FBI adds LA protester to its ‘Most Wanted’ list for damaging government vehicles
The unidentified demonstrator allegedly threw rocks at law enforcement and damaged government vehicles, the FBI said.
As tense anti-ICE protests in Los Angeles enter their fourth day, federal officers have ramped up law enforcement’s response – and have added one protester to the FBI’s ‘Most Wanted list.’
The unidentified demonstrator has been accused of assaulting a federal officer and damaging government property during Saturday’s protest in Paramount, a city 30 miles south of Los Angeles.
The suspect allegedly threw rocks at law enforcement on Alondra Boulevard around 3:30 p.m. Saturday, “injuring a federal officer and damaging government vehicles,” according to the FBI’s Los Angeles field office. It was not immediately clear whether the officer was injured or the extent of the damage.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/fbi-la-protester-most-wanted-list-b2766571.htmlOpen linkView original on lemmy.world
How about you go fuck yourself instead.
Even if they offer a cash reward, Luigi has taught us they won't pay out
You know, for those people lacking a moral compass
They will always have a loophole to keep you from getting yours.
I'm just hoping they didn't bring their phones. Btw, if you go to a protest, don't bring your smartphone.
Alright..
At least the violence is against the appropriate targets.
Stop discrediting ways of protesting you dont like by making sruff up. The outside agitator trope is a counterinsurgency tactic to sow distrust in resistance movements.
This already happened with the George Floyd protests and in the end no proof was ever shown for this being a relevant factor in any meaningful way.
Step 1. Peaceful protest
Step 2. Police start gunning down protestors
Step 3. "Guys dont escalate, the police might start shooting people"
Step 4. Fascism
I think you know what step you are at
You can't just cherry pick random data points and use those to assert broad claims. How about these guys. Was the Minneapolis precinct burning the action of proud boys?
If anything a majority were the most average of average. If you're gonna keep pushing this narrative at least make sure you get your paycheck from the DHS.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/man-helped-ignite-george-floyd-riots-identified-white/story?id=72051536
You are wrong, people are pissed and are willing to show it. Have you never felt serious about something in your life? He didn't initiate the violence, the raids in his community from masked fascist goon squads started the violence. He is defending the people.
we can help identify the ICE PIGS instead.
How about the cop who decided to pop a (right leaning apparently!) Australian reporter from close range with a rubber bullet, just for shits and giggles?
A British reporter was also shot in the calf
Yup. He required emergency surgery and is still in the hospital
That guy's probably drinking with his bros bragging about what he did. Maybe karma will catch up with him, but it seems like assholes are reigning supreme nowadays.
Our right leaning is more in line with your Dems, though.
Makes me mad, though, seeing that cunt pop one off like that. Bring him down here and he can do a 1v1 fisticuff against our red kangaroo. That'll learn him.
It's a sad day when someone can make the FBl Most Wanted List just by damaging some property and hurting some cop's delicate feelings. There are countless murderers, rapists, pedophiles and human traffickers out there, but this guy makes the list!? He's a priority!?
If everyone is on the most wanted list, then no one is on the most wanted list.
Are they orange, stupid, and obese? If so then maybe they should run for office...
He didn't just make the list, they also labeled him as armed and dangerous.
I mean, he does indeed have arms. Dangerous, not so sure.
Remember, kids: when everything’s a crime, nothing is.
Anarchy with extra steps.
Oh stone throwers go on the most wanted list? We on the fast track to protesters getting bulldozed and opened fire on now.
Why stop at bulldozers?
It's a reference to Rachel Corrie and the countless others that are frequently murdered via bulldozer in Palestine.
Fun story! Caterpillar - the construction equipment company - hired people to spy on Rachel Corrie’s family after her death.
The same FBI that literally just confirmed they wouldn't be investigating Americans belonging to an international neo Nazi militia until they actually commit an act of terrorism, is now putting people that committed vandalism on its "most wanted" list. Priorities.
Neo-Nazi group ‘actively seeking to grow in US’ with planned paramilitary training event
OMG a rock! How horrible! Imagine if Jan 6 happened today.
Dude, I know this guy!!!
He was literally with me, thousands of miles away from this scene. We made ham sandwiches and drank iced tea.
Me, him, and Luigi Mangione have been on the International Space Station since November 2024!
I saw him the other day in Miami. We threw some rocks around because we are such bad boiz
Jesus fucking christ. Most wanted. For disagreeing with the administration and throwing some rocks.
Rewriting history. Replace Jan 6 with this and act like it's the same.
