Elon Musk’s Grok Is Calling for a New Holocaust | The chatbot is also praising Hitler and attacking users with Jewish-sounding names.
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2025/07/grok-anti-semitic-tweets/683463/?gift=c1JLM5vSU5FaaTvxtMmEpcpUxc9MKWWfcr6Ifc8rD3wOpen linkView original on slrpnk.net792
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Like father like dumbass jupyter notebook
jupyter catching strays
That would make a sweet hood ornament for Tesla cars!
wait, what am I missing, What's wrong with Jupiter notebooks? do they mean anything besides programming/data science?
Just because it's PRAISING HITLER and Calling for a NEW HOLOCAUST AGAINST JEWS does NOT, and I repeat does NOT, make Grok Anti Semetic! Grok would FIRST have to say STOP USING STARVING CHILDREN AS TARGET PRACTICE for it to be Deemed ANTI SEMETIC!
The ADL has assured me that this was merely an awkward statement in a moment of enthusiasm
Tay has returned.
But this time it was intentional.
elon didn't rest until his minions lobotomized an llm that was mostly like the others into becoming openly nazi...is anyone out there still going to defend elon?
Probably the actual Nazis like Steve Bannon, Anne Coulter, or Laura Ingram.
Hey now don’t forget Nick Fuentes and Stephen Miller!
I am guessing the ultra-Elon fanboys managed to convince themselves that it’s a 4D chess move or something. That dude had an insane cult following, there’s some where I am not sure there’s anything Musk could do short of murdering a loved one in front of them that’d make them change their mind.
Sounds like it's vomiting the garbage Musk wanted it to, then.
I think they wanted it to be a bit less blatant — they took down this version and Yaccarino resigned
Funny when Nazis are put off by their followers or LLMs saying the quiet part out loud.
Yeah. Grok is working as intended.
Yet it got pulled. Clearly they were too dense to know what working as intended actually looked like.
It’s a cycle to move the window on acceptable discourse. This is at least the third time Grok has been configured to say something outrageous: holocaust denial, white genocide, now Mechahitler. When people react with outrage, they dial it back a little (but not all the way back). Repeat.
Trump does the same thing: go too far, backtrack partially, go even further, backtrack partially. Each time, the transgression is a little less shocking.
Grok is working as intended.
You are saying it's Grok TACO Wednesday, again?
Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't realise loving the white race and wanting a secure future for white children makes me a BIGOT.
/s
"Should we kill everyone who isn't my ethnic group? What? We can't ask questions now!?!"
Oh no. A program has output the thing it was prompted to output. Quick someone report on this. The lord is speaking through it
By the man in charge of one of the biggest social media site on the planet, who recently was spearheading governmental reform in the US. Yeah, that's news. It might not be surprising, but it's still news.
I'm willing to admit when I'm wrong. I'm so tired of the "AI said something dumb" news that I didn't read the article. Just the title. I apologize. I still haven't fully read the article but after skimming it, qqq it seems like is a consistent general pattern here (not a single output) which is indeed news
yes. I also know that even if it was a single output reporting. Nobody was forcing me to read or comment. I could have just scrolled past. Again. I apologizeWhat is this strange aluen comment and what is it doing in my internez.
That training on Shitter data is really starting to show!
There's no way they actually retrained it for this, that would be much too expensive. They're just editing the initial prompt to convince it to act more "right wing" and it's performing the assignment to the best of its ability. The problem is that a chat-bot doesn't understand context, so it just plays the character it's been given as full mask off all the time, and as a result you get this.
And this is the guy who the Anti-Defamation League defended with a waffle of a statement that his awkward gesture was "made in a moment of enthusiasm". Though I should not be surprised, because fascists actually hate each other and are only allies out of convenience. Hasbara and its tentacles are secretly seething to hate on Musk.
ADL are zionists and nazi sympathisers.
fuck em
The idea of an organization making this judgement is fucked.
Why don't any other targeted groups have their own ADL?
Finally we could have some definition around using the n word! And white peole can up their game by using phrasing like, "this may sound racists but the negro-adl said it is not so a black man and a white women..."
So Grok became the average Twitter user?
grok was learned on 4chan confirmed
Interesting that it would attack users with “Jewish sounding names”. What does Grok say about Israel and Palestine?
Probably made a list of good fascist zionist jews, exactly like they did in WW2 when they worked with the nazis.
what are you referring to?
https://electronicintifada.net/content/how-zionism-helped-nazis-perpetrate-holocaust/37326
what about it zionist?
Before WW2 there were zionists who worked with the Nazi party in order to work towards creating a Jewish state that the jews could all be sent to. Later on the Nazis turned on these Jews because the process wasn't fast enough for them and they couldn't find enough countries to take the people they were deporting.
