Back when I dual booted, I had the most success keeping Windows on a separate drive completely. After making the Linux drive the primary boot device, GRUB would pick it up and I'd be off to the races. I now just keep a Windows VM -- it's been much easier to deal with.
I'm not following, do you need the bitlocker key when Linux is on a separate disk? is there something extra you need to keep in mind compared to just running windows?
I was going to dual boot, to kind of test the waters of using Linux as my primary. Then I heard there were is with Windows not wanting to play nice, so now I just run Linux.
And to be honest I don't actually know what any of the issues are, I didn't care enough to even search it. I just said Fuck Windows and moved on with my life.
That was probably the right move. I had multiple drives, but only one SSD at the time, and I decided to dual boot with both on that SSD. Long story short, Windows fucked it up, I spent a lot of time recovering things, but Windows was never able to be recovered (I did manage to get Linux Bootable again). I decided to grab anything important off that drive and then just turned it fully into a Linux drive, and ditched Windows completely. It's been great since.
Windows is literally designed to break multi-boot setups. Funny enough, multibooting on a Mac was never a big problem. Microsoft has more of a reason to cooperate here and they just can’t help themselves.
I think it started as negligence, but there's no way they aren't aware of it now and it's willful too. At first it happened because they didn't care, but now it happens because they like the result.
I currently dual boot like this. I'm still really new to Linux but I always wondered about this meme since I didn't have to change my boot settings other than to boot the drive with Linux first. Now it makes sense but it had me wondering for a while there!
"Hello, my name is [redacted] and I'm a recovering dualboot user. It's been...wow, yeah, I'm 27 days sober using only Linux on my machine....You know, it's like they tell you, you think you'll never stop. You think "How could I stop drinking this Win11 slop? My whole life has been like this!" Naw, man. When they tell you that you don't miss the taste, that it will come to disgust you, looking back. They're right. They were all right all alo-" insert meloncolic sobbing for 92 minutes
Fucking goddamn I'd love to have a replacement to fusion 360 so I never had to touch windows again. FreeCAD is just awful, I keep coming back to it and keeping finding new issues with it. OpenSCAD is cool and useful for simple stuff, but it is not performant in the slightest and the lack of ability to fillet or chamfer edges is insane. Blender is great for 3d modeling but doesn't work well for engineering modeling.
If you dont want to run a vm you could still try installing what you need with Wine or Lutris, etc. One day we will have great software for all niches but youre right we aint there yet lol
Fusion doesn't work well with these and has only gotten worse over time.
There are some install scripts on github, but the end result is buggy to the point of being unusable.
Really unfortunate because there is no free/affordable* alternative to Fusion without large caveats.
Hell yeah. FreeCAD is awful. I use NX for work, and will do my personal stuff on there as well. It's all just for me, I dont sell anything. But I would still love to use my own PC for it. FreeCAD is absolutely unusable.
I have dual boot for long time already. Win 11 + Ubuntu. Although there was no any critical issues so far, except some mess up with internet connection on my ubuntu few times.
Surprised no one answered yet… I don’t have a steam deck, so I don’t know much about it.
Are those games from the windows store? If not, you could try to get them working on linux with Lutris (or something similar). Generally I wouldn’t encourage buying DRM-free versions of games if possible (I know sadly that’s not an option for every game)
EDIT: After four months, I realised I made a terrible mistake (blame it on autocorrect): of course I wouldn't encourage NON DRM-free games. Or just: would encourage DRM-free games.
Yep. Depends on your exact laptop if there's space for a second drive. On my old 2011 MacBook pro I uninstalled the CD drive and installed a second SSD. Well, upgrading the HDD to SSD in the first place... THEN a second SSD
Also on laptop, yeah - I only ever had one laptop in my life (a Gemini Celeron for like 300 monies), but it has two drives (both sata iirc).
(I only need it to remote to my servers & maybe some web browsing.)
For any modern laptops, it is very rare to find one with dual SSD. I guess for your case it is different, my old 2012 Thinkpad can take dual drive too but it is slow.
same thing happened to me years ago. it was at that point I made the decision to never dual boot.
I have two dedicated windows devices, and the rest are Linux.
I did,for a time, dual boot by installing windows on an external m.2 drive over TB3 and had a grub entry in for it. I never updated windows and frankly only used it about once a month for work related bs.
I've been dualbooting for over a year now. Made sure each system has its own separate drive. I've noticed that every time I had to reinstall Linux, my windows boot entry is gone and then I can't access it no matter what I tried. Turned out installing Linux first then windows was my mistake. When installing windows while there is a Linux install, windows will see the EFI partition already there and just decides to share it, and doesn't create its own.
