My wife and many of her friends are in medical fields, while myself and several of their spouses are in technical fields. We've had almost exactly the same exchanges.
Even in medicine, there are big blind spots between specialties. My radiologist who did my wife’s sonogram was like “yeah I got into this because I fucking hate needles. If I wanted to go into nursing I’d need to use them a lot. So here I am, doing all of the non-invasive stuff instead.”
Eh, until we're truly a post scarcity society (if such a thing is even possible) scientist would have to justify use of resources no matter what the system we use.
You use resources you have to justify them. Maybe to a voluntary committee. Maybe to a Soviet. Maybe to the supreme leaders appointee. Maybe to a sub unit of the technocratic cabal.
Searching for it I mainly got Dame Edna Average and while she looks a bit like a salamander that didn't seem right.
I was immediately thinking about all the different prefixes for RNA and eDNA did not make any sense. Maybe "expressed DNA" but that's just the transcriptome and that also RNA again.
measuring cell stress (literally how much you can deform a cell) as a factor that can influence its development is a bit of a hot crossover field in Physics and Biology atm
I worked on that a bit! Never realized it had such a crossover potential. Also considering how physicists cant stand biologists and probably vice versa.
if I was a reviewer I would make them change the terms. they went for eDNA in the soil, but they also called it eDNA when collecting from skin swab, which by definition, isn't eDNA (unless you're trying to detect organisms that are in contact with the salamander). they are at best controls or sample confirmations. but I won't call it eDNA.
However, I've had to review papers much worse than this. I'm only arguing semantics here, interesting paper though.
eDNA is the idea of taking a environmental sample like water or air, and finding traces of DNA and figuring out what creatures live in the area. you wouldn't take a sample from an animal mouth to check for eDNA.
you could tell what salamanders live in a pond by getting eDNA from the water, but no real point in checking the DNA in the salamander mouth.
I'd be pretty impressed if salamanders readily incorporated environmental transposons into their genome. Don't octopuses rewrite their genetics on the fly though? I think I remember reading something about that years ago
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My wife and many of her friends are in medical fields, while myself and several of their spouses are in technical fields. We've had almost exactly the same exchanges.
Even in medicine, there are big blind spots between specialties. My radiologist who did my wife’s sonogram was like “yeah I got into this because I fucking hate needles. If I wanted to go into nursing I’d need to use them a lot. So here I am, doing all of the non-invasive stuff instead.”
Same with me and my wife except she's in civil design
I love the exchange, but the backdrop of capitalism demanding results is grim.
I just want everyone to enjoy exploring and sharing without worrying about grants...
Eh, until we're truly a post scarcity society (if such a thing is even possible) scientist would have to justify use of resources no matter what the system we use.
Stop bringing your practical realism into my dreamworld moral absolutism
You use resources you have to justify them. Maybe to a voluntary committee. Maybe to a Soviet. Maybe to the supreme leaders appointee. Maybe to a sub unit of the technocratic cabal.
Since you're going to have to explain yourself anyway, may as well just do whatever you want and explain it to the court afterwards.
I help elderly with their technology. A coworker does outreach for community events. We would both rather choke on a revolver than do the others job.
This is my dunderhead comparison. Look mom I'm like the science people in the meme
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ER nurses: Imagination is your limit; now where tf did the patient go‽
What the frog is eDNA?
Environmental DNA, apparently.
Ah, like when you monitor sewage for diseases.
Searching for it I mainly got Dame Edna Average and while she looks a bit like a salamander that didn't seem right.
I was immediately thinking about all the different prefixes for RNA and eDNA did not make any sense. Maybe "expressed DNA" but that's just the transcriptome and that also RNA again.
How Edna writes her name when she forgets she has caps lock on.
I only recently heard this for the first time too, when i watched this video about deep sea eDNA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8i95R3tgJIs
measuring cell stress (literally how much you can deform a cell) as a factor that can influence its development is a bit of a hot crossover field in Physics and Biology atm
I worked on that a bit! Never realized it had such a crossover potential. Also considering how physicists cant stand biologists and probably vice versa.
only if you're immature
wait if it's about eDNA? why were they swabbing salamander's cheeks?
it's environmental DNA.
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Donald-Walker/publication/315115862_Methodological_considerations_for_detection_of_terrestrial_small-body_salamander_eDNA_and_implications_for_biodiversity_conservation/links/5b7c8beb299bf1d5a71b9476/Methodological-considerations-for-detection-of-terrestrial-small-body-salamander-eDNA-and-implications-for-biodiversity-conservation.pdf
thanks for the paper.
if I was a reviewer I would make them change the terms. they went for eDNA in the soil, but they also called it eDNA when collecting from skin swab, which by definition, isn't eDNA (unless you're trying to detect organisms that are in contact with the salamander). they are at best controls or sample confirmations. but I won't call it eDNA.
However, I've had to review papers much worse than this. I'm only arguing semantics here, interesting paper though.
I haven't been doing biology stuff, but it did remind me of the old good days. Thanks
Maybe you're trying to match individuals to dissemination, idk man neither of us were there
maybe, but a cheek swab for eDNA sounds like sci fi word salad.
"How much DNA do salamanders absorb from the environment, and how much of that gets incorporated into their DNA?" I would assume.
WHAT?
eDNA is the idea of taking a environmental sample like water or air, and finding traces of DNA and figuring out what creatures live in the area. you wouldn't take a sample from an animal mouth to check for eDNA.
you could tell what salamanders live in a pond by getting eDNA from the water, but no real point in checking the DNA in the salamander mouth.
maybe to double check results for testing.
I'd be pretty impressed if salamanders readily incorporated environmental transposons into their genome. Don't octopuses rewrite their genetics on the fly though? I think I remember reading something about that years ago
I had to present research at a conference for the first time this year. Felt pretty much exactly the same
It is always the same.