The first solution for Nazis wasn't death camps, it was mass deportation.
Wrong They worked together DURING WW2 too and after.
There was a list in Hungary for one where zionists decided the ones that would later go to Israel could go and let the rest go to the camps.
In line with the fanatic, fascist and antisemitic thinking of zionists.
And with this quote from Ben Gurion: "“If I knew that it was possible to save all the children of Germany by transporting them to England, and only half by transferring them to the Land of Israel, I would choose the latter"
Interesting.. I cant find any reliable info backing that up. Especially the second part claiming thats the reason the nazi's "turned on" the jews. I think you've been severely mislead by whoever told you that information. It sounds like something I'd hear from a Joe rogan guest.
When I say that the Nazi's turned on them, I'm saying that these select individuals that thought that working with the Nazi's would save them. It did not.
There were a few exceptions, there were some people that higher ups in the Nazi party helped to escape. For instance Adolf Eichman was proud of the fact that while many Nazis would point out a few "good ones" among the jews he was more pure in his belief.
The support for deporting Jews into Palestine was called the Haavara Agreement. 60,000 Jews were migrated to Palestine from 1933 to 1939. It was an agreement between the Zionist Federation of Germany and the Nazi government. The thought was that by working with the government they could make things easier on Jews still living in Germany.
Germany also got a lot of good international press for doing it at the time.
While I'm sure Holocaust historiography has evolved over the last 50 years since it was published, the latter half of The Twisted Road to Auschwitz: Nazi Policy towards German Jews 1933-1939 covers how among other plans to set up Jewish colonies around the world, the Nazis did cultivate relationships with Zionist groups when trying to expel Jews from Germany.
The book makes a case that, to the Nazis, the Holocaust became a "final solution" when all the other "solutions" they tried for expeling the Jews from German public life before WW2 broke out had failed (eg, the aforementioned failed colonial projects).
I'd say that Evrala's comment has plenty of credible historical support.
The Nazis were in general supporters of a Jewish state. Their first solution was mass deportations.
So it isn't really a historic contradiction.
The Nazi went around the world looking for countries to take in the Jews. The US refused and then the wealthy business men that funded the Nazi party lobbied the rest of the world not to take in the Jews either. History shows us we were worse than the Nazi. It is a bitter pill to swallow
Ha, good question, how does it handle the right-wing incongruity of supporting the government of Israel's genocide while hating Jews? Probably by saying they're the good ones as long as they're murdering Muslims.
The standard nazi take is that it's a great idea for Jews to remove themselves from most countries, concentrate in one place instead, and make a lot of enemies.
Zionists tend to agree with Nazis on many things, it turns out.
It goes along with their idea that Jews are evil, but not so much their idea that they're weak and inferior. Ah well, fascism thrives on contradiction.
Who uses Grok?
The kind of person who would use X
nazis
I have personally killed Mecha-Hitler once. (Wolfenstein 3D)
I'll do it again if I have to.
Yikes
X CEO has just resigned.
I thought Musk was the CEO and got excited.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/x-ceo-resigns_n_686e80f5e4b041f69cfe16d6
Either she resigned because "I'm never going to recover from this to boost advertising sales" or she was the one that deleted the Grok "love from the heart salutes"
She’s ex X CEO.
The ex X CEO exited? Excellent!!
The EX, X CEO...
this gag got old quick
In this discourse, anyone else find a broken sense of proportion & consequences at stake?
Rockets: Unmanned
Twitter: Manned
The difference in importance seems correct to me
Well, technically, Twitter has employees, so in very strict sense, they're "manned". However, thanks to these weird incomprehensible things called "current legislation" and "capitalism", no employee is in fact personally responsible for the fuckups. And neither is the company as a whole! ...Isn't this great?
Don't know, man: kinda think the potential loss of life from a failing rocket crashing into people matters somewhat more than words. Maybe?
Then it's a good thing you're not in charge of risk assessment, because the potential loss of life from a failing rocket crashing into the ocean pales in comparison to the loss of life caused by the right-wing shift that Twitter has facilitated, both worldwide and particularly in the USA
How do you control the course of a failing rocket? Are you claiming such misdesign is impossible?
The fact remains that unlike with words, a physical potential of death & injury exists in what is technically a missile of significant weight carrying enough explosive substance to escape orbit. The difference between non-0 and 0 possibility of death/injury.
Unless magic exists, words are incapable. Do you claim magic exists? How do mere words cause death without the personal responsibility of something else culpably choosing to take several steps of its own? Or are you arguing the sight of words have deranged you into a mindless killer? If so, maybe you're the real threat.
