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A picture of Lara Croft in new Tomb Raider hand in hand with Lara Croft from the old Tomb raider Series. The new one labeled GNOME and the old one KDE.
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A picture of Lara Croft in new Tomb Raider hand in hand with Lara Croft from the old Tomb raider Series. The new one labeled GNOME and the old one KDE.
Used i3 for years, tried bspwm. Liked the concept - absolutely loathed the community. Ended on herbstluftwm.
If Wayland ever fixes hdpi scaling, I'll be looking for something that works the same way: configuration is entirely through scripting, not config files. I don't think I'll ever give that up, now that I've discovered it.
It looks like hyprland uses config files, right?
And other memes made by people who have never used KDE.
Gnome and KDE are equally good.
Imo they are both solid technologically, but KDE delivers much more with it's defaults. Obviously you can theme both to hell and back and make them look however you want and get whatever functionality you want, but default KDE is so much more usable than default gnome it's not even a competition.
Is it? Gnome loads in a ton of services and feels pretty bloated to me. I don't notice that it's any lighter than KDE, and it often feels more sluggish.
But, they're both desktops and are loading in a bunch of stuff whether you use it or not, so you're right that they're pretty comparable.
Gnome is bloated. It needs seconds just to oprn start menu/app switcher/or something like that on my low end laptop.. :/
It also uses more ram at iddle.
Gnome consume more power. Gnome better for PC
Bro offered a truce, why not take it?
Plasma and GNOME both have legitimate uses, no one is objectively better than the other.
First, I wasn't the person "bro" responded to.
Second, they said Gnome works fine and KDE is bloated by default, implying Gnome isn't bloated. Which it certainly is, which I said.
A person can't just say, "you're ugly as fuck, but let's just agree to disagree" and have it be a truce.
Plasma itself isn't bloated, it is only bloated if you install the entire suite of KDE applications. Installing plasma by itself doesn't require that many dependencies.
GNOME has a similar level of optionals for their desktop environment as well, you're just expected to actually INSTALL them.
I wasn't saying you were saying that, just adding to the point! Sorry for the confusion.
KDE uses less RAM, you can fact check quite easily.
Depending on the distro it ships with more or less stuff, but a few games, an office suite, media players for audio/video and in some cases a partition manager, are all necessary tools in any setup, at least in my book.
I don't see the bloat.
That would be way more accurate with KDE on the left and XFCE on the right. GNOME is completely different (and also, hands down, very ugly) out of the box.
i think is reversed... but it's ok
Have you ever used either?
To say they're reversed is pushing it as I'm not sure gnome is at the level of the low poly lara yet
I used Gnome for years and can honestly say that if you put a lot of effort into it, mess with configs, and install a few extras, it rises to a new level of kind of shitty but usable.
Fuck, KDE was pretty a decade ago, and Gnome is still just plugging away, being the bare minimum.
I honestly donβt really see it, I think vanilla GNOME looks amazing, while KDE Plasma just screams Windows 7 to me.
Having said it that, both are great DEβs with vastly different approaches. So these can definitely just co exist, while we can both agree that both DEβs are great for different people and workflows.
One thing I'll give gnome, it's really good for 2-in-1s. The desktop metaphor works really well for tablet and trackpad use out of the box.
I like the template but the KDE GUI is simply beautiful, and looks very modern, so this is not really a real thing
Everyone here is super salty, meanwhile I just thought this was suggesting that GNOME is like a rounder KDE
Used both. Dislike both. Now on i3.
Same, but I ended on Hyprland
Arch btw?
EndeavourOS, formerly pure Arch btw.
The idea that kde looks bad is laughable... Kde user here lol.
Pure terminal, GUI is for noobs π€£
Ill choose those triangle titties anytime
KDE feels like Windows to me. GNOME is something entirely different, it's UI is very touch friendly, only downside is it has old code all over the place.
Out of the box, maybe, but kde is super customizable to be how you want it. I think gnome can do that too, but it feels much more opinionated and all I ready about is install scripts that break. (I havenβt tried gnome in years though)
Yep, I love how quickly I can turn a new install into a fugly mess with no way back to sanity
You can customise KDE plasma a lot. I think you can do that with gnome as well but it's harder as far as I know.
As a KDE guy, indeed gnome is much more polished when it comes to gestures.
Problem is, I'm also much more of a keyboard guy, and use my laptop mostly docked and with external keyboard/mouse/monitor.
Touchpad is out of reach most of the time, so I don't really care about gestures.
Wat? Not sure what is the creator smoking buthe/she should seek help.
