its destination.
That sounded too weird to be true yet it's true. The problem seems to be that it generates some HTML to wrap the attached audio file, does voice to text, and doesn't escape an ampersand, which trips a firewall.
It's bad UX that it fails silently there too; at least the recipient should get some sort of explanation.
So much for those fake open standards created by Google and can only be used by Google
The enshittification continues unabated.
This is actually an improvement.
Better to give an error message, than to silently fail.
They're both enshittification, telling you why is an extra "fuck you" on top of something that shouldn't happen in the first place.
It is better than silent failure
RCS is an upgrade on SMS. The whole point of rooting is to circumvent restrictions, so wait for someone to stop shit talking modern protocols and figure out how to get it working. The idea that rooting was about making things easier was always a myth. It was never that.
You can absolutely make a modern protocol
Good luck convincing anyone to use it or implement it
Most users don't change defaults. It's the default in both Android and iOS.
iOS goes a step above, iMessage fails to have bare minimum of a modern messaging service, that being multiplatform support, instead it falls back to SMS or RCS, at least Google Messages is only SMS and RCS, as much as I hate Meta, their offering is literally more usable and better in any pratical way, Whatsapp works with very old rooted android phones, is multiplatform and can be installed directly from the website by just downloading the APK file, in regards to privacy concerns all of the 3 above are spyware. The only thing good that iMessage has, is that techinicly you don't need a phone number to use it.
RCS would only be an upgrade if it was possible to use with an open client and federated. As-is there are only 2 proprietary apps and 1 server, as far as I can tell. It's basically Google's version of WhatsApp.
It will now loudly fail.
RCS is horrible, it is a stop gap solution to a problem created by Apple, how hard is it to USA citizens to just use a proper messaging plataform, by that I mean, one that has multiplataform support and, no, falling back to SMS or RCS doesn't count. Apple's monopolistic and anticompetive behavior are a disgrace to society and humanity as whole.
Lol, still using sms.
We need a better open protocol
People actually use RCS and Google messages?
Doesnt matter to me if it's locked to Google Messages which now requires you login to a Google account.
RCS/SMS is such a bullshit standard, I hope US citizens migrate to something less worse eventually
Just ordered my first iphone. :s
Send it back. Not a good alternative
Depends. When it comes to privacy they're a step up from virtually all vanilla Android distributions. And if you care about things like NFC payments and banking apps working reliably (= not potentially breaking with an update to the app or OS) in general that's your only option with Android. I'm not switching to a Pixel with Graphene, it just doesn't do what I need my phone to do. I might switch to an iPhone if the EU actually manages to force them to cut the walled garden crap.
Why? Did you know about custom ROMs such as GrapheneOS and CalyxOS before the purchase?
Yes. I also ordered another orbic wonder (probably my 5th) but this one showed up in an opened box, so I aint gunna chance it. Will use it for music. I assumed the most secure second hand phone under 400 would be an iphone. Them orbic's don't even give you that boot message when the bootloader is unlocked.
Used pixels can easily be found for under $400, and CalyxOS supports a few Motos that can be found for under $200.
Ok