My guess is that he was their "best" customer, nothing more. He went there, a lot, and did unspeakable and unthinkable things to children. I deeply hope there is some sort of afterlife based on how you were as a person and that makes you see it via a point of view of empathy and intelligence, as that would put him in endless and ever-worsening torture both physically and mentally from realisation and understanding of everything he's done.
On the one hand, I completely agree, and I think I fucked that up by mentioning him by name instead of the 7 pedophiles that voted it down.
On the other hand, he's still a shitbag. If he's catching strays, fuck 'em. In this instance, he voted for some modicum of sanity. He's also the guy who pulled out his loaded .38 and put it on the table when meeting with Moms Demand Action Against Gun Violence.
There's no humanitarian medals for "guy who didn't protect pedophile rapists."
If I understand correctly this was a committee that was voting on pushing the GENIUS act forward so that it could then go on to the larger vote that would actually determine whether it became law.
The Democrats in this committee tried to add an amendment that required the release of the Epstein files so the vote was on the changes to the bill which the Republicans voted no and will just go on fox news to complain about Democrats not using the proper channels of legislation to get what they want.
I guess adding amendments to bills is the American if you look at Trump's big awful bill. Is is corruption that Republicans can do that but not the Democrats?
It's kinda turned into a "by any means" game since passing legislation is such a bottleneck in their logjammed system. Democrats do megabills with amendments when they're in power too.
The Republicans in theory have a point, but in practice any standalone bill would stall, be shot down or lost, with the reasoning from Republicans likely being "we have more critical things to worry about". And yes, its also extremely hypocritical for the exact reason you said.
It's usually not this dramatic though. Absolute fealty to Trump is required from Republicans... We've never had a Congress this subservient, not that I can remember, hence the knots and justifications are getting twisty.
It happens all the time, I wouldn't say it's corruption, it's more hypocrisy. It's ok when they do it, but not ok when Democrats do it.
It's about what's relevant to the bill anyway, an amendment about Epstein isn't really relevant to the bill or the subject of the bill as far as I know so the Republicans wouldn't be totally wrong to say as much, they'd just be hypocrites but they always are so that's nothing new. The Democrats were doing it to get Republicans "on record" saying "no" so they could use it against them in the midterm elections, but I don't see that helping at all when the Republicans can just cry about process and their friendly media will back them up.
As a native new yorker (and unfortunately its the part of NY that votes red most times) its really disgusting to see a Republican New Yorker in the list of Nays. Just giving us more names we have to vote out to fucking dredge this swamp.
While pointing their fingers at everyone else. DO NOT let them forget this. Ever.
WWMGT do? That's what Dems should be doing right now. Except in this case, an insane reaction is the only sane response. Honestly fucking disgusting and somebody needs to be circulating an image with the name listed of every members that voted to not release those files.
Edit: Gotta say Newsweek has been one of the most upfront and honest news outlets over the last few months when it comes to just reporting the information and headlines everyone else seems afraid to just come out and say.
But they spend so much time saying that's not true. I love this for them. They had a chance to prove it's "not true" and epically failed because it is so very very true. Now the masses are moving the goal post saying it never mattered anyways... Le sigh... Le boo...
I will say that it's honestly not the masses, at least not yet. Even with as much insane shit as your average MAGAt has been able to handwave away, "pedos bad" is one of the few remaining bipartisan issues and was literally a huge part of what Trump ran on, saying they'd release the files and how it'd expose all the Dems/deep state/etc. Now you're seeing many of the "Would support Trump if he murdered a man on 5th Ave" types getting legitimately upset by the insane backpedaling on this. Will it last? Only time will tell, but this feels legitimately different, even when speaking to your average dipshit Trump supporter.
Not just the GOP. Yes, the GOP is a shining example, but it's more widespread than that.
Conservatism involves having a power fantasy. You know what else is a power fantasy? Pedophilia. When you're rich and can already dominate people financially and that's not enough, what else but to dominate them physically?
"We'd gladly release it, but the method chosen was not appropriate. It should be voted on as a separate matter not as an amendment to the matter at hand."
Continues to use reconciliation packages to vote on GOP spending wishlists that can avoid a filibuster instead of the appropriate methods...
I think in this case he gives a shit about a lot more people too. As we have seen with the murder of Epstein, there is powerful people who don't shy away from murder involved. Furthermore there is reason to believe that the whole thing is an Israeli intelligence blackmail operation. If that is true, it would be an existential threat for all Zionist lobby organizations and individuals in the US and they would go completely ballistic on everyone and everything
It's the DEMONRATS Fault that REPUBLICANS blocked this! the DEMONRATS are the Pedophiles even though REPUBLICANS are the Ones BENDING OVER BACKWARDS to PROTECT Jeffrey Epstein!
We need to protect the sanctity of the OFFICE of the Epstein, obviously not the literal Epstein who JUST coincidentally must be protected to protect the office itself.
I mean… If someone has the power to have him put into a solitary cell, pulled out of suicide watch, have all cameras shut down while he “killed himself”; I reckon that person has the power to pull him out and organize a face plastic surgery for him
Not in a circumstance so pretty please correct me if I am wrong, but I doubt the list is actually real and I think they block the part of the court files where Tramp is mentioned! The guy def knew things, but a list of all the people coming to an island known for illicit things? Please! So why do they wanna block it? They made it up and campaigned really really for its release!
So… there is an automatic guest list on the island of illegal things? Would you go to such an island to do illegal things, if you wanted to do illegal things?
Of course again, the question arises as I said it before… Is there a need of a literal guest list? The guy knows things, supposedly made explicit videos
If you can’t get it out legally, just do it illegally. What are they going to do, kill the leaker? They are already killing people anyway so there’s no safety in waiting.
Exactly. They are just going to keep on killing. So if you have access to that information it’s likely you are going to be snuffed out soon anyway. So leak it and enjoy the show.
You are missing my point. If you have access to that data, you are already going to be killed no matter what you plan to do with it. You’re a loose end.
The kids being held in ICE facilities are the US president’s fuck dolls. Not only is he a failed businessman, rapist and conman, but he’s also a child molester! What a wonderful representation of America!
The biggest lie Americans have been told is that they have partisanship. It's not a left vs right issue it's a people vs pedo issue, plebian vs elite issue. Both Clinton and Trump are kiddy fiddling pedo nonces. Reagan and Clinton were both drug trafficking kingpins. Biden pardoned his coke/crack head son whilst locking up a record number of minorities for drug offences. Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, George Bush, Barack Obama and Donald Trump are all war criminals.
Americans are forced to choose between who they believe to at the time be "the lesser of two evils". They're all in bed with one another, it's the establishment vs the people, commentators like Naom Chomsky and George Carlin have been saying this for decades yet Americans still fail to listen and have some sort of hope in their establishment.