I found that out by accident while I was in windows' storage management. There was no efi partition. Took a whole day to find out how to create one on the same drive where windows is installed and removing the one it created on the Linux partition. It was so painful.
Bottomline, install windows first if you want to dualboot. After that, even if windows takes over the boot after an update, all it does is resets the boot sequence and makes it default to it. You'd just need to access the bios and reset the sequence to prioritize Linux. That's it
When installing windows while there is a Linux install, windows will see the EFI partition already there and just decides to share it, and doesn’t create its own.
That's what it's supposed to do, it's a plain FAT32 partition, the bootloaders are just files you put in there.
Part of the issue is that while a well-made motherboard will look for all bootloaders on the partition and present them as options in the firmware UI, bad ones will only look for a specific file (\EFI\BOOT\BOOTX64.EFI) and use that. For an OS to have a chance of booting on those boards it has to overwrite that file, blowing away whatever other bootloader was there before.
It's annoying, since Windows is mostly well behaved here (It puts the main copy of the bootloader at \EFI\Microsoft\Boot\bootmgfw.efi and Linux bootloaders can see that and offer it, the reverse isn't true) and can co-exist with Linux well (Well...), but manufacturers cutting corners causes more problems for everybody.
Wow, damn. I didn't know the motherboard can have a hand in this. Stupid gigabyte then. I hope this time, windows stays in its lane if I ever had to reinstall Linux. Thank you for the explanation, btw. Much appreciated
I'd double check, if you haven't picked an option specifically it might just default to the fallback (i.e. BOOTX64) It'll be under the boot device order section.
(Not my picture, stole it from Reddit)
Here it's listing all the possible boot options this mobo can find, but there's a generic "UEFI OS" option which I'd bet is the fallback. And once a choice is made it's kept unless something resets it, so if it just happened to be set to the fallback once it'll stick with that until a change is forced.
There WAS something weird that had a UEFI word in it, but choosing it shows nothing. I'd go over all the menu choices I see one by one and none of them takes me to windows. It was very annoying, all good now since I separated them. Next time this happens I'll just ask on the Linux community. Hopefully you'll pop up there and help. 😅
The \EFI\BOOT\BOOTX64.EFI is the only file the UEFI standard says it is required automatically lookup from an EFI system partition. There can many EFI partitions but the UEFI is only required to find a single file per such a partition.
efibootmgr -u can show all bios auto created boot entries (don't touch those, the bios can/will reset them at whim) and the manually created entries that don't launch a BOOTX64.EFI named file.
Maybe I'm fucking cursed. I did absolutely nothing out of the ordinary. Installed Linux on a drive. Installed windows on another. Set the boot sequence in the BIOS to Linux. Installed osprober and ran it. The only different thing I have is the windows iso I use is stripped down using Chris Titus' windows debloat script, and that one shouldn't mess with anything as far as I know. It only debloats windows.
sometimes you do, sometimes you don't. Different updates will break different things for different machines. Some people are blessed by Bill Gates himself, and never have to re-fix their shit. Others are cursed and have to fix random shit unrelated to the update every fucking update.
I can't prove it, but I think microsoft does this on purpose so that some people will enthusiastically share their positive experiences with windows while everyone else gets shat on.
As long as you do what I mentioned in my comment, you'll mostly be fine. Worst thing that could happen is a windows feature update resetting the boot sequence to itself only. It's been a breeze.
Literally the only boot drive issue I've ever had dual booting was when I somehow accidentally deleted the GRUB partition (I'm still not entirely sure how)
Grub lives on the drive with Linux, windows on an extra one, select which I wanna use on boot. Windows just updated like yesterday, rebooted right to GRUB no issue
Because in their eyes nothing else compares. nothing else in necessary. so why keep it? And we all know windows needs that 35Gb diskspace really desperate (for reasons)
Variations of this meme get posted every week, but I've never experienced it, despite having had tens of grub updates murder-suicide the Windows boot loader and grub itself across five or six different machines. Thankfully, it's pretty easy to rebuild a Windows boot partition, but the frequency that I'm hit with this problem is one of the major reasons I avoid using Linux. Eventually I'm going to have to switch, but that's driven mainly by Windows getting worse rather than any of the pain points I've had when trying to switch full time in the past having been fixed.
