Spyke
reddit·RedditbyMagister

Reddit undeleted all my comments!

After 13 years, I had quit reddit 1st June 2023. At the time I joined beehaw (lemmy.world didn't exist) and used the redact utility to delete all my posts/comments (we could at the time delete instead of mass editing.

I lurk sometimes some niche communities or go on reddit from google search, I never comment or upvote. I sometimes click on my user to see there was no comments/saved/etc.

Yesterday, randomly, I clicked on my username and saw all my 2023 and less post, 13 years of comments, I was like WTF, after 2 years, reddit decided to take an old backup or something and undelete all my comments!!!

As now redact only do mass editing and pretty slowly, I used something else, https://github.com/Jelly-Pudding/ereddicator/tree/main, followed instructions, it deleted ~3600 comments in less than 2 hours.

I'll monitor from time to time if reddit keep undeleting them, to feed their AI...

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lemmy.world

Oh, my sweet summer child. They were never your comments, you just wrote them. They belong to King Steven the Turd, Greediest of Pigboys now.

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lemm.ee

during the API purge the did a mass undeletion of everything, I think. stuff I wrote and deleted years ago was unearthed. People were deleting things en masse and reddit threw a fit. they went beyond undeleting recent things and just restored literally everything, it seems

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lemmy.world

If you can still log in, maybe making a series of edits to each comment to gradually turn them into nonsense wouldn’t trigger anything on Reddit’s side to undelete them or impede your editing.

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This. Every few months I go through and edit out batches of my old comments. All of them have stuck to this day.

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That's pretty bold even for a greedy social media sell-out. Glad you found the right tool to counteract, though whether they're really deleted still remains to be seen.

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No of course they are not really deleted, just a flag in their SQL database or something, but it's still annoying...

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Reddit has had a “bug” for years where when you delete comments and posts it says they’re deleted but never actually verified they were.

When you delete quickly the API just says it’s deleted. You have to reload and purge multiple times to actually remove your content.

I wouldn’t put it past Reddit to undelete content, but at the time a lot of the complaints Reddit was restoring content were due to this bug.

It’s been a bug for at least 10 years.

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lemmy.world

So it’s also really easy to get banned from Reddit. Just suggest that Elon musk is a criminal and should be tried for his crimes and hopefully executed.

They deleted all my comments and profile for me.

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sh.itjust.works

You could try a GDPR request. They are required to actually delete it permanently from their database and backups.

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sh.itjust.works

Doesn’t this just apply to Europeans in Europe? Reddit is in the US and all.

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sh.itjust.works

US companies must comply if they serve European customers. Reddit may make you try to prove you are European and deny it.

I believe under the CCPA which is a California law that is also strong and would also require them removing your data. It might apply to them even if you don’t reside in California since that is where they are based.

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ccpreply

US companies must comply if they serve European customers.

Or what?

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I deleted all of my comments years ago, but kept my account because of one subreddit. I just looked and all of my posts have been restored. I just downloaded Redact and started deleting again. On edit: I wish I saw the link to the tool you used before I rushed off to check my Reddit account. I'm unimpressed with Redact.

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When I left Reddit I used the tool to change all my comments to "u/Spez is a fucking loser", then once all changed I used it to mass delete, then deleted my account.

I just checked and none of my comments resurfaced. Though maybe my contribution to Reddit was just not important in any useful way.

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They have backups. Even if your old comments and posts stop resurrecting and permanently become invisible to the web, Reddit can do what they please with their backups, including selling them to AI companies. It stops the scrapers, sure, but then Reddit wants the scrapers to stop as well.

GDPR removal requests are worth a try, but they technically only cover personally identifying information, so you'd have to make a strong case that your comments in whole or in part could be tied back to your real self. And they could get around most of the edge cases there if they were to anonymise that information further, such as by disconnecting each of your comments from any commonality.

This is part of the reason I never bothered to delete anything over there. No point closing that stable door. Those horses are long gone.

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It was naïve to believe they'd honour a delete in the first place. Maybe early reddit did, but it would have quickly become apparent that the deleted comments tend to be more interesting ones, so they could hold on to that more interesting data by just setting a "deleted" flag in the db, or maybe moving deleted comments to a different table for optimization reasons.

Same thing with edits. Instead of replacing the old comment with the edited one, just have the edited one be a new comment while the old one is just hidden now.

Can't say I'm surprised that try undid all of that when the intent was to lower reddit's value by removing helpful comments. It wouldn't surprise me if they stop even pretending to go along with edits and deletions. It's out of your hands now and always was from the moment the comment was made.

Same thing with lemmy btw, though through a different mechanism: federation. Anyone can clone all of your activity by just creating a federated instance running custom code that handles deletions and edits differently. I'd be very surprised if no one is already doing this. Federation makes censorship and community control harder but the cost is privacy and control of your own content. The fediverse won't sell out to AI trainers because those entities can just grab the data for free. If there's something you don't want known, the only way to do it is to not post it in the first place. Trying to delete or edit it will probably just mark it as more likely to be interesting.

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god damn, that is dirty. i redacted my comments the same way on different accounts when I was done with them. I'll need to be paying closer attention to them.

gross that they'll just do this. they don't know why I buried my accounts, no consideration if undeleting people's posts is safe for them. Are they doing it so companies training LLM's on reddit have access to more text?

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I just checked mine, my wipe is still complete save for 2 comments I think the tool missed. Around same time, June '23 but later in the month

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Thanks for reminding me, I've been meaning to do this. I'm doing random text edit of them all now. I'll go back later and have it edit my top comments to a nice site-ban-worthy message.

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lemm.ee

I'm glad you made this post. Reddit banned me after some pro-luigi posting after 13 years on the platform.

I checked and all my comments are still there so I should start cleaning them up. No reason they should be able to make money from me anymore

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sh.itjust.works

At least no one's profiting off that. I'm sure most just scrape reddit the same way but they're still trying to charge people.

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lemmy.super.ynh.fr

I believe that useful knowledge should be open and accessible to everyone for any reason (within reason of course, you might want to keep some things private), so I’m against your decision, but in the end you’re the owner of what you create so it’s your decision

You might answer "who asked?" and you would be right haha

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sh.itjust.works

so I’m against your decision

My decision to use Lemmy instead? I've already conceded that it's going to be scraped. You want me to actively line Spez's pockets or something?

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lemmy.super.ynh.fr

My decision to use Lemmy instead?

No. Your decision to remove the content. It mainly harms those who will check the post later

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sh.itjust.works

Lmao I never removed my comments. Too lazy and too many accounts.

Good job with the reading comprehension.

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You’re the one defending the mass deletion of past Reddit content…

The original post was about that at least. It pretty logical to assume you’re talking about the same thing

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If people just started saying nonsense on a bunch of reddit posts, would the bots eventually follow suit?

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lemmy.world

That's what they did. And Reddit restored the original content of the comments, likely from an older backup.

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