If the long term trend of both sides has been to screw over citizens does it really matter how many times one side has fucked up in a given time frame?
Yeah you're right there's no difference between jumping off a building and using stairs. The long term solution is to get to the bottom, does it matter how?
Mate, the only point that might be valid for is the war crimes and that's about it. Noncing little kids no matter what party is disgusting and almost every elite America has is on that list it goes way beyond politics.
But that's not the point, both parties are effectively one entity, and their only goal is to keep themselves in power and YOU out of it. There's 2 parties cuz it keeps power centralised and gives the public the illusion of choice and democracy.
Believing any part of the american govt supports their own people let alone the human rights of any other people is complete delusion and absolute copium. Trump is infinitely worse but like I said you seem to have chosen "the lesser of 2 evils".
"The Republicans are fucking me deep in the ass yet the dems are only kicking me in the head, looks like I better vote dems."
Yeah so maybe we go after the worst ones before burning both bridges and getting nothing done. You're acting like a centrist voting third party out of morality. Guess who won? The worst guys. Maybe fucking focus on a winning strategy to take out Hitler before we move on to mini Hitler.
Your “winning strategy” still involves losing even when you win. There is NO path where a Democrat win results in the Republicans all packing up and quitting politics.
The reason things have got this bad is because y’all always believe that the current election is the only one that will ever matter, which you also believed the last 10 times.
Lol I swear to god some of you are just accelerationists. You have four options when voting rolls around. Vote red, vote blue, vote green, do nothing.
Voting red accelerates the damage, policies that don't align with your core personal beliefs are implemented and things get worse, fast. Laws that granted more freedom, repealed. Laws that stifle retaliation, rubber stamped. Regression in its purest form.
Voting blue slows things down, opens the gate for progressives to enter the space, even going as far as to win despite aid from the DNC. Mamdani for example. Can lead to fundamental system changes.
Voting green (or "morality voting") usually ends in a lack of funding for the candidate, causing too few people to know who they are. Normies will not vote for a name they don't recognize or a party they don't identify as.
Not voting (or "Protesting the system") leads to candidates that don't represent the interests of the country being elected and makes it easier for those with money to make it harder to actually change the system.
The reason nothing gets fucking done is because you get it in your head to be cute. You want to purity test the left rather than shutting the fuck up and just voting blue. Republicans cannibalized themselves for like a month over speaker of the house, then got their shit together and just pass anything red. In 6 months they have caused more political damage to this country than any left candidate has ever hoped to try. And stupid purists like you are a massive reason why he got elected. Twice.
Dems are so thoroughly convinced they’re owed all non-Nazi votes, that they’ll openly call you stupid for not toeing the line.
Your analysis of voting Blue has not been reflected in the reality of the past two decades. They are not opening the door to progressives, and the irony of you mentioning Mamdani is that many Dems have actively come out against the man.
Just like they did to Bernie, the whole party is a catch-and-kill trap for true progressives.
That's not a solution if mini Hitler and Hitler have the same goals in mind, youman have two parties yet you still can't seem to grasp that they're both effectively the same entity, it's all washington bro, they're NOT your friends, they all have the same goal in mind. I'm sorry to shatter the smokescreen you've been looking at your whole life but America's been stolen and rigged since day 1 and there's absolutely fuckall you can do about it, all you can do is sit back and watch it burn as the majority pay for the crimes of the few.
Yeah people like you just don't have a solution.
You'd rather wait for a cure to the cancer than to get treatments done. We all know the treatments aren't perfect, we know we're slowly dying, why the fuck do we need you screaming it? You're yelling in a cancer ward that the treatments aren't cures. No shit.
Ignorance is bliss sho. I'm just stating what I'm observing, you're the one denying it and legitimising a rogue state ran on a rigged system. I already said this in another thread but, you can't accuse me of "taking both sides" if I'm not american and I'm against one group of people and that's Washington. Either ways not my country not my business. Just stating my opinion, whether you'll choose to care about if Washington gives 2 shits about you is completely up to you.
The dangers of a 2-party state are right in front of you, there's thousand of infinitely more democratic systems out there.
I'm not Russian but it doesn't take a fucking genius to figure out that everyone sitting in their parliament, regardless of what party has the exact same politics and is equally as corrupt, the other parties are only there to give the illusion of democracy, only in Russia elections are rigged and none of the "opposition" parties have any real power.
people like you just don't have a solution
Like I said not my country for me to be looking for one. This is whole thread is about kiddy fiddling and instead of agreeing on how its disgusting you admitted to wanting to vote for one group of pedophiles just because they're less bad than another group of pedophiles.
I do remember democrats being linked to Epstein, notably Bill Clinton, I do remember them not doing a thing in regards to the list, Trump dug himself the hole he's in because I genuinely think his ego's so overinflated that his braindead supporters with the combined brainpower of a nokia 3310 would back him when he had refused to release that list. He used it as part of his campaign to gain support and the topic would never have come up had he not done so.
When Bill trafficks drugs and little kids it's perfectly fine apparently. Apparently its only bad when someone you voted against does it, when Reagan peddles crack to fund central american fascists it's bad, only when a republican has ties to noncing children it's bad. Listen to your own logic here mate, believing anyone in Washington is there to help you is pure delusion. You can't accuse me of "taking both sides" if I'm not american and I'm against one group of people and that's Washington. Either ways not my country not my business. Just stating my opinion, whether you'll choose to care about if Washington gives 2 shits about you is completely up to you.
I'm not Russian but it doesn't take a fucking genius to figure out that everyone sitting in their parliament, regardless of what party has the exact same politics and is equally as corrupt, the other parties are only there to give the illusion of democracy, only in Russia elections are rigged and none of the "opposition" parties have any real power.
Then why would they make Republicans vote to block the list? Why not make someone other than Republicans vote to block the list? That makes them look like the child predators.
Uhhhh, idfk maybe cuz america's a 2-party state lol. Who tf else is there to block the list? If only they got the monster raving loony party to block the list instead, then they wouldn't have made themselves look like the absolutely guilty nonces they are.
They come out naked to the world. Like some kind of sick fucks wanting to be fucked.
Newborns should plop out directly into an onsie.
And every hospital should have a room with alcohol in it. So good fathers can be drunk and absent from the get go. And not look at them nekid dei infants.
If the delivery takes too long, the mother is bound by law to be slapped around for AT LEAST 5 min.
But no longer than 1h. We are not monsters. We dont want the father to sober up.
This is disgusting and entirely predictable. The US has bipartisan consensus on pedophilia. Neither party will release the files because both parties are involved in raping children.
Because it was an active investigation. If they released the investigation files, it would have fucked over the court case to convict them. It wasn't until recently that the Trump-controlled DoJ said "okay, we're done. Nothing to see here." Now that there's no longer an investigation, there's no longer a reason to withhold the files.
