Democratic lawmakers denied entry to Alligator Alcatraz immigration detention site
A group of Florida Democratic state lawmakers was blocked from entering the Alligator Alcatraz immigrant detention facility in the Everglades Thursday, despite citing legal authority for an official legislative site visit.
Florida Democratic Party Chair Nikki Fried issued a statement following the incident, saying, "Lawmakers on the ground were just blocked from entering a state-funded detention site because of so-called 'safety concerns.' This is a taxpayer-funded facility, run by the State of Florida. Our elected officials have every legal right to walk through those gates."
Fried added, "What are Ron DeSantis and his administration trying to hide? If it's unsafe for lawmakers to visit, how is it safe for anyone inside?"
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Cowards, along with their voters who allow this feckless posturing.
Korean lawmakers were climbing fences and grabbing guns out of the hands of law enforcement in response to something not even half as serious.
Show up armed or with an armed security force, you goddamn clowns. This isn’t 2004 GWB shit. You’re standing up to Nazis, or you aren’t.
The SK soldiers' hearts were not in it. They were given orders, but nobody was actually going to do anything to stop the Parliament from getting in, and everyone knew it.
MAGA thugs are absolutely willing to use violence against Democrat lawmakers. They already have.
Given your post history, I already know what your reply will be, but post it anyway.
Ice has shown extreme cowardice when power is equal between parties and showing up with an armed force could be effective.
Better than this performative bullshit.
Performative bullshit? Doing their jobs is performative?
How is this doing their job and what did they accomplish?
They are inspecting a thing in their jurisdiction.
How are they supposed to bring an armed contingent? The Constitution does not allow the legislature to control either military or law enforcement.
edit: oh, it's you. I didn't check the username before.
Well, get on with your revolution and stop being a keyboard warrior. You fake Leninist.
Oh yes wasting everybody's time by demanding to be let in to do an inspection when they know they're not going to be let in.
We've done this song and dance before. They'll go to court and they'll be let in for a token inspection.
As far as armed contingent not that the Democrats are going to do shit but private security is definitely a thing. So is armed private security.
At least I'm not spreading around dead ideas that don't work that waste people's time and and activism.
Edit: FYI depending on the frontend you use, you can add a user tag so that you can tag me as "fake Leninist" and save us both sometime
For instance I got you as "boot" probably for some defense of the United States that we argued about.
I've only read it a few times but can you show me where the US Constitution allows The Legislature to employ private security to forcefully enter a facility controlled by The Executive?
You're talking about open revolt and that makes me think you're a plant. Maybe you're just a silly commie or maybe you're actually a state actor. I'm leaning towards silly commie.
edit: well, I guess Article 1 allows Congress to create agencies and define their scope but traditionally law enforcement has been left to The Executive. So Congress would have to found, fund, and direct a separate agency from scratch. I don't think that's going to happen.
They say that, but MAGAs are cowards at their core. Let's see if they will actually fire on elected officials who are simply doing their jobs. I doubt they will.
Time to mag-dump right back then, bring the NFAC with banana mags and full auto rifles.
That's what the NFAC buddies are there for.
I mean, to that equivalence, all bigots are cowards at their cores.
Then grab the guns and see if they fire. If they do, then civil war it is. Let these MAGA fucks fire the first shot and then the last will be fired when they're lined up against the wall.
You can be the first one to grab and see what happens
If I was a US citizen, fucking gladly!
I'll happily die for being the first one with the FUCKING BOLLOCKS to do something and go down in history. What about you? Do you have the stones or are you happy to wither away under a fascist banner to be forgotten?
Home of the brave? Nah land of the scared cowards, what a failed colony!
100%. A bunch of clowns who have been talking a big game for a century and are now quaking in their boots when it comes time to live up to their stated values.
Still, they did it unarmed. Your country has more guns than people. Those thugs just kidnap and take anyone they want. At least use your guns for self defence.
This photo is so fucking badass. Representative straight up throwing herself into the line of fire.
That's some pretty big talk
Fascism is pretty big shit.
You're talking about "feckless posturing" when all they wanted to do was go look, or get denied the opportunity to look.
You want them to go have a fight?
I didn't say any of that.
which, the "feckless posturing" or going armed?
Both.
Oh, sorry. Failure to read username again. My bad.