This man got caught up in good trouble. No one knows this guy. And if you think you do, no, you fucking don't.
I know him. He was at my house at the time the alleged incident occurred.
And I saw him there, too.
“Oh yeah! I saw that dude! Someone caught him on camera shooting a reporter from Australia”
That's "most wanted" material? I figured you had to at least kill a few people to qualify for that.
O noes. He threw rocks
Quick shoot him in the face with less than lethal rounds!
FBI must have hired all the murderers and rapists who used to be on the FBI most wanted list.
ICE was lucky it was just rocks.
A lot of gun owners live in LA
That is precisely the intent, they will use that to justify suspending Habeas Corpus and declaring martial law. That is why we have precious little time to prepare and act!
So who's stopping them from declaring martial law anyway?
Violent protester. 75% chance it's an undercover agent of the state.
Damn, turns out the state is the only thing capable of positive change.
Literal conspiracy seems more likely to you than someone responding to violence with violence?
It has been documented to happen, so it's not incredibly outlandish. The regularity with which modern protest movements on the US left attempt to surpress violence to avoid giving an excuse to law enforcement makes it notable when it occurs. Again, far from unheard of, just not part of every instance.
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/police-infiltration-protests-undermines-first-amendment
So while it's probably not the case that it's overwhelmingly likely to be an agent provocateur, it would be unsurprising if it were that, someone there to push for escalation with no police affiliation, or just petty hooliganism. Last of which is significant only that it distinguishes someone who decided to do violence for a principled reason from someone who just wanted to throw rocks at cops.
Yes, ops and peace police exist. Why does that mean that it's impossible for an individual to "do violence for a principled reason"? Is Luigi also an op?
I didn't say that in the slightest, and in fact said the opposite.
It's not a conspiracy theory to think that someone causing trouble came to the protest solely to cause trouble, for whom or why not withstanding.
The first two examples I gave, police and right wing accelerationists, have a political motivation. The third, holligans, are doing what they're doing for it's own sake.
It's obviously possible for someone aligned with the peaceful protestors to decide to throw rocks at cops. Neither I nor anyone else said otherwise.
There's no need to put words in someone's mouth or misrepresent what they're saying.
The point of a protest is to cause trouble anything else is a parade.
The thing we are arguing about isn't "possibility" it's "probability". To be fair, you have not directly stated you beliefs but the parent comment had stated their priors and they are completely divorced from reality.
Wait, you're arguing with me because of what someone else said?
I said agitators aren't a conspiracy theory. You asked why I thought the violence from the protestors was "impossible". I said I didn't think that, and it's obviously possible and now you're upset that I used the word "possible"?
🙄oh, go fuck yourself. If you're getting to that level of nitpicking you aren't actually doing anything but looking for argument, unless you're actually so brain damaged that you think that all nonviolent protest is just "parades". Just in case: in this context, trouble is a word used and understood by native English speakers to mean "undirected violence and destruction perpetrated for it's own sake".
Not upset, and I do think I misread your list of reasons for why someone would be a 'violent protester' as an exhaustive list when you did not mean it as such. My point about priors still stands but you are correct that it is mostly directed at badbytes. What were you trying to communicate with your first comment if not re-enforcing badbytes message?
I appreciate this, however this definition runs opposite to your usage above about how police/accelerationists "came to the protest to cause trouble". Your usage there was to communicate "directed violence perpetrated for political sake".
The word "violence" is a bit murky here and I'm not sure I agree on it's inclusion in the definition of "trouble" however with how obstruction and vandalism are considered "violent" by police I stand by the statement that:
Not op, but that's is based on past events (both that the gov & various departments/agencies literally did that and that American protesters are relatively tame & opposed to violence, again, 'relatively').
So a reasonable guess/question (I take it that the "75%" is there for comedic reasons).
Yes, and if you read further into the actions/tactics of those various departments/agencies you'll discover that propogating the myth of the "outside agitator" is a core part of those tactics.
It's not a reasonable guess, it's propogating propoganda based on half truths.
People like to believe in peaceful protests even if it does jack shit
It prob doesn't even jack any shits.They might jack some shit actually - people reading about it on the toilet getting exposed to the truth & joining in on the movement(s).
Oh guaranteed some significant shits will get jacked. Absolutely.
Given that most of the people arrested for violence during the George Floyd protests turned out to be right winger accelerationists ... It's not exactly a stretch
My dude, they were arresting random people and charging everyone with assault, obstruction, etc. Of the over 14000 people arrested at the end of June 2020 you really believe the majority were right wing accelerationists?
