Spyke
quokk.au

Fun, albeit slightly pedantic, fact. Slavic languages, like Muscovite (which became “Russian”), only spread to Siberia during the Russian Tsardom’s settler colonial invasion in the late 1500s.

Before then we had lots of different indigenous languages, many in Turkic or Uralic language groups. So “Ivan Mammothovic” is an anarchronism.

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msproutreply
lemmy.world

I know this isn't strictly the subject at hand, but an old friend of mine is working on learning the Choctaw (Native American) language after maybe 20 years of working as a professional Japanese translator. He discovered an alarming number of cognates between words in Choctaw and words in Japanese, Okinawan, Ryukyuan, and Ainu language.

He made a video game "memory palace" to explore the similarities. Very cool experience, worth exploring if you love languages and have an interest in Native American culture.

https://tomatogame.itch.io/halito-tomato

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So “Ivan Mammothovic” is an anarchronism.

İlkhan Filoğlu.

EDIT : I want to have this pointed out explicitly that the name translates to "First Khan, Son of Elephant"

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lemmy.world

This entire thread is Atlantean erasure! While the Egyptians were building pyramids, the Atlantean civilization was busy inventing ASMR.

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Was this before or after their entire civilization was swallowed up by the sea?

How technologically advanced can they be if they get beaten by some stoned tall guys wearing wooden shoes?

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The saddest thing is that Homo florensis and megalopithecus lived in the same area but almost during the same time.

Imagine waking around the forest and seeing an ape many times taller than you, living among gods.

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lemmy.world

Siberians roaming freely, while thousands in Egypt are whipped to move stones.

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shalafireply
lemmy.world

Slave built pyramids seems to be a myth, a sticky one apparently.

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If we wanna stick to something Slavic the language would have been some form of Proto-Balto-Slavic (Wikipedia says it's era began in the 2nd m. BC) or maybe Proto-Indo-European (which's era "ends" c. 2500 BC) morphing into Proto-Baltic-Slavic, right?

But then the location would be impossible, since as another comment mentioned Slavs didn't penetrate into Siberia till the 16th century.

I'm too lazy right now to reconstruct this meme with the bottom panel referencing some form of Uralic or Turkic instead.

(This comment is not meant in a negative way btw. I love the idea and think it's quite funny!)

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