Gnome has felt a lot like the Fisher Price DE lately
I feel like this is used either by someone who hasn't used KDE in a decade or has been using Linux (Ubuntu) for less than a year.
The worst thing you can say about KDE is that the default configuration is pretty basic. However, that's arguably a good thing because that format is straight up better for productivity.
KDE has also embraced user choice. Not only do they design the desktop and applications to be much more configurable than GNOME. A power user can customize KDE in a way that seems to personally offend GNOME developers. In addition, KDE 5 designed their libraries in a way that other DEs can leverage them while still doing their own thing. I haven't kept up, but at one point that was a huge boon to LxQT development.
Above all else, the KDE team seems a lot more reasonable than the GNOME team. Over the past decade, KDE has worked hard to rebuild trust after their disastrous 4.0 rollout. Meanwhile in that same period four different groups of developers have decided to go their own way because they felt the GNOME team was impossible to work with.
That would work a lot better with XFCE, Mate or LXQT! (Not that I dislike any of those but unlike KDE they actually look old af)
Ooh now do emacs/vim!
XFCE is better than both.
Good joke
XCFE feels like it came from that XP/Vista period where UIs were moving away from looking like they were drawn in a terminal but hadn't quite reached "fluidity" or whatever other bs marketers call modern UIs... I could understand a tiling dm being called better than both but given XCFE is only better at being lightweight, that's a self-placed restriction because it's very reasonable to say most people can run either KDE or Gnome with virtually undetectable overhead
Xfce is highly customizable (definitely more than gnome) and can look modern with a little theming. Its also much easier to replace components of the de (like the xfce wm or app launcher for example)
I'm sure you could make it look like whatever your head meat blob can come up with, but eventually you're five hours deep in a rabbit hole nobody has ever gone down and uncovering software bugs that god himself didn't know about, just trying to make the damn thing usable.
On GNOME, I don't have to worry about any of that - the OOTB experience is just fine. For anyone.
I meant just changing the icon pack and panel theme which is not that difficult and some people may be fine with the default. Not saying gnome or kde are worse, just that xfce is not as bad as you think it is :)
I don't know, that was my experience on KDE. I got it to behave and look the way I wanted, but it was slow, buggy, and prone to crashing. I've never gone near anything "customizable" since.
Both are good DEs and both look good, it's just a personal preference.
Every one here arguing about kde and gnome - Im just vibin, waiting for Cosmic to hit v1.
Never heard of Cosmic before this, is this a new DE?
Rust-based DE from Pop OS folks thats in a 'public alpha' right now. https://blog.system76.com/
Unicorn is an xfce based thing for Rhino Linux fhat also looks interesting.
It's a fork from gnome by System76 (From Pop!OS)
Not quite. The current PopOs DE is a gnome fork with 'cosmic shell', etc. The Cosmic Desktop Environment that has yet to be released is just a new DE written in Rust that will replace this Gnome variant in future pop versions.
They give regular progress updates here: https://blog.system76.com/
Ah gotcha, it'll still look pretty similar though, right?
Yeah, it looks like they've tried to tone down the annoying 'touch'iness of Gnome and it has built-in support for themes, etc - but the screenshots give a very similar vine to gnome overall.
Used both and really love both.
Gnome reminds me of MacOS(derogatory). I mean at least Gnome lets me change shit if I fidget and fennagle enough, but it is still far too locked down for me. Extensions are a half-measure that also doesn't do enough.
KDE is good but it's a bit pudgy, I'm a XFCE user.
Lol. You did this on purpose didnt you?
Gnome feels stale... i cant describe it better but when using it it feels like im 20 years older.
Kde feels more modern but customizeing it is a pain in the ass for me
Window managers it is!
LMDE is the superior one.
LMDE is an OS, noch a desktop environment
Or he wanted to type LXDE
Did they potentially mean LXDE?
como chiste esta genial
as a joke it's great
the KDE users really are being salty with this one
Bc it makes no sense.
Anything based or forked from GNOME 3 or 2 is considered very solid
GNOME 4(0)+ is a practical joke made by canonical that has the only benefit of leading wayland support, which itself is also a practical joke made to scare the X.Org devs
It's happening, the nostalgic idiots start to embrace Gnome 3 too! Every version people call the older one good but this time most who disliked 3 actually seemed more happy with 4...
I actually really love the workflow of workspaces. Not to mention it keeps the screen really clean with just the thin top bar. Compare that to windows-like desktops where you are cycling through alt-tab a lot of the time.