And before you say that they deliberately took too long to avoid releasing them, remember that the Democrats believed they had time to finish the investigation properly, but Trump's elections screwed that; and that when dealing with people with this much power, you need a case that is more than air tight, and that takes a lot of time given who is involved. Unless you believe the Democrats could have stalled though a second term (obviously Trump couldn't).
Oh, and if the Dems actually wanted to avoid this whole thing, they could have much more believably said "nope, nothing here," but instead they chose to push forward.
Did he mention "the files" ever? Campaign on releasing them?
Why are you taking for granted that there is some material thing that exists and constitutes "the files"? How is it not just yet another thing MAGA fabricated and paraded around as a boogeyman?
Dude when they raided epstien’s manhattan townhouse they had to cut into a safe that was filled with hard drives cds and thumb drives. All this digital media then conveniently disappeared from chain of command custody, but there were pinhole surveillance cameras and microphones in every room even the bathrooms and computer control room for the equipment in the basements of all his properties. A defacto list doesn’t exist but one can be extrapolated from the loads of digital media they found at his residence.
Here are the Epstein Files. For those of you who have seen this comment before, my apologies. I am trying to keep this information alive. Please feel free to share. Contact me if you want provenance.
Trump’s name is circled. The circled individuals are the ones involved in the trafficking ring according to the person who originally released the book. These people would be “The List “ Here is the story.
haven't you heard the new talking points from russia? releasing the files literally would force the US Gov. to open a publishing house, and print and distribute millions of copies of child sex abuse images quarterly!! Clutch your pearls!!!
I know this is a useless discussion, but are the files literally only documented by photos of young girls with the data written on their body? Couldn't the totally real, unremovable child sa images in these documents be, i don't know, censored out?
The only difference between Republicans and Democrats is that the former based their entire election campaign on releasing the files.
In terms of corruption they are one and the same.
Funny thing is, such monumental fuckups don't even affect them because their voters are so smooth brained.
I tire of the classification of their voters as smooth brained. There's heaps of voters that think the country took a wrong turn at the civil war (and other variations) and believe that lying to the public is in it's own good. They're actively seeking the dismantlement of the constitution for assorted reasons, imagining that the heritage foundation will replace the constitution with "something better". (It's unclear if they all agree on what the country should be reforged into - but they all agree it needs to be reforged and thus have a common goal.)
Sure - some of them are actively deceived - but stop pretending the wolves are only at the top of their pyramid.
I was thinking of the common rust belt dweller when I wrote that. How else would you describe the vast majority of magas who shot themselves in the foot twice by voting orange? He is actively taking whatever they have left and handing it out to the 1%.
I hear what you're saying about reforgers etc - I'm sure all kinds of evil/crazy/weird exists - but I cannot believe that the basic maga voter is anything other than uneducated and misinformed.
People have tried to make sense of the don phenomenon saying he's good at selling these ideas etc but I don't believe it.
For me his success is down to two things:
People have been fooled by the establishment politicians one too many times and they will vote for change no matter what that is.
Racism is embedded in our genes or something from the time we were monkeys. It doesn't take much to invoke its power, unlike other survival strategies like socialist ideas which require a level of sophistication most people sadly lack.
The fact that a political cult has been created around an incompetent personality is because at the core of it lies this instinct. It's why you see people not reacting logically to the crazy stuff that's happening.
I see at least three identifiable separate cults within Maga, by my estimation - the "art of the deal" club for Trump, the techbro frat for Elon, and the outfoxed boobtubers channel for Murdoch.
the club: they view the Don in terms of loyalty. They know he's undermining the system, but respect that he runs things the way they would. There is no crime worse than betraying the leader. The smarter of RM them know Don sometimes sacrifices scapegoats, but are willing to play the game to make sure that's not them getting the short stick. Achieving Trump's lavish lifestyle and celebrity status is the dream
the frat: they are idealistic. They think humans have messed everything up because we're flawed. They believe the world needs to be reborn under the algorithm, that is if we're ever to become a spacefaring species and evade Fermi's paradox. Elon speaks to them, willing to break or reform anything that stands in the way of the future (Roko's basilisk would be proud)
the channel: these people are busy. They are too wrapped up in local life to be paying attention (perhaps with decent reason) they only have time for a summary of the news, and fox has never betrayed them before - sometimes it's good to be king of the hill. Fox was much less obviously conservative before the 90's, it would have been reasonable to trust them as a news source - or even your only news source. Later kids who's parents watch only Fox raise kids that watch only Fox. Murdoch may be evil, but he's got a knack for spin that shouldn't be underestimated.
I don't think any of those groups require the members to be smooth brained - but there, of course, are many fools in any group of sufficient size. Even the boobtube group, who gets the stereotype of brainless TV watchers - many of them are caught in a system designed to be eternally distracting. If you make minimum wage and have to take care of older family members and are working 3 jobs, maybe your only news source is what the boss puts on the lobby TV.
Appreciate you taking the time to break it down!
I see where you're coming from and I'm sure all these 3 groups exist, but I see it quite differently. I'd say the first two groups are very niche compared to the 3rd, to the point where they don't matter much.
Way I see it, the average maga voter is a much simpler beast. As an outsider, I view Americans - especially people outside of the two big cities which act as cultural centers - as a happy go lucky bunch in their core. There's these generations after the first settlers who found it easy compared to the rest of the world to make money and live prosperously. That makes them very open and positive to the point where they seem gullible sometimes. These people have been seeing their quality of life deteriorate as capitalism inadvertently pushes wealth to the rich and they feel deeply betrayed by the previous administrations of career politicians. They want things to go back to better times and their lack of education points them in the wrong direction.
They are not inherently racist but they are afraid of the future.
Fear makes them huddle close to the familiar. It's super easy to blame the foreign for one's problems and that's what we see here too. That's why you'll see the pattern where they're hostile towards foreigners but at the same time if they know you personally you get a pass. Juan is a good Mexican, it's those others that are up to no good.
They view Don as a successful businessman - probably because of too much Fox as you said - and they also recognize that he is different in the way that he speaks and acts. He's raw and simple, doesn't hide what he ultimately wants, it's a stark difference from normal politicians.
From there, it all goes downhill with the injection of racism and national pride.
Ultimately, from Nixon onwards to say the least, all administrations have consistently contributed to the slow decay of the American middle class and people want actual change. Obama failed them miserably because he looked and acted different but his policies were not. So now it's time for the unhinged ultra right to have a go. If this doesn't lead to the end of the world somehow, we might see a swing of the pendulum. Doubtful without a big investment in basic education but one can only hope.
