Matt Gaetz Shouts That ‘Only Through Force Do We Make Any Change’ While Standing Beside Trump in Iowa
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Yep. They’re starting already. This will not end well and Matt Gaetz should be impeached from office. A sitting member of government should not be calling for violence against said government. They’re getting more bold and dangerous with their statements. By the time Trump loses the next election they’ll be inciting them to war.
Genuinely, don’t bank on them losing. We can’t afford to underestimate the mass appeal of strongman rhetoric. It’s completely fucked. But this exact approach has worked as a precursor to a lot of authoritarian regimes.
We should compare against the 2020 election, not 2016.
Have voters who supported Biden in 2020 switched to supporting Trump in 2024? I think not. If anything, I think recent news may have convinced a few Trump supporters to switch sides (potentially to a third party, which is still a win for Biden).
Still, it's important that people actually get out and vote, because the margins are slim in a few important states. PA and GA come to mind.
Especially not with the FBI still not aligning itself fully with democracy.
The DOJ's been trying to play both sides too
I can't believe people are still trying to defend Garland. That coward should be out doing a job he has the stomach for, like, say, tailoring.
I have never defended him. I'm ashamed of the current DOJ and AG. The state attorneys had way more balls than Garland ever did. And the fact that he'll go after Hunter Biden (for barely anything) to not appear "political" when half our government is Republican seditionists is laughable.
They're getting bold because nothing happens to them.
He should also be in prison for sex trafficking of minors, but I guess that's a different discussion.
He's wealthy and politically connected. Not gonna happen. My country is screwed.
This is what I don’t get. What’s the end game here? Why are people so hell bent on Trump winning? Do these politicians not see the ship sinking? What possible motivation could be keeping these people loyal to him? I’m not talking about the regular constituents but the other republican officials in office? What the hell do they stand to gain here?
It's mass delusion. They're operating primarily on lies and fantasy instead of any reality.
In other words, trying to apply logical reasoning to their perspective is not going to work.
They're at the point of being scooby doo villains, all that's left is for them to say, "And I would have gotten away with it too, if not for you meddling leftists" as they're being arrested for treason.
Because the only other option, losing, means that they're losers and they can't accept that. It's not any more complicated than that.
He who rides the tiger can never dismount.
Because they have made a deal with the devil and throwing in the towel means payment comes due. Thanks to the southern strategy Republicans hitched their proverbial wagon to the Christian extremists (who make up the bulk of the racists the southern strategy is predicated on). Decades of propaganda by the likes of Fox "News", Rush Limbaugh, Tucker Carlson, Alex Jones, and Glenn Beck has left their party deeply mired with conspiracy theorists and people with only a tenuous grasp of reality, and an equal number of grifters and con artists preying on those same vulnerable populations. These people are the backbone of Trumps support and they have for various reasons completely embraced him in some cases even as a literal messiah. The Republican party is already struggling to attract enough voters to continue to win elections without resorting to voter fraud, they literally can not afford to give up a single voter, and turning against Trump at this point would shatter their party.
Trump is an existential threat to the Republican party, but one that perversely they can't publicly attack without inciting the very thing that would destroy them. Like Frakenstein they've created a monster, and now it has turned on them. They're frantically trying to keep its ire focused anywhere but on themselves and just hoping it does more damage to their opponents than it does to them before they can think up some way to contain or kill it.
They want a race war. They want concentration camps and mass killings of anyone they deem a liberal. Reinstate slavery and to hurt a lot of people. That's their in game. It's a playbook written on writing a tidal wave of hate and emotions.
They want freaking Gilead. I used to think that was just wild hyperbole, but good god are these right wing loonies scary.
Terrorists
Not even pretending not to be fascist. Straight out of the playbook.
matt gaetz sold children into sex slavery
I thought he bought them?
Fascist shit.
We finally agree on something. History has shown that pacifism cannot defeat an infestation of conservatism. It must be cured by force.
Also, isn't Matt Gaetz a child molester? Why is he still allowed to walk free and give statements to the press?
What makes you think vigilantilism is a problem with the extreme left?
Just as an example off the top of my head, the murder of Ahmaud Arbery was done by right-wing looneys and defended by the far-right as morally good vigilantilism, leading to the repeal of Georgia's citizens arrest laws (i.e., their laws for legal vigilantilism).
Oh no, the pedophiles don't take us seriously, how sad.
A jury of his peers found Trump guilty of being a rapist, but I have yet to see a single "law and order!!! we have to rely on evidence and juries!!!" Trump follower acknowledge that.
The eXtReMe LeFt!
Fucking piece of shit.
No, I think he prefers teenagers....
Confirmed pedo, just like his buddy Trump.
I'm sure he has said similar things while committing child rape.
Chairman Mao and republicans in 2023.
If the majority of people used force to get what they wanted, it would not be any of the shit that the GOP wanted because they are a minority. The only thing protecting them is that society has accepted to change things through voting instead of violence. Fuck with that at your own peril, dumbass.