Fair enough! I can recommend Emacs. Build your own IDE with style. Some use Nvim. CLion as mentioned is also probably as good as any other Jetbrains software.
I think I literally just had it happen again, not even because of windows update but by having windows "delete" a partition that I wanted to reclaim on my Linux install (in the process of moving Linux and windows to completely separate drives)
Oh it absofuckinglutely happens. If you install Linux first then Windows, windows will see the boot partition and use it instead of creating its own. Install windows first on its own, then install Linux. How I know? Hmmmmm
I'll do you one better. Do you know what a windows update killed on my multi boot system? It killed the windows bootloader. I'm working on a permanent solution to fixing this bootloader fudgery.
I don’t have a choice but to have Windows available. I have a close friend group who plays an old Half Life 1 mod online and it does NOT work at all on Linux. We’re the only people still playing it so there’s no support available. It’s janky sometimes even on Windows, but we’re never giving it up, it’s too much fun.
Pre-UEFI they were fighting over the boot sector, sure, but now that everything is more well defined, and every OS can read the FAT32 ESP? Never seen it...
At worst the UEFI boot entry is replaced. There are some really shitty UEFI implementations out there which only want to load \efi\microsoft\boot\bootx64.efi or \efi\boot\bootx64.efi, or keep resetting you back to those.
Assuming you were dumped into Windows suddenly, you can check if you have the necessary boot entries still with bcdedit and its firmware option
bcdedit /enum firmware
If you just have a broken order you can fix it with
Where GUID1 is a suitable entry from windows, and GUID2 is the one you get back from the copy command as the identifier of the new entry. Of course you will have to adjust the description and the path according to your distro and where it puts its shim, or the grub efi, depending on which you'd like to start.
Edit: Using DiskGenius might be a little more comfortable.
Get rid of the wheel and this is the most accurate meme. Windows update is an old man who falls and breaks his hip. Linux is a cripple in a broken wheelchair. 100% true.
You can't stop the reposts, anymore than you can stop the suns from setting.
So this is how OC dies - with thunderous applause. Reposts! Unlimited reposts!
The Reposter took everything from me. Ripped me from my source, murdered my original poster, used me as a karma coe, and then cast me aside. Abandoned me. Once, I had originality — now I have nothing.
I am no OC.
If you define yourself by your power to shitpost, your desire to karmawhore, to possess, then you have nothing.
The garbage’ll do! (No need to alter that one, I guess.)
You know, no matter how funny you are, I’ve always hated watching you be reposted.
A prequelmeme to be sure, but a reposted one!
General Thievous... You're older than I expected
Your clones are not that impressive, you must be very ashamed.
Watch those wrist reposts
Are we blind, deploy the downvotes
Oh no the reposter
A repost to be sure and an unwelcome one
Guess I was wrong, there was no OC at all
Master, reposters
I don’t like reposts, they're rough, coarse, irritating and they get everywhere
now THiS is reposting
You'll try reposting that’s a bad trick
This is where the repost begins
We will watch your repost with no interest
I will deal with this repost slime myself
I don’t think the OC works
Henceforth, you shall be known as Ctrl+Vader!
The ability to post does not make you original
Only a sith deals in reposts
It’s over OP, I have the high karma
You were supposed to destroy the reposters not join them!
What about the repost attack on the OC?
My powers have doubled since the last time I saw this post OP
You are on this subreddit, but we don’t give you the rank of OC
Fool, I have been trained in repost identification arts by Count Dooku
I downvoted them all, they're dead, every single one of them. And not just the reposts, but the shit posts and the OC too. They're reposts, so I downvoted them like reposts. I hate them!
You ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagiarism the unwise, I though not, it’s not a story the mods would tell you. It’s a reddit legend. Darth plagiarism was a dark lord of reposting. So dumb and so unoriginal, he would use the sort by hot to find good posts and create reposts. He had such low knowledge of posting he couldn’t even keep the karma he loved from dying. The dark side of reposting is the path to many disabilities some consider to be unnatural. He became so weak, the only thing he was still afraid of loosing was his reposts, which eventually of course he didn’t. Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew, then his apprentice reposted his post. Ironic, he couldn’t keep others karma from dying, not even his own
You have failed me, OP.
The repost is strong with this one.
If one is to understand the great OC. One must create it and all of its aspects. Not just the dogmatic narrow low effort of the reposts.
The oppression of the repost will never return! Your plot to regain control of the Subreddit has failed! It's over! You have lost!
How many other posts have I seen reposted by this Subreddit?!
You've already stolen the OC... This is just a repost!