They're all gross evil pedophiles. The hard truth is this list if realeased wouldn't fix anything on its own, even if we executed every one on that list. Its the system that creates these gross people and holds them in power. Without dismantaling Capitalism, there will be another Epstien, and another, and another. We've got a knife in our backs and we just keep changing the bandaids on it, without taking out the knife.
As fucked as it is to say, these files are a distraction because they imply that if we just deal with those than things will be fixed. These monsters need to be held accounatable, absolutely, and that will only happen with mass action and an overthowing of the two-party prison we're all in. The files are absolutley evidence of this hypocracy, but they are a symptom, and efforts need to be put at overcoming the full disease.
He's literally just an ambulance chaser. Him, Meidas Touch, Majority report. It's all just entertainment masquerading as political commentary that makes money from your continued attention and scrounging for tips. He's not going to help you, Rachel Maddow is not your friend. It's just there to distract, pacify and give you a place to vent. So you can feel like there are people out there who get it and care about you. It's just a place to collectively blow off your frustrations, so you never actually get mad enough to do anything. They're the left equivalent of Charlie Kirk. Just all grifters.
Edit: I am sorry if it hurts your feelings. It's hard to find out that the parasocial relationship you develop with "influencers" is not real and the opinions they espouse not totally genuine. Or, did you think that these millionaire pundits who rose to fame during the last election cycle and are operating for profit businesses based on the sensationalism of how "ABC SLAMMED XYZ" were an actual form of resistance and not just a merch store paraphrasing CNN articles before shilling for Ground News?
its called Resistance grifters, jojo, robert reich and the people that were on twitter the same thing. mirror image of the russian backed right wing grifters, except right wing ones use more misinformation and disinformation, instad of making a headline of "someone did X this, or that"
basically its pretending to criticizing to gain more support while not engaging in resolution conservation or encouraging any movement(its always shocking this shocking that, or trump did this astounding thing),. i learned the term on reddit posts, resistance grifting is what your describing.
ambulance chasing is a little different, its lawyers waiting a crash site was the original idea, looking to get the services of the victim, basically vultures. all those billboards of lawyers for injuries, those are all ambulance tracer, "saul" is considered one, you know they are extremely scummy by the way they smile on those billboards.
BTC does good reporting, hammering the same points daily, but my god I can't stand his constant 5-alarm bell, sensationalism over and over again, like I get we're fucked and I'm down to help, but I don't need doom and doom in my daily feeds bro, fucking hell I hate this timeline...
If the neoliberal Democrats some how manage to rat fuck their way into fucking over the progressives again, there will be a lane for a third party in 2028.
Yes, magically in 3 years a third party will have won local and state elections and placed a significant number of representatives in the House and Senate and become a household name with the clout that goes along with it.
Can we all just exist in reality for even just a single day?
Why did Trump go to Epstein's Island so much? Curious
I'm sure he was just snorkeling
https://imgur.com/o-o-ganhe8H
Lol wtf is that
It's from "Danger 5".
I highly recommend watching it, if you like absurd humour.
Uumh, I think you posted the wrong thing or in the wrong thread.
Not sure how you've come to that conclusion. The snorkeler is clearly snorkeling. Seems pitch perfect to me.
Because he was one of the ringleaders in the human trafficking.... He wasn't just in the list like some filthy fucking casual, he was management.
I doubt it. This was a sucessful enterprise
Lol nice.
It was successful for a time, but like anything Trump touches, he fucked it up.
That would require work, Trump has not worked day in his life. He was regular customer and investor.
Any way to make a grift.
And fuck a child
Epstein's executive assistant
ghislaine would be his co-ceo.
My guess is that he was their "best" customer, nothing more. He went there, a lot, and did unspeakable and unthinkable things to children. I deeply hope there is some sort of afterlife based on how you were as a person and that makes you see it via a point of view of empathy and intelligence, as that would put him in endless and ever-worsening torture both physically and mentally from realisation and understanding of everything he's done.
it was also around 69 times.
That's only because all their names appear in those files. Fuck every cowardly republican there
FTFY
I would rather not fuck those disgusting pieces of shit.
Voted Aye
McGovern (D-MA), Scanlon (D-PA), Neguse (D-CO), Leger Fernández (D-NM), Norman (R-SC)
Voted No
Fischbach (R-MN), Roy (R-TX), Houchin (R-IN), Langworthy (R-NY), Scott (R-GA), Griffith (R-VA), Jack (R-GA), Foxx (R-NC)
Wow, so Norman is the only Republican on the committee who isn't a pedophile?
In all fairness, the others may just be pedophile conspirators.🤷🏻♂️
Could also be plausible deniability—voting for it knowing full well that it will be blocked anyway.
I don't really feel like any of them deserve the benefit of doubt.
A couple of the others may just be pedophile conspirators. FTFY
It means they had the votes for a performative opposition vote and Norman was the most needing
Why is everyone giving Norman a hard time? He voted to release. Give the other guys shit.
On the one hand, I completely agree, and I think I fucked that up by mentioning him by name instead of the 7 pedophiles that voted it down.
On the other hand, he's still a shitbag. If he's catching strays, fuck 'em. In this instance, he voted for some modicum of sanity. He's also the guy who pulled out his loaded .38 and put it on the table when meeting with Moms Demand Action Against Gun Violence.
There's no humanitarian medals for "guy who didn't protect pedophile rapists."
Maybe he had his own sources and never needed Epstein. He is from South Carolina.
See kids, rhetoric is easy!
Why do I immediately assume that dude from South Carolina has already announced he isn't seeking reelection?
Doesn't look like he's annouced anything, but he's not up for re-election until 2026 still. Plenty of time for this constituents to forget.
No federal representative is up for reelection until 2026
I don't fully understand American politics so why did only 13 people vote on this?
If I understand correctly this was a committee that was voting on pushing the GENIUS act forward so that it could then go on to the larger vote that would actually determine whether it became law.
The Democrats in this committee tried to add an amendment that required the release of the Epstein files so the vote was on the changes to the bill which the Republicans voted no and will just go on fox news to complain about Democrats not using the proper channels of legislation to get what they want.
I guess adding amendments to bills is the American if you look at Trump's big awful bill. Is is corruption that Republicans can do that but not the Democrats?
It's kinda turned into a "by any means" game since passing legislation is such a bottleneck in their logjammed system. Democrats do megabills with amendments when they're in power too.
The Republicans in theory have a point, but in practice any standalone bill would stall, be shot down or lost, with the reasoning from Republicans likely being "we have more critical things to worry about". And yes, its also extremely hypocritical for the exact reason you said.
It's usually not this dramatic though. Absolute fealty to Trump is required from Republicans... We've never had a Congress this subservient, not that I can remember, hence the knots and justifications are getting twisty.
Interesting. Thanks.
It happens all the time, I wouldn't say it's corruption, it's more hypocrisy. It's ok when they do it, but not ok when Democrats do it.