They need to stop doing this type of thing. Maybe it's time they show up with their own armed security and force their way in. I don't know. Something.
Democrat leaders showing up and getting arrested or sent away is not a good look. It's like instilling learned obedience. They need to actually do something instead of showing up knowing they're going to get punched in the face just so they can highlight how mean the Republicans are. If they are showing up to inspect then they need the legal knowledge and have the power to see it through.
The Republicans backed by legal minds at groups like heritage foundation are leveraging the law. Do these Democrats not have their own legal teams and groups researching how to get things done?
It's leaving me feeling like this is all theater
They need to find a way to go after the agents. Get arrested and then file suit against them. It'll get their names in public record too.
Yes like there needs to be a serious investigation if they ever get back in power.
Oh shit it makes sense now why they cover their faces.
If they showed their face then there is a chance they could be held accountable later on. I mean I know that was the underlining thing but now that I'm thinking that there could be a future investigation to hold them accountable that there is possibly no fucking way. It's not like people on the street recording them illegally kidnapping people can be used since they're completely covered.
That's what I keep saying. 10,20,30 years from now, there's a chance that there will be repercussions. There's also a good chance that they will never be able to visit certain other countries ever again.
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The theater aspect was also described by Martha Mitchell.
Aligator Auschwitz.
This is what use media needs to be referring to it as.
Alligator Auschwitz. Get some cojones, fuckers.
American media is in the "if we say it out loud, it'll become true" phase.
They're not wrong, but it will become true regardless, so it's kinda irrelevant.
The big thing is that admitting earlier could prevent it going as far as it has in the past.
Where’s the merch for this name?
Setting up an Etsy store rn
So arrest the people preventing access on the spot?
Our representatives should just bring a posse of 30 armed guards and force their way into the trafficking centers. The Trump Regime, like all bullies, only respects power.
Bonus points if all or most of the armed guards are large, 6'5"+ linebacker sized black dudes looking like they're ready for a fight!
A mixed group would be better. It shuts down a lot of propaganda spins. It needs to be hard to spin as anything other than patriots Vs fascists (particularly not black Vs white).
*Alligator Auschwitz
Anyone going to tell me I'm just a "gloom and doomer" and decency will prevail?
Fuck that. The United States is a fascist nation. It's our new reality. The lives we lived are over. Resist your fascist masters PEACEFULLY and LEGALLY by preserving history, literature, and science that might be destroyed by the regime.
One day they will destroy themselves. Most of us won't live to see it. But those who are there, will need to rebuild. They'll need the things that are being burned.
I disagree. Fight fascism with everything you've got.
the whole point is fascism is that you can't fight it legally.
there are legal ways to resist, but the state is the law and fighting the state will be illegal.
I don't agree with peaceful resistance.
if i can't have peace, why should they?
Not sure a peace sign and legal papers will be useful in a gun battle.
I just want to say thank you to the sane people I see here every day. It helps.
I see you've dropped the trenchcoat. ✊🏼
Idk what that means but ✊️
Eh, silly quip about your username. 😜
Oh of course lol sorry
Are they really a union with just three kobolds in a trenchcoat, though?
Depending on how similar the kobolds in question are to jellyfish, even one could be a whole colony of organisms. Just sayin'.
Cowards. you've obviously got something to hide and you're afraid to show it
don't believe that cover story one bit lol
if it's too dangerous for visitors it is not suitable for human habitation
As lawmakers you can bring the local sherrifs to press your case.
Florida sheriffs.... https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/13/us/video/florida-sheriff-warns-protesters-we-will-kill-you-digvid
Well, I guess that about sums up our requisite response.
why do you think they built in in florida? local sheriff won't help democrat lawmakers
Not to fear, they'll get their chance at a free visit of undefined duration. Then, it's our turn, citizens! Got your ticket? If you can read & prefer to think your own thoughts, you've got one on the way. 😶
It needs to be destroyed, not toured.
Deportation macht Frei
Trump was just in there like a pig in shit.
If Trump has his way I’m sure they’ll be getting to know the place soon enough.
Did they get any merchandise?
THEY'RE SELLING MERCHANDISE LIKE IT'S A GODDAMN AMUSEMENT PARK!
"denied access" doesn't sound like they showed up ready to do anything about the place, fucking sad
Just wait for the next hurricane to destroy that POS
Patience. They'll see the inside of that place soon enough.