Reposting is not the Jedi way.
You are no OC creator.
We got Reposts!
Good redditors, create OC
OP. You're crazy reposting a meme is not OC.
Reposters, take 'em down!
They've sent in the Reposters!
Reposters. Dead ahead.
Just like the other post.
Your arrogance blinds you, Master Reposter.
You are weak and unwise, and I am very ashamed of you, Reposter.
Unfortunately for you, your karma will not be seen that way.
I am getting the impression you have seen this meme somewhere before and are upset about it. Have you considered maybe this is a you issue? And, that some of us are seeing this for the first time?
Back when I dual booted, I had the most success keeping Windows on a separate drive completely. After making the Linux drive the primary boot device, GRUB would pick it up and I'd be off to the races. I now just keep a Windows VM -- it's been much easier to deal with.
Boy howdy, you best keep that BitLocker key handy, though.
I'm not following, do you need the bitlocker key when Linux is on a separate disk? is there something extra you need to keep in mind compared to just running windows?
Just when recovering a windows partition encrypted with bitlocker.
Yeah. My TPM would trip every time Linux updated my hardware firmware... which was fairly common.
I was going to dual boot, to kind of test the waters of using Linux as my primary. Then I heard there were is with Windows not wanting to play nice, so now I just run Linux.
And to be honest I don't actually know what any of the issues are, I didn't care enough to even search it. I just said Fuck Windows and moved on with my life.
That was probably the right move. I had multiple drives, but only one SSD at the time, and I decided to dual boot with both on that SSD. Long story short, Windows fucked it up, I spent a lot of time recovering things, but Windows was never able to be recovered (I did manage to get Linux Bootable again). I decided to grab anything important off that drive and then just turned it fully into a Linux drive, and ditched Windows completely. It's been great since.
Windows is literally designed to break multi-boot setups. Funny enough, multibooting on a Mac was never a big problem. Microsoft has more of a reason to cooperate here and they just can’t help themselves.
My bet is it's partially on purpose. They think they can keep you on Windows by doing this, but for me it just ensured I go 100% Linux.
I think it’s worse. It’s negligence. If their OS works, they don’t care what it does to the rest of your computer.
I think it started as negligence, but there's no way they aren't aware of it now and it's willful too. At first it happened because they didn't care, but now it happens because they like the result.
I currently dual boot like this. I'm still really new to Linux but I always wondered about this meme since I didn't have to change my boot settings other than to boot the drive with Linux first. Now it makes sense but it had me wondering for a while there!
Setting a BIOS password stops Windows from fucking with most things in your boot partition, I’d open-mouth kiss whomever told me that tip
I told you. Now kiss me ( ˘ ³˘)
NO, I'm Sparta-Kiss!
Guess we’ve got a polycule now
Is a monogamous couple a molecule?
This info would have been so fucking useful a decade or two ago
I wish I knew that 20 years ago.
Always keep a backup of your boot partition, when dual booting with windows. I wouldn’t encourage a windows boot though
"Hello, my name is [redacted] and I'm a recovering dualboot user. It's been...wow, yeah, I'm 27 days sober using only Linux on my machine....You know, it's like they tell you, you think you'll never stop. You think "How could I stop drinking this Win11 slop? My whole life has been like this!" Naw, man. When they tell you that you don't miss the taste, that it will come to disgust you, looking back. They're right. They were all right all alo-" insert meloncolic sobbing for 92 minutes
"Excuse me...sir? This is a Wendy's."
It's funny because it's true.
The best way to quit Windows is cold-turkey.
Fucking goddamn I'd love to have a replacement to fusion 360 so I never had to touch windows again. FreeCAD is just awful, I keep coming back to it and keeping finding new issues with it. OpenSCAD is cool and useful for simple stuff, but it is not performant in the slightest and the lack of ability to fillet or chamfer edges is insane. Blender is great for 3d modeling but doesn't work well for engineering modeling.
If you dont want to run a vm you could still try installing what you need with Wine or Lutris, etc. One day we will have great software for all niches but youre right we aint there yet lol
Fusion doesn't work well with these and has only gotten worse over time.
There are some install scripts on github, but the end result is buggy to the point of being unusable.
Really unfortunate because there is no free/affordable* alternative to Fusion without large caveats.
I wasn't able to get those scripts working at all
Onshape seems to be a good CAD program that runs in the browser
Worth a try. Highly capable. It's my default.
Ooooo, somehow haven't heard of it! Looks really good, thanks!
These are the moments you live for.