It's a little scary that this environment (social media) leads so many to believe that, but it's just not reality. At best conservative ideology is at parity with liberal ideology in the US. At worst, it's actually a slight majority and has been on the rise since 2020. I'd rather we avoid Civil War 2.0 at the risk of actually losing this time.
This is wrong. Public opinion polls on abortion, LGBT rights, climate change, racism, etc. all show healthy majorities in opposition to the Republican party's policies. The word "liberal" doesn't do well because of an aggressive multi-decade marketing campaign trashing it, but liberal values are well supported.
Also the voting rights ast was trashed in 2013
You're forgetting demographics. The elderly is primarily republican, whereas the 40 and under crowd leans heavily democratic.
Most people won't fight unless the battle is outside their door anyway, and the people who want war would probably need to cross state lines to accomplish anything, in which case they would be going up against the national guard and not just a bunch of hippies in hatchbacks.
Whoever starts the war, should it be started, will lose it, 100%. It won't even be a contest.
This has been the line for decades, yet here we are with a large conservative population
Either the age split is wrong, or people become more conservative as they age, repopulating the older demo still voting conservative
While I appreciate the sentiment, I would rather live in a fractured nation than a fascist one. Those who would sacrifice liberty for the sake of security deserve neither.
What? That doesn't make any sense
Traitors gonna trait
Stochastic terrorism
Sedition
Can anyone remind me of Matt Gaetz’s stance on BLM protests? Judging by this affirmation he must’ve loved them right?
So when antifa uses "violence" its bad, right
Why isn't the FBI or the Secret Service paying this clown a visit?
How are they openly trying to incite violence without repercussions?
Pedophiles stick together.
This creepy mouth breather! He has the most punchable face!
He looks like a relative of the demon TV pastor that died a couple of months back
How can he shout anything with a mouth full of Trump's diaper?
Ok, if force is justifiable, I recommend we use force to change Matt gaetz
Just like he forced that girl into being trafficked across state lines.
I couldn't help but hear this when he was speaking
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They could use his head as a battering ram in the first wave.
“Blood alone moves the wheels of history!”
An underrated episode
Salacious Crumb says what?
Isnt he Jabbas horny muppet from from return of the jedi?
Yeppers.
He thinks he is a WH4OK Space Marine Chaplain when reality he is a Chaos Cultist.
Not even Chaos. He's just part of a Genestealer cult.
What are the genestealers? I've heard of them, but I don't know what they do or who they are working for. I assume they are trying to get their hands on space marine geneseed but that's about it.
Genestealers are a type of Tyranid, that as their name implies, attempts to use their enemy's genetics against them. While they technically come in different types, they fulfill two roles: Pre-invasion Infiltration, and later on as shock troops and cannon fodder. They aren't specifically after Space Marine genetics though I'm sure they wouldn't upset if they did get themselves viable samples to integrate into the Tyranid biomass.
Pre-invasion, the infiltrate a populated area, with a combination of chemical agents and what can be surmounted as psionic abilities to obfuscate their clearly alien origin and hide from public view. They target weak minded individuals for brain washing, infecting them with a kind of virus that ensures their offspring are hybrid genestealers, growing the cult and gathering more followers to effectively worship the fullblooded genestealers who direct them in sabotaging the planet's defenses and preparing for the invasion. After a few generations, the cult starts producing more full blooded gene stealers, who spread out and restart the process until the invasion begins, with their followers being totally brainwashed and traitors to their origin,
So in short, you have a large group of people who were already fairly weak willed and probably uneducated, rallying around an alien creature who has brainwashed them into believing the actual loyalists and educated are the ones bowing to outsiders, actively trying to tear down their own government and make an alien invasion easier. Nothing about this is familiar at all. Nope.
Gotcha, thanks!
And if one man stepped up saying "I'm your huckleberry..." Gaetz would shit himself.
https://youtu.be/R8OWNspU_yE
It's an older meme, but it checks out...
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I had thought that the Iowa Caucus losing its first-in-the-nation status would keep these leeches out of the state but now I guess the Fair is their excuse to saddle up the clown car.
It's also how he gets all his girlfriends. Do you think they just let him through the door of the local high school?
They do just let him walk in.
To be fair, that's also the line he uses when discussing how to get into a reluctant high-schooler's pants if they're not impressed by his congressional career.
fucking terrorist criminal coward
Good luck going against the A-10 brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrttttttttsss
Through 'the force.' Gaetz is a prequel memer, come on now.
The people who could be roused by people like this are dumb, out-of-shape pussies, they do not scare me. January 6th was the least intimidating sight to behold, and I'm not trying to sound tough, I'm just highlighting the incompetence in these mouth-breathers.
With enough sheer will they could make short term gains but fascists authoritarianism always fails in the end because it is predicated on the lack of discussion and free thought.