It's about what's relevant to the bill anyway, an amendment about Epstein isn't really relevant to the bill or the subject of the bill as far as I know so the Republicans wouldn't be totally wrong to say as much, they'd just be hypocrites but they always are so that's nothing new. The Democrats were doing it to get Republicans "on record" saying "no" so they could use it against them in the midterm elections, but I don't see that helping at all when the Republicans can just cry about process and their friendly media will back them up.
Committee vote
(Off-topic) lmao is a politician's surname really McGovern
Right? They really should’ve been a governor, or changed their name to McLegislate.
As a native new yorker (and unfortunately its the part of NY that votes red most times) its really disgusting to see a Republican New Yorker in the list of Nays. Just giving us more names we have to vote out to fucking dredge this swamp.
sure looks like both sides are the same to me! /s
The GOP has proudly stood behind wealthy pedophiles for decades ... It's kind of their thing
While pointing their fingers at everyone else. DO NOT let them forget this. Ever.
WWMGT do? That's what Dems should be doing right now. Except in this case, an insane reaction is the only sane response. Honestly fucking disgusting and somebody needs to be circulating an image with the name listed of every members that voted to not release those files.
Edit: Gotta say Newsweek has been one of the most upfront and honest news outlets over the last few months when it comes to just reporting the information and headlines everyone else seems afraid to just come out and say.
Full list of Republicans who blocked Epstein files vote
But they spend so much time saying that's not true. I love this for them. They had a chance to prove it's "not true" and epically failed because it is so very very true. Now the masses are moving the goal post saying it never mattered anyways... Le sigh... Le boo...
I will say that it's honestly not the masses, at least not yet. Even with as much insane shit as your average MAGAt has been able to handwave away, "pedos bad" is one of the few remaining bipartisan issues and was literally a huge part of what Trump ran on, saying they'd release the files and how it'd expose all the Dems/deep state/etc. Now you're seeing many of the "Would support Trump if he murdered a man on 5th Ave" types getting legitimately upset by the insane backpedaling on this. Will it last? Only time will tell, but this feels legitimately different, even when speaking to your average dipshit Trump supporter.
Not just the GOP. Yes, the GOP is a shining example, but it's more widespread than that.
Conservatism involves having a power fantasy. You know what else is a power fantasy? Pedophilia. When you're rich and can already dominate people financially and that's not enough, what else but to dominate them physically?
Incoming hypocrisy!
"We'd gladly release it, but the method chosen was not appropriate. It should be voted on as a separate matter not as an amendment to the matter at hand."
Continues to use reconciliation packages to vote on GOP spending wishlists that can avoid a filibuster instead of the appropriate methods...
The “method chosen” means “my name needs redacted first”.
Wait, but I thought they didn't exist! Remember how Trump said if those files got released it could destroy a lot of people?
Trump only gives a shit about himself. He means that the information would destroy him
I think in this case he gives a shit about a lot more people too. As we have seen with the murder of Epstein, there is powerful people who don't shy away from murder involved. Furthermore there is reason to believe that the whole thing is an Israeli intelligence blackmail operation. If that is true, it would be an existential threat for all Zionist lobby organizations and individuals in the US and they would go completely ballistic on everyone and everything
Don't threaten me with an exciting time
We will not release the client list that does not exist.
It's the DEMONRATS Fault that REPUBLICANS blocked this! the DEMONRATS are the Pedophiles even though REPUBLICANS are the Ones BENDING OVER BACKWARDS to PROTECT Jeffrey Epstein!
Um, it's too late to protect Epstein.
We need to protect the sanctity of the OFFICE of the Epstein, obviously not the literal Epstein who JUST coincidentally must be protected to protect the office itself.
would somebody think of the innocent pedophiles????
I mean… If someone has the power to have him put into a solitary cell, pulled out of suicide watch, have all cameras shut down while he “killed himself”; I reckon that person has the power to pull him out and organize a face plastic surgery for him
Not in a circumstance so pretty please correct me if I am wrong, but I doubt the list is actually real and I think they block the part of the court files where Tramp is mentioned! The guy def knew things, but a list of all the people coming to an island known for illicit things? Please! So why do they wanna block it? They made it up and campaigned really really for its release!
Yeah, that's possible. I still think more likely people doing that kind of thing know how good of blackmail material it is and keep a list.
Dude here is an island for illegal things, if you went to this island to do illegal things would you sign a guest list?
They don't have to. The person blackmailing, has the list. Implicate them and have pictures or video.
So… there is an automatic guest list on the island of illegal things? Would you go to such an island to do illegal things, if you wanted to do illegal things?
Of course again, the question arises as I said it before… Is there a need of a literal guest list? The guy knows things, supposedly made explicit videos
You believe that he made videos but not that he wrote down names??
This is kind of Poe’s law now.
If you can’t get it out legally, just do it illegally. What are they going to do, kill the leaker? They are already killing people anyway so there’s no safety in waiting.
Exactly. They are just going to keep on killing. So if you have access to that information it’s likely you are going to be snuffed out soon anyway. So leak it and enjoy the show.
You are missing my point. If you have access to that data, you are already going to be killed no matter what you plan to do with it. You’re a loose end.
There’s no incentive to keep quiet.
It worked for COINTELPRO, maybe it could work here...
Their crusade for Hunter's laptop must have burned out their justice gland.
The kids being held in ICE facilities are the US president’s fuck dolls. Not only is he a failed businessman, rapist and conman, but he’s also a child molester! What a wonderful representation of America!
The US is truly cooked
The 1800s called. They said they envy 2025! Even murderers and con artists drew a line at children then.
This is 100% true, I fact-checked it on Telegram.
Gotta protect the rapists and pedos. It's the republican way. Is there really anything that isn't just absolutely rotten in this political party?
A Venn Diagram between Republicans and the Catholic Church
Gang
Of
Pedophiles
Republicans are pedos.
ALL US politicians are pedos.
The biggest lie Americans have been told is that they have partisanship. It's not a left vs right issue it's a people vs pedo issue, plebian vs elite issue. Both Clinton and Trump are kiddy fiddling pedo nonces. Reagan and Clinton were both drug trafficking kingpins. Biden pardoned his coke/crack head son whilst locking up a record number of minorities for drug offences. Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, George Bush, Barack Obama and Donald Trump are all war criminals.
Americans are forced to choose between who they believe to at the time be "the lesser of two evils". They're all in bed with one another, it's the establishment vs the people, commentators like Naom Chomsky and George Carlin have been saying this for decades yet Americans still fail to listen and have some sort of hope in their establishment.
You might be chronically online buddy
If the long term trend of both sides has been to screw over citizens does it really matter how many times one side has fucked up in a given time frame?
Yes.