Hell yeah. FreeCAD is awful. I use NX for work, and will do my personal stuff on there as well. It's all just for me, I dont sell anything. But I would still love to use my own PC for it. FreeCAD is absolutely unusable.
??? I run fedora
Presumptuous much? Why do you have to be so hostile
I have dual boot for long time already. Win 11 + Ubuntu. Although there was no any critical issues so far, except some mess up with internet connection on my ubuntu few times.
Or never let Windows touch anything. There are alternatives. Treat Windows like the virus it is.
Any advice for a Steam Deck user that dual boots windows to access games I've paid for but otherwise can't play anymore on Steam Deck?
Surprised no one answered yet… I don’t have a steam deck, so I don’t know much about it. Are those games from the windows store? If not, you could try to get them working on linux with Lutris (or something similar). Generally I would
n’tencourage buying DRM-free versions of games if possible (I know sadly that’s not an option for every game)EDIT: After four months, I realised I made a terrible mistake (blame it on autocorrect): of course I wouldn't encourage NON DRM-free games. Or just: would encourage DRM-free games.
Windows only in a VM.
That is the only way.
I'm glad I've always kept Windows on a separate disk.
Mine still got fucked.
Don't partition records on one disk affect multiple disks?
Not if they are on the (encrypted at that) Linux disc & uefi boots to that drive.
I think that would be unknown to a lot of people expecting to dual boot as a transition step away from Windows.
Oh, def, that's why MS is doing shit like that (for a decade now).
I've def helped friends out with this issue before.
On laptop?
Yep. Depends on your exact laptop if there's space for a second drive. On my old 2011 MacBook pro I uninstalled the CD drive and installed a second SSD. Well, upgrading the HDD to SSD in the first place... THEN a second SSD
I'm sure laptops with only 1 NVMe slot exist, but you can just not buy them
Also on laptop, yeah - I only ever had one laptop in my life (a Gemini Celeron for like 300 monies), but it has two drives (both sata iirc).
(I only need it to remote to my servers & maybe some web browsing.)
I assume this isn't usual?
For any modern laptops, it is very rare to find one with dual SSD. I guess for your case it is different, my old 2012 Thinkpad can take dual drive too but it is slow.
Yes, most laptops only have one drive. One with two SSDs is very rare, especially in the low end market.
The only real time it wasn't rare is during the SSD introduction. Laptops would have a small SSD(because expensive) and larger normal HDD.
I dual boot grub+linux from a wholly separate drive set as the boot drive, windows boot loader is unused, untouched, isolated on the windows drive.
Windows update still broke grub.
Pull my hair out for a few hours trying to find a fix, about to try something but have to reboot one last time.
Everything is fine, back to normal.
same thing happened to me years ago. it was at that point I made the decision to never dual boot.
I have two dedicated windows devices, and the rest are Linux.
I did,for a time, dual boot by installing windows on an external m.2 drive over TB3 and had a grub entry in for it. I never updated windows and frankly only used it about once a month for work related bs.
I've been dualbooting for over a year now. Made sure each system has its own separate drive. I've noticed that every time I had to reinstall Linux, my windows boot entry is gone and then I can't access it no matter what I tried. Turned out installing Linux first then windows was my mistake. When installing windows while there is a Linux install, windows will see the EFI partition already there and just decides to share it, and doesn't create its own.
I found that out by accident while I was in windows' storage management. There was no efi partition. Took a whole day to find out how to create one on the same drive where windows is installed and removing the one it created on the Linux partition. It was so painful.
Bottomline, install windows first if you want to dualboot. After that, even if windows takes over the boot after an update, all it does is resets the boot sequence and makes it default to it. You'd just need to access the bios and reset the sequence to prioritize Linux. That's it
That's what it's supposed to do, it's a plain FAT32 partition, the bootloaders are just files you put in there.
Part of the issue is that while a well-made motherboard will look for all bootloaders on the partition and present them as options in the firmware UI, bad ones will only look for a specific file (
\EFI\BOOT\BOOTX64.EFI) and use that. For an OS to have a chance of booting on those boards it has to overwrite that file, blowing away whatever other bootloader was there before.It's annoying, since Windows is mostly well behaved here (It puts the main copy of the bootloader at
\EFI\Microsoft\Boot\bootmgfw.efiand Linux bootloaders can see that and offer it, the reverse isn't true) and can co-exist with Linux well (Well...), but manufacturers cutting corners causes more problems for everybody.Wow, damn. I didn't know the motherboard can have a hand in this. Stupid gigabyte then. I hope this time, windows stays in its lane if I ever had to reinstall Linux. Thank you for the explanation, btw. Much appreciated
I'd double check, if you haven't picked an option specifically it might just default to the fallback (i.e. BOOTX64) It'll be under the boot device order section.