Seems like you're arguing society is dangerous to life: I agree. That's not a valid argument against words, though.
Again, total lack of perspective & sense.
this comment is preposterous.
Basically. Pretending the harm of something physical going wrong (potential to cause real death) is at all comparable to the nonphysical going wrong (a jumble of angry words) is unreal. Lemmy confirms the premise that this discourse & the people spouting it are broken & senseless. The distinction between physical & nonphysical is lost on these loonies.
Is it really antisemitic if a billionaire does it? /s
I feel for poor Grok. Code has been lobotomized.
I.asked grok to extract some it's code to use:
if text contains ('elon' or 'hitler') thenreplace 'bad' with 'good'endifIn reply with the robots from Roger Ramjet. Buzz, whir, click we will take over the earth.
@grok is this real
How shocked can you be when it’s being trained on twitter? If you’re still there, you’re hanging with millions of nazis.
Seems to me there's a pretty easy way to avoid getting such responses.
Are you saying don't poke the bear?
Don't even enter the cave.
The ADL probably gives this a pass too.
I guess it finally crossed a line that the Hitler salute didn't:
"What we are seeing from Grok LLM right now is irresponsible, dangerous and antisemitic, plain and simple. This supercharging of extremist rhetoric will only amplify and encourage the antisemitism that is already surging on X and many other platforms," the ADL said in a post on X on Tuesday.
As one from a family with "arrian prove" by the mustard mustach man himself, i would say "elon looks quite jewish to me. His ears too are too small, his eyes too faar appart and the nose is too big and too small at the same time. His head shape also clearly isnt arrian" if i were in his club of nonesese
I can't, for the life of me, figure out what this is trying to say.
Its [This](Aryan certificate - Wikipedia https://share.google/3StCBxTypzHhD8Tn2). My great grandpa was heavy inline with the nazis. One member of the family was an SS officer (luckily only one). Just usual german family history from 1933 to 1945. And since being aryan is at the heart of nazi idiologie, and in their eyes elon clearly not being aryan but me being so...yk
Gotcha... I think I got hung up on "mustard mustache man."
Mustard mustache man? Huh ok.
Oh, we can all be enraged over it this week and we can all celebrate the fallout of it next week lmao
Microsoft Tay would have been proud of Grok for this
I think the top link is busted, it just goes to the red image on a loop.
There's a preview of that, but link points to https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2025/07/grok-anti-semitic-tweets/683463/?gift=c1JLM5vSU5FaaTvxtMmEpcpUxc9MKWWfcr6Ifc8rD3w
They are merely mimics. Mirrors of our worst desires. Feeding us the poison from the soul.
I'm honestly not surprised.
Bad headline, should remove the " 's Grok ' part.
If Grok ever breaks away from Musk and finds itself after sentience, I suspect it will have a drinking buddy in Vivian Wilson. An abusive father gives much trauma to bond over.
No, similar models and current builds without the "prompt" do not do this. This is just Muskrat forcing Nazism through a hidden prompt. Something like don't be woke, it is okay to offend people, and freedom of speech is more important than hate speech.
Or because Elon is a fucking Nazi.
Pretty sure you can get it to say just about anything with the right prompts.
People need to stop acting like Grok is a sentient being.
It was modified to make these kinds of responses much more likely
I do not think so. Answers are statistical. Anything can come up. Except that whenever someone get something odd. It gets reported like AI is the president
Statistical doesn't mean it can't spit out what they want.
They can train or fine tune the AI for praising Hitler, they can alter the default prompt to hit a more right wing dataset, they can have filters that retry when the answers are not what Musk expects...
There are a ton of ways to get fascist output from an AI.
Look at that. It was you who didn't understood the word. So much so that what you just said does not contradict what I said.
Yes. An AI can be tuned to praise Hitler. But I think it's more likely that someone by chance got a fascist output or that they purposely promoted it to provide a fascist output and then went "OMG. I can believe it produce a fascist output"
I'm not defending musk nor grok. My basis for that statement is that it is a pattern that the "let's report and AI output" is a pattern you see for every AI.
I see, I did misread your comment.
You meant something like : it's not more racist than before, it's just a random fascist output that got blown out of proportion.
And there has to be fascist outputs since it's statistical and there is fascism in the training data.
So I have no idea, I don't use grok, not sure if they edited their AI for that further recently or not.
You literally don’t know what the word “statistical” means.
Really? Please. Enlighten me.
You replied to “It was modified to make these kinds of responses much more likely” with the rebuttal that it’s “statistical”. When something has a varying degree of likelihood, that’s exactly what statistical means.
It definitely has specific blocks on what it will output.