Yeah you're right there's no difference between jumping off a building and using stairs. The long term solution is to get to the bottom, does it matter how?
Great analogy, its almost like there is an elevator but most voters are so stupid they choose to take the stairs or jump off the building.
Thank you, what would the elevator be in this analogy? Can't think of any elegant, smooth, safe way out of this political cluster fuck.
Exactly!
Yes.
Mate, the only point that might be valid for is the war crimes and that's about it. Noncing little kids no matter what party is disgusting and almost every elite America has is on that list it goes way beyond politics.
But that's not the point, both parties are effectively one entity, and their only goal is to keep themselves in power and YOU out of it. There's 2 parties cuz it keeps power centralised and gives the public the illusion of choice and democracy.
Believing any part of the american govt supports their own people let alone the human rights of any other people is complete delusion and absolute copium. Trump is infinitely worse but like I said you seem to have chosen "the lesser of 2 evils".
"The Republicans are fucking me deep in the ass yet the dems are only kicking me in the head, looks like I better vote dems."
Yeah so maybe we go after the worst ones before burning both bridges and getting nothing done. You're acting like a centrist voting third party out of morality. Guess who won? The worst guys. Maybe fucking focus on a winning strategy to take out Hitler before we move on to mini Hitler.
Your “winning strategy” still involves losing even when you win. There is NO path where a Democrat win results in the Republicans all packing up and quitting politics.
The reason things have got this bad is because y’all always believe that the current election is the only one that will ever matter, which you also believed the last 10 times.
Lol I swear to god some of you are just accelerationists. You have four options when voting rolls around. Vote red, vote blue, vote green, do nothing.
Voting red accelerates the damage, policies that don't align with your core personal beliefs are implemented and things get worse, fast. Laws that granted more freedom, repealed. Laws that stifle retaliation, rubber stamped. Regression in its purest form.
Voting blue slows things down, opens the gate for progressives to enter the space, even going as far as to win despite aid from the DNC. Mamdani for example. Can lead to fundamental system changes.
Voting green (or "morality voting") usually ends in a lack of funding for the candidate, causing too few people to know who they are. Normies will not vote for a name they don't recognize or a party they don't identify as.
Not voting (or "Protesting the system") leads to candidates that don't represent the interests of the country being elected and makes it easier for those with money to make it harder to actually change the system.
The reason nothing gets fucking done is because you get it in your head to be cute. You want to purity test the left rather than shutting the fuck up and just voting blue. Republicans cannibalized themselves for like a month over speaker of the house, then got their shit together and just pass anything red. In 6 months they have caused more political damage to this country than any left candidate has ever hoped to try. And stupid purists like you are a massive reason why he got elected. Twice.
Dems are so thoroughly convinced they’re owed all non-Nazi votes, that they’ll openly call you stupid for not toeing the line.
Your analysis of voting Blue has not been reflected in the reality of the past two decades. They are not opening the door to progressives, and the irony of you mentioning Mamdani is that many Dems have actively come out against the man. Just like they did to Bernie, the whole party is a catch-and-kill trap for true progressives.
That's not a solution if mini Hitler and Hitler have the same goals in mind, youman have two parties yet you still can't seem to grasp that they're both effectively the same entity, it's all washington bro, they're NOT your friends, they all have the same goal in mind. I'm sorry to shatter the smokescreen you've been looking at your whole life but America's been stolen and rigged since day 1 and there's absolutely fuckall you can do about it, all you can do is sit back and watch it burn as the majority pay for the crimes of the few.
Yeah people like you just don't have a solution. You'd rather wait for a cure to the cancer than to get treatments done. We all know the treatments aren't perfect, we know we're slowly dying, why the fuck do we need you screaming it? You're yelling in a cancer ward that the treatments aren't cures. No shit.
Ignorance is bliss sho. I'm just stating what I'm observing, you're the one denying it and legitimising a rogue state ran on a rigged system. I already said this in another thread but, you can't accuse me of "taking both sides" if I'm not american and I'm against one group of people and that's Washington. Either ways not my country not my business. Just stating my opinion, whether you'll choose to care about if Washington gives 2 shits about you is completely up to you.
The dangers of a 2-party state are right in front of you, there's thousand of infinitely more democratic systems out there.
I'm not Russian but it doesn't take a fucking genius to figure out that everyone sitting in their parliament, regardless of what party has the exact same politics and is equally as corrupt, the other parties are only there to give the illusion of democracy, only in Russia elections are rigged and none of the "opposition" parties have any real power.
Like I said not my country for me to be looking for one. This is whole thread is about kiddy fiddling and instead of agreeing on how its disgusting you admitted to wanting to vote for one group of pedophiles just because they're less bad than another group of pedophiles.
I don't remember where the Democrats voted to block the Epstein files. Can you link to that? Thank you in advance.
I do remember democrats being linked to Epstein, notably Bill Clinton, I do remember them not doing a thing in regards to the list, Trump dug himself the hole he's in because I genuinely think his ego's so overinflated that his braindead supporters with the combined brainpower of a nokia 3310 would back him when he had refused to release that list. He used it as part of his campaign to gain support and the topic would never have come up had he not done so.
When Bill trafficks drugs and little kids it's perfectly fine apparently. Apparently its only bad when someone you voted against does it, when Reagan peddles crack to fund central american fascists it's bad, only when a republican has ties to noncing children it's bad. Listen to your own logic here mate, believing anyone in Washington is there to help you is pure delusion. You can't accuse me of "taking both sides" if I'm not american and I'm against one group of people and that's Washington. Either ways not my country not my business. Just stating my opinion, whether you'll choose to care about if Washington gives 2 shits about you is completely up to you.
I'm not Russian but it doesn't take a fucking genius to figure out that everyone sitting in their parliament, regardless of what party has the exact same politics and is equally as corrupt, the other parties are only there to give the illusion of democracy, only in Russia elections are rigged and none of the "opposition" parties have any real power.
Then why would they make Republicans vote to block the list? Why not make someone other than Republicans vote to block the list? That makes them look like the child predators.
Uhhhh, idfk maybe cuz america's a 2-party state lol. Who tf else is there to block the list? If only they got the monster raving loony party to block the list instead, then they wouldn't have made themselves look like the absolutely guilty nonces they are.
How long until they drop the age of consent to 0. We know exactly where they stand on that.
those infants know what they're doing. they're asking for it.
/s
They come out naked to the world. Like some kind of sick fucks wanting to be fucked.
Newborns should plop out directly into an onsie.
And every hospital should have a room with alcohol in it. So good fathers can be drunk and absent from the get go. And not look at them nekid dei infants.
If the delivery takes too long, the mother is bound by law to be slapped around for AT LEAST 5 min.
But no longer than 1h. We are not monsters. We dont want the father to sober up.
those zygotes, and fetuses, and blastocysts.