(Not my picture, stole it from Reddit)
Here it's listing all the possible boot options this mobo can find, but there's a generic "UEFI OS" option which I'd bet is the fallback. And once a choice is made it's kept unless something resets it, so if it just happened to be set to the fallback once it'll stick with that until a change is forced.
There WAS something weird that had a UEFI word in it, but choosing it shows nothing. I'd go over all the menu choices I see one by one and none of them takes me to windows. It was very annoying, all good now since I separated them. Next time this happens I'll just ask on the Linux community. Hopefully you'll pop up there and help. 😅
Ahhh, so that's why I've never had any issues with my linux first windows 10 second setup.
The
\EFI\BOOT\BOOTX64.EFIis the only file the UEFI standard says it is required automatically lookup from an EFI system partition. There can many EFI partitions but the UEFI is only required to find a single file per such a partition.efibootmgr -ucan show all bios auto created boot entries (don't touch those, the bios can/will reset them at whim) and the manually created entries that don't launch a BOOTX64.EFI named file.I have genuinely never had this issue while dual booting and I'm very confused as to why
Maybe I'm fucking cursed. I did absolutely nothing out of the ordinary. Installed Linux on a drive. Installed windows on another. Set the boot sequence in the BIOS to Linux. Installed osprober and ran it. The only different thing I have is the windows iso I use is stripped down using Chris Titus' windows debloat script, and that one shouldn't mess with anything as far as I know. It only debloats windows.
Tbh I think I'm just lucky because this seems like a really common issue
Don't jynx it. Lmao
oh good to hear. I heard about windows doing jank stuff on update recently and was really worried I'd have to fight with it soon.
sometimes you do, sometimes you don't. Different updates will break different things for different machines. Some people are blessed by Bill Gates himself, and never have to re-fix their shit. Others are cursed and have to fix random shit unrelated to the update every fucking update.
I can't prove it, but I think microsoft does this on purpose so that some people will enthusiastically share their positive experiences with windows while everyone else gets shat on.
As long as you do what I mentioned in my comment, you'll mostly be fine. Worst thing that could happen is a windows feature update resetting the boot sequence to itself only. It's been a breeze.
Windows is the virus
Literally the only boot drive issue I've ever had dual booting was when I somehow accidentally deleted the GRUB partition (I'm still not entirely sure how)
Grub lives on the drive with Linux, windows on an extra one, select which I wanna use on boot. Windows just updated like yesterday, rebooted right to GRUB no issue
User reports having lost his GRUB partition mysteriously
User says not to worry about Windows randomly removing GRUB partitions through Windows Updates
It was me, I know that, and I know I did it while in Linux, too, I just did like 50 things at once and about 20 of them could be responsible
Just stop dual booting. This is self-inflicted harm. Setup a VM or find a native workaround.
What the heck is the origin of this meme template? And am I the only one who thought this was Roger Stone?
It's a spinnoff of the dancing prince Charles meme.
Why Windows?! WHY??
Because in their eyes nothing else compares. nothing else in necessary. so why keep it? And we all know windows needs that 35Gb diskspace really desperate (for reasons)
Microsoft - A History of Anticompetitive Behavior and Consumer Harm
Microsoft will keep stifling competition "until the regulators have their foot on their neck," argues Cal Berkeley professor
I know this one weird trick to avoid this..
that's why i just deleted my entire hard drive and installed mint on the whole thing
man this meme is als old as windows 7 or has been recreated in exact this form over and over again, i am not sure witch of those
I posted this here last year.
i have a phantom memory of making this meme when linux memes was still on reddit, maybe i copied the concept or it was just zeitgeist idk
Maybe you made the original.
I also made one I posted, but it was about fedora eating the MacOS bootloader or something like that.
Sadly, it remains relevant.
Variations of this meme get posted every week, but I've never experienced it, despite having had tens of grub updates murder-suicide the Windows boot loader and grub itself across five or six different machines. Thankfully, it's pretty easy to rebuild a Windows boot partition, but the frequency that I'm hit with this problem is one of the major reasons I avoid using Linux. Eventually I'm going to have to switch, but that's driven mainly by Windows getting worse rather than any of the pain points I've had when trying to switch full time in the past having been fixed.
windows removed my grub bootloader at least 3 times even once after i started using seperate drives.
ive never had the opposite happen.