Jacob Fagundo, Timothy O'Donnell, James Massey and Lamar Taylor were all right wing accelerationists?
The random people they picked up had charges dropped after the arrest. I'm talking about the actual convictions.
My dude
Also, learn what the word most means. Finding a could other examples doesn't make me wrong.
You're right, you are the one making bold claims and so the burden of proof is on you. You got any?
Hope that rock you've been living under is comfy. My claims are not bold. They're quite well documented.
AP finds most arrested in protests aren’t leftist radicals
This one burnt down a police precinct during a BLM protest, trying to pin it on them
Boogaloo boys spotted at dozens of BLM protests as aggitators
Did you read your sources? They don't say what you think they do.
In the classic misguided "journalistic neutrality" it does put additional emphasis on the 6 instances of "far-right extremism" a incidence rate of 2.1%. Do you believe that 2.1% is a majority?
He wasn't a lone actor trying to pin it on them, he was participating in an action with them.
Which if you stopped to read for a second you would understand why the boogaloo boys specifically had real skin in the game with the protests against police brutality and why they wear Hawaiian shirts bearing the names of people killed in confrontations with police.
READ BEYOND THE GODDAMN HEADLINES
Oh no! Would somebody please think of the government property.
So now we know, 9/11 and property damage are roughly equivalent in the eyes of the FBI. Makes a weird incentive to be more extreme in protests right? Like, if throwing rocks at a cop car and killing 3000 people plus demolishing the 2 largest buildings in the US and also a bunch of infrastructure and other buildings around it and 2 planes, lands you in the same list...
It's not a joke when you see those spazzed out "schizo" cars with all the weird messages. Those people are getting manipulated by feds. It's called gangstalking. And all the talk of aliens and mind reading shit is produced and spread to make the people gangstalked look crazy. And it works on some people... Fed profile you, and even if you are innocent, they put money and work into making you become the person they think you are. It's literally a business. They get paid and rewarded for it. You are correct...
It was me. I did it from here in Canada. (I have a good throwing arm, but terrible aim. (I was aiming for L.A.))
So does that mean the cops who were busting out their own cruiser windows the other day are also on that list?
Back in early 2000s I was working as an Internet cafe admin, selling services and managing computers on the outskirts of Kyiv.
There was this one customer, a late 30..early 40s dude who showed every now and again. He had two giant mastiff dogs in a regular three room apartment in a typical Soviet 9 story panel building, and a serious hard on the whole FBI, CIA and secret operations thing. Internet was quite new back then and one day he came to me and said that he knows an address of the FBI web page with all the most wanteds listed there. And he was very specific in saying that there was that bearded Muslim Al Quaeda guy, probably Osama bin Laden.
So I wonder, what would he say today? Like, there a most wanted guy who... burned a car?
Didn't America basically manipulate all these terrorists until they became terrorists? Is that not what they are trying to do to this guy? The feds are a business and will do anything for their game.
Kind of off topic but check out Adam Curtis documentaries about governments manipulating.
Our governments are not actually here for peace they are here for control and growth, basically as a business and anyone that gets in the way will be fucked, used and abused. World conquest is still the game being played no matter how much the try to satiate and sedate you with consumerism and escapism of honest reality.
I mean the FBI actually flagged and reported 2 of the 9/11 perpetrators, but the Whitehouse and CIA "failed to act accordingly".
Whether it was ye olde government red tape or willful negligence, we'll never know for sure.
I wonder if the FBI was putting them under a pressure campaign and that pressure helped manifest the 911 attack.
"They" say this is how some mass shootings happen. Feds profile someone and that person mentally breaks and shoots people up and then all the news says about is that the fed had looked at them in the past. Meanwhile the truth might be that the fed pressured them regardless of actual innocence, made them look crazy, then go crazy, and then commit a mass shooting.
FBI is a bunch of clowns chasing after crust punks.
Cripes who’s on the fucking Least Wanted? Crypto torture guy?
Nothing screams "horrible criminal" like property damage against fascists.
It doesn’t look like anything to me…
shooting their own feet by escalating unnecessarily. if you are already on most wanted list, all stops go. What are they going to do, put you on most wanted list?
That looks like President Trump how crazy
Take advantage of these news to learn more about the history of the FBI and who they work for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_FBI_controversies
EDIT: I posted the link before reading through it, people should be aware they might impersonate Press and spy on you..
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Property damage is not violence.
https://youtu.be/O69MTDdhHDk
If the dude can he needs to bug out of LA for a bit, go camping in big bear or some shit.