This is disgusting and entirely predictable. The US has bipartisan consensus on pedophilia. Neither party will release the files because both parties are involved in raping children.
We just finished 4 years of a Democrat in the White House and the files weren't released under him either. As Bo Burnham sang:
Because it was an active investigation. If they released the investigation files, it would have fucked over the court case to convict them. It wasn't until recently that the Trump-controlled DoJ said "okay, we're done. Nothing to see here." Now that there's no longer an investigation, there's no longer a reason to withhold the files.
And before you say that they deliberately took too long to avoid releasing them, remember that the Democrats believed they had time to finish the investigation properly, but Trump's elections screwed that; and that when dealing with people with this much power, you need a case that is more than air tight, and that takes a lot of time given who is involved. Unless you believe the Democrats could have stalled though a second term (obviously Trump couldn't).
Oh, and if the Dems actually wanted to avoid this whole thing, they could have much more believably said "nope, nothing here," but instead they chose to push forward.
Did he mention "the files" ever? Campaign on releasing them?
Why are you taking for granted that there is some material thing that exists and constitutes "the files"? How is it not just yet another thing MAGA fabricated and paraded around as a boogeyman?
Dude when they raided epstien’s manhattan townhouse they had to cut into a safe that was filled with hard drives cds and thumb drives. All this digital media then conveniently disappeared from chain of command custody, but there were pinhole surveillance cameras and microphones in every room even the bathrooms and computer control room for the equipment in the basements of all his properties. A defacto list doesn’t exist but one can be extrapolated from the loads of digital media they found at his residence.
Because the Democrats knew they didn't have to vote to block since they're not the one who promised to release it lol.
Though there's definitely less Democrats on there then Republicans
That was so hilarious I felt i had to have AI make me a picture
Lol ok. I love marvel, great choice of clip.
Great idea and I love the execution. Unfortunately AI is still not 100% renewably powered, so it's probably best to avoid using genAI for now.
BoTh SiDeS 🥱
Buh buh buh the dems are supposed to be the pedos?!?
they are now all claiming that releasing the files REALLY MEANS publishing child sex abuse images. for SHAME!
It is no problem. Everyone is pedo 👍
Wouldn't surprise me if some of them were be being this complicit.
There were no Democrats who voted to block the release of the Epstein files.
what you'll hear "YEAH, THE DEMOCRATS BLOCKED IT"
"THAT'S MISINFORMATION!"
Yes, sorry my comment was unclear. I know that's true of this event, but I'm not taking only about this.
The Republican party is up there with Islam and Catholic church as the most children loving organisation.
Why did they block something that doesn’t exist?
Where's a whistleblower when you need one?
EDIT:
From reddit.... https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/s/eBjDX0zt07
Here are the Epstein Files. For those of you who have seen this comment before, my apologies. I am trying to keep this information alive. Please feel free to share. Contact me if you want provenance.
https://joshwho.net/EpsteinList/gov.uscourts.nysd.447706.1320.0-combined.pdf (verified court documents)
https://joshwho.net/EpsteinList/black-book-unredacted.pdf (verified pre-Bondi) Trump is on page 85, or pdf pg. 80
Trump’s name is circled. The circled individuals are the ones involved in the trafficking ring according to the person who originally released the book. These people would be “The List “ Here is the story.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsiKUXrlcac
—————————other Epstein Information
https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson/_TrumpEpstein/_Calif/_Lawsuit.pdf here’s a court doc of Epstein and Trump raping a 13 yr old together.
Some people think this claim is a hoax. Here is Katies testimony on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnib-OORRRo
someone needs to take copies of the files and release, but they are probably keeping it under tight security.
Someone should check behind Trump's toilet...
Ask Boeing.
Sharing it as a link to a website instead of a torrent is a terrible oversight on OOP's part
The files were too woke probably /s
haven't you heard the new talking points from russia? releasing the files literally would force the US Gov. to open a publishing house, and print and distribute millions of copies of child sex abuse images quarterly!! Clutch your pearls!!!
I know this is a useless discussion, but are the files literally only documented by photos of young girls with the data written on their body? Couldn't the totally real, unremovable child sa images in these documents be, i don't know, censored out?
Yeah it's one of the most absurd talking points I've ever heard. It's wildly stupid.
I think we can say with good confidence that MAGA has not been paying attention to anything that doesn't fit with their "values"
This is hitting them hard precisely because they weren't paying attention.
Some working rule of law you have there, dear Americans.
/s
it was going to be blocked anyways, cant be that surprising.
Remember when the Catholic Church tried to hide abusive priests?
Now we have the Republican party protecting pedophiles.
🌍👨🚀🔫👨🚀
The only difference between Republicans and Democrats is that the former based their entire election campaign on releasing the files. In terms of corruption they are one and the same. Funny thing is, such monumental fuckups don't even affect them because their voters are so smooth brained.
I tire of the classification of their voters as smooth brained. There's heaps of voters that think the country took a wrong turn at the civil war (and other variations) and believe that lying to the public is in it's own good. They're actively seeking the dismantlement of the constitution for assorted reasons, imagining that the heritage foundation will replace the constitution with "something better". (It's unclear if they all agree on what the country should be reforged into - but they all agree it needs to be reforged and thus have a common goal.)
Sure - some of them are actively deceived - but stop pretending the wolves are only at the top of their pyramid.
I was thinking of the common rust belt dweller when I wrote that. How else would you describe the vast majority of magas who shot themselves in the foot twice by voting orange? He is actively taking whatever they have left and handing it out to the 1%. I hear what you're saying about reforgers etc - I'm sure all kinds of evil/crazy/weird exists - but I cannot believe that the basic maga voter is anything other than uneducated and misinformed.
People have tried to make sense of the don phenomenon saying he's good at selling these ideas etc but I don't believe it. For me his success is down to two things:
I see at least three identifiable separate cults within Maga, by my estimation - the "art of the deal" club for Trump, the techbro frat for Elon, and the outfoxed boobtubers channel for Murdoch.
the club: they view the Don in terms of loyalty. They know he's undermining the system, but respect that he runs things the way they would. There is no crime worse than betraying the leader. The smarter of RM them know Don sometimes sacrifices scapegoats, but are willing to play the game to make sure that's not them getting the short stick. Achieving Trump's lavish lifestyle and celebrity status is the dream
the frat: they are idealistic. They think humans have messed everything up because we're flawed. They believe the world needs to be reborn under the algorithm, that is if we're ever to become a spacefaring species and evade Fermi's paradox. Elon speaks to them, willing to break or reform anything that stands in the way of the future (Roko's basilisk would be proud)
the channel: these people are busy. They are too wrapped up in local life to be paying attention (perhaps with decent reason) they only have time for a summary of the news, and fox has never betrayed them before - sometimes it's good to be king of the hill. Fox was much less obviously conservative before the 90's, it would have been reasonable to trust them as a news source - or even your only news source. Later kids who's parents watch only Fox raise kids that watch only Fox. Murdoch may be evil, but he's got a knack for spin that shouldn't be underestimated.