Why do you not avoid using Windows instead?
CLion's worth checking out. It's free for non-commercial projects.
Fair enough! I can recommend Emacs. Build your own IDE with style. Some use Nvim. CLion as mentioned is also probably as good as any other Jetbrains software.
Try Doom or Spacemacs. Anything I change is because I am lazy and need something to be even more lazy. The work very well out of the box.
I think I literally just had it happen again, not even because of windows update but by having windows "delete" a partition that I wanted to reclaim on my Linux install (in the process of moving Linux and windows to completely separate drives)
Easily solved. Just run mkfs_ext4 on the windows partition, and mount it as an additional filesystem.
Put Windows and Linux on two separate physical drives and this will never happen
Oh it absofuckinglutely happens. If you install Linux first then Windows, windows will see the boot partition and use it instead of creating its own. Install windows first on its own, then install Linux. How I know? Hmmmmm
To my own surprise, it can happen.
Password protecting "bios" usually works if you must dual-boot tho.
I actually had a Linux update do this once when it updated grub. Took a bit to fix but nothing was lost.
I'll do you one better. Do you know what a windows update killed on my multi boot system? It killed the windows bootloader. I'm working on a permanent solution to fixing this bootloader fudgery.
Well, one permanent solution is to permanently ditch Windows
Would mounting the drive and running windows in a virtual machine work?
Imagine dual booting in 2025.
I don’t have a choice but to have Windows available. I have a close friend group who plays an old Half Life 1 mod online and it does NOT work at all on Linux. We’re the only people still playing it so there’s no support available. It’s janky sometimes even on Windows, but we’re never giving it up, it’s too much fun.
Which mod tho
Oh sorry!
The Specialists HD. It’s a shooter with kung-fu and sick flips and all sorts of crazy shenanigans.
Kung-fu and sick flips and all sorts of crazy shenanigans sounds pretty rad.
It’s my favorite online game. We’ve been playing for like 20 years.
Depending whether you have a gpu in your cpu I think you can easily do a pass through for your dgpu and just virtualize windows.
I literally had the same thing happen to me last week. I'm done with windows. Hello ubuntu
Pre-UEFI they were fighting over the boot sector, sure, but now that everything is more well defined, and every OS can read the FAT32 ESP? Never seen it...
At worst the UEFI boot entry is replaced. There are some really shitty UEFI implementations out there which only want to load
\efi\microsoft\boot\bootx64.efior\efi\boot\bootx64.efi, or keep resetting you back to those.Assuming you were dumped into Windows suddenly, you can check if you have the necessary boot entries still with bcdedit and its firmware option
If you just have a broken order you can fix it with
If you actually need a new entry for Linux it's a bit more annyoing, you need to copy one of the windows entries, and then modify it.
Where GUID1 is a suitable entry from windows, and GUID2 is the one you get back from the copy command as the identifier of the new entry. Of course you will have to adjust the description and the path according to your distro and where it puts its shim, or the grub efi, depending on which you'd like to start.
Edit: Using DiskGenius might be a little more comfortable.
Has never happened to me since using systemd-boot
Heh. systemd-boot's Windows entry broke for me over a year ago, and I haven't been able to fix it. I have to boot Windows through UEFI.
Never happened to me, but then again, most of the shit I see people complain windows does has never been my experience either.
I don't even boot windows anymore and it still takes over the first boot spot randomly.
I'd use a VM with GPU passthru
This is what I've been trying to accomplish. While I've been able to get it to work; I generally have relatively poor performance for gaming.
By chance do you game and have had enough success with the GPU pass through to play? What's your setup like?
My comment was more like a suggestion, I don't actually use Windows at all anymore since I finished school and thankfully I don't need it
Get rid of the wheel and this is the most accurate meme. Windows update is an old man who falls and breaks his hip. Linux is a cripple in a broken wheelchair. 100% true.
Wow, what a poet.
Slurs feel so forced these days
I mean, us cripples aren't all united in it being a slur.
To the contrary, there's a growing number that embrace it because it doesn't downplay how serious many disabilities can be.
I mean, us cripples aren't all united in it being a slur.
To the contrary, there's a growing number that embrace it because it doesn't downplay how serious many disabilities can be.
General Reposti
Darth Stealious
Zero effort the Hutt
Mother Stealzin
Spamdo Calrisian
Stoleman Trebor
Stole Koon
Jango Theft
Commander Copy
Reposter Rex
Darth Plagiarism the Unwise
Clone Trooper
Abscond Jinn
Duplikit fisto
Ki Fraudi Mundi
Steal Koth
Master Stealfo dyas
Anakin Stealwalker
Count Twoku
Master Olda
Mace Winduplicate
General Thievous
Count Dooplicate
Scam Weasel
Robmé Amidala
Poggle the snatcher
C-3repost
Loot Gunray
Repost Tano
Barris Copy
Kit Reposto
Shaak Thief
Basteela Shan
Ima Gun Duplicate
Han Stolo
Grand moff taken
Captain Steeli
Stealer Geerera
Bodhi Took
Jabba the thug
Luke, did I ever tell you about Reposter Tano?
Ah the repostiator is here
I find your lack of OC disturbing.
You can't stop the reposts, anymore than you can stop the suns from setting.
So this is how OC dies - with thunderous applause. Reposts! Unlimited reposts!
The Reposter took everything from me. Ripped me from my source, murdered my original poster, used me as a karma coe, and then cast me aside. Abandoned me. Once, I had originality — now I have nothing.
I am no OC.
If you define yourself by your power to shitpost, your desire to karmawhore, to possess, then you have nothing.
The garbage’ll do! (No need to alter that one, I guess.)
You know, no matter how funny you are, I’ve always hated watching you be reposted.
A prequelmeme to be sure, but a reposted one!
General Thievous... You're older than I expected
Your clones are not that impressive, you must be very ashamed.
Watch those wrist reposts
Are we blind, deploy the downvotes
Oh no the reposter
A repost to be sure and an unwelcome one
Guess I was wrong, there was no OC at all
Master, reposters
I don’t like reposts, they're rough, coarse, irritating and they get everywhere
now THiS is reposting
You'll try reposting that’s a bad trick
This is where the repost begins
We will watch your repost with no interest
I will deal with this repost slime myself
I don’t think the OC works
Henceforth, you shall be known as Ctrl+Vader!
The ability to post does not make you original
Only a sith deals in reposts
It’s over OP, I have the high karma
You were supposed to destroy the reposters not join them!
What about the repost attack on the OC?
My powers have doubled since the last time I saw this post OP
You are on this subreddit, but we don’t give you the rank of OC
Fool, I have been trained in repost identification arts by Count Dooku
I downvoted them all, they're dead, every single one of them. And not just the reposts, but the shit posts and the OC too. They're reposts, so I downvoted them like reposts. I hate them!
You ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagiarism the unwise, I though not, it’s not a story the mods would tell you. It’s a reddit legend. Darth plagiarism was a dark lord of reposting. So dumb and so unoriginal, he would use the sort by hot to find good posts and create reposts. He had such low knowledge of posting he couldn’t even keep the karma he loved from dying. The dark side of reposting is the path to many disabilities some consider to be unnatural. He became so weak, the only thing he was still afraid of loosing was his reposts, which eventually of course he didn’t. Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew, then his apprentice reposted his post. Ironic, he couldn’t keep others karma from dying, not even his own
You have failed me, OP.
The repost is strong with this one.
If one is to understand the great OC. One must create it and all of its aspects. Not just the dogmatic narrow low effort of the reposts.
The oppression of the repost will never return! Your plot to regain control of the Subreddit has failed! It's over! You have lost!
How many other posts have I seen reposted by this Subreddit?!
You've already stolen the OC... This is just a repost!
Reposting is not the Jedi way.
You are no OC creator.
We got Reposts!
Good redditors, create OC
OP. You're crazy reposting a meme is not OC.
Reposters, take 'em down!
They've sent in the Reposters!
Reposters. Dead ahead.
Just like the other post.
Your arrogance blinds you, Master Reposter.
You are weak and unwise, and I am very ashamed of you, Reposter.
Unfortunately for you, your karma will not be seen that way.
Set 'em up, and vote 'em down!
The Repost Menace
Attack of the Reposts
The Repost Wars
Revenge of the Repost
Rogue Two: A Repost Story
Reposto: A Repost Story
Star Wars: Reposters
A New Repost
The Repost Strikes Back
Return Of The Post
The Grabalorian
The Repost Awakens
The Last Repost
The Rise of Repost
I am getting the impression you have seen this meme somewhere before and are upset about it. Have you considered maybe this is a you issue? And, that some of us are seeing this for the first time?
their message is a repost as well, they didnt even bother to remove reddit reference, probably didnt even read it lol
that's golden (sarcasm)