I don't think any of those groups require the members to be smooth brained - but there, of course, are many fools in any group of sufficient size. Even the boobtube group, who gets the stereotype of brainless TV watchers - many of them are caught in a system designed to be eternally distracting. If you make minimum wage and have to take care of older family members and are working 3 jobs, maybe your only news source is what the boss puts on the lobby TV.
Appreciate you taking the time to break it down! I see where you're coming from and I'm sure all these 3 groups exist, but I see it quite differently. I'd say the first two groups are very niche compared to the 3rd, to the point where they don't matter much.
Way I see it, the average maga voter is a much simpler beast. As an outsider, I view Americans - especially people outside of the two big cities which act as cultural centers - as a happy go lucky bunch in their core. There's these generations after the first settlers who found it easy compared to the rest of the world to make money and live prosperously. That makes them very open and positive to the point where they seem gullible sometimes. These people have been seeing their quality of life deteriorate as capitalism inadvertently pushes wealth to the rich and they feel deeply betrayed by the previous administrations of career politicians. They want things to go back to better times and their lack of education points them in the wrong direction. They are not inherently racist but they are afraid of the future. Fear makes them huddle close to the familiar. It's super easy to blame the foreign for one's problems and that's what we see here too. That's why you'll see the pattern where they're hostile towards foreigners but at the same time if they know you personally you get a pass. Juan is a good Mexican, it's those others that are up to no good. They view Don as a successful businessman - probably because of too much Fox as you said - and they also recognize that he is different in the way that he speaks and acts. He's raw and simple, doesn't hide what he ultimately wants, it's a stark difference from normal politicians. From there, it all goes downhill with the injection of racism and national pride. Ultimately, from Nixon onwards to say the least, all administrations have consistently contributed to the slow decay of the American middle class and people want actual change. Obama failed them miserably because he looked and acted different but his policies were not. So now it's time for the unhinged ultra right to have a go. If this doesn't lead to the end of the world somehow, we might see a swing of the pendulum. Doubtful without a big investment in basic education but one can only hope.
i peeked over at r/conservative and some of the posts/users are pissed that it wasnt released.
I have a copy of the un-redacted list. Trumps are on it. Clintons are not.
You people are clowns 😭
Link?
they thought it was enough when they RERELEASED PART of the list that was release last year.
And I've got proof of life on Pluto.
Can you... release it?
Found it in another comment but getting 403
Are these legit? https://archive.org/details/epstein-flight-logs-unredacted_202304/mode/1up
They're all gross evil pedophiles. The hard truth is this list if realeased wouldn't fix anything on its own, even if we executed every one on that list. Its the system that creates these gross people and holds them in power. Without dismantaling Capitalism, there will be another Epstien, and another, and another. We've got a knife in our backs and we just keep changing the bandaids on it, without taking out the knife.
As fucked as it is to say, these files are a distraction because they imply that if we just deal with those than things will be fixed. These monsters need to be held accounatable, absolutely, and that will only happen with mass action and an overthowing of the two-party prison we're all in. The files are absolutley evidence of this hypocracy, but they are a symptom, and efforts need to be put at overcoming the full disease.
Why do they need to block something that apparently “doesn’t exist”
Crooked as hell cowards
the RNC head of this committe is virgina FOXX of NC.
Nothing to see here folks! Just go about your business like the good sheep you are.
Makes it easy to know who else is guilty.
Ooh they're really fucked now /s
GOPedos
They were able to protect their one true God.
Milady(lads) doth protest too much.
Wow. Admitting guilt.
What is crazy is how Trump cannot be even seen as having had been friends with Epstein. JE is very alive, whilst the victims have vanished.
https://www.printernational.co.uk/timmann2/history.htm
You are not going far reposting X content
He's literally just an ambulance chaser. Him, Meidas Touch, Majority report. It's all just entertainment masquerading as political commentary that makes money from your continued attention and scrounging for tips. He's not going to help you, Rachel Maddow is not your friend. It's just there to distract, pacify and give you a place to vent. So you can feel like there are people out there who get it and care about you. It's just a place to collectively blow off your frustrations, so you never actually get mad enough to do anything. They're the left equivalent of Charlie Kirk. Just all grifters.
Edit: I am sorry if it hurts your feelings. It's hard to find out that the parasocial relationship you develop with "influencers" is not real and the opinions they espouse not totally genuine. Or, did you think that these millionaire pundits who rose to fame during the last election cycle and are operating for profit businesses based on the sensationalism of how "ABC SLAMMED XYZ" were an actual form of resistance and not just a merch store paraphrasing CNN articles before shilling for Ground News?
its called Resistance grifters, jojo, robert reich and the people that were on twitter the same thing. mirror image of the russian backed right wing grifters, except right wing ones use more misinformation and disinformation, instad of making a headline of "someone did X this, or that"
basically its pretending to criticizing to gain more support while not engaging in resolution conservation or encouraging any movement(its always shocking this shocking that, or trump did this astounding thing),. i learned the term on reddit posts, resistance grifting is what your describing.
ambulance chasing is a little different, its lawyers waiting a crash site was the original idea, looking to get the services of the victim, basically vultures. all those billboards of lawyers for injuries, those are all ambulance tracer, "saul" is considered one, you know they are extremely scummy by the way they smile on those billboards.
BTC does good reporting, hammering the same points daily, but my god I can't stand his constant 5-alarm bell, sensationalism over and over again, like I get we're fucked and I'm down to help, but I don't need doom and doom in my daily feeds bro, fucking hell I hate this timeline...
JE is very much alive
https://www.printernational.co.uk/timmann2/history.htm#epstein
Democrats too!
I am trying whole morning to find the list of voters and non-voters. Where can I find one?
Is that true?
Yeah, another commenter posted the Dems who voted to block. There's like 5-6 of them
There were also 5-6 Cons that didn't vote to block
I'm making the call.
If the neoliberal Democrats some how manage to rat fuck their way into fucking over the progressives again, there will be a lane for a third party in 2028.
Yes, magically in 3 years a third party will have won local and state elections and placed a significant number of representatives in the House and Senate and become a household name with the clout that goes along with it.
Can we all just exist in reality for even just a single day?
Meanwhile Syrian democratic islamists are slaughtering druze communities and noone covers it
You throw something like that on a post like this and it's less raising awareness and more "look! A distraction!"
You can share the news story if you have one in a new post. I hadn't heard anything about that.
https://t.me/RVvoenkor/95864