It' like that with almost anything nowadays too. In the last couple of decades, it's seems like every public corporation has pivoted from decisions primarily based on customer value, to primarily shareholder value.
I hate the way that all the user content has moved from personal sites to social media. I miss all the random fan sites dedicated to Z list celebrities. There’s like 10 companies that just run the internet now.
Also, all the tracking. I just want to browse the internet, I’ll look at your stupid adverts, just stop tracking me.
god i wish all old people were vehemently anti noise, i have autism and noise just kinda makes me unable to function and no one else seems to give a shit about constant incessant noise in all parts of life and it drives me insane.
Mate I'm neurodiverse too, I totally get it. It's not just noise it's picking sounds out from each other, like if there's two conversations near me. It's fucking awful
they recently lowered the speed limit on a major road near me from 70km/h to 60km/h and holy shit it's so much better, suddenly i can actually talk to people and the lowered noise outright makes the world feel different (better).
There’s noise and then there’s noise caused by people. Listening to a distant train or a pack of coyotes howling in the night is fine. Listening to anyone nearby, across the street even, coughing, is soul stabbing and needs to stop.
But how will you stay apprised of the latest trash-pop songs if I don't blast them for you from my shitty Temu Bluetooth speaker on wilderness trails and in urban public places?
It’s not just nightclubs. Restaurants have become super loud too. Last weekend I was at a restaurant with friends and we had to keep asking each other to repeat what we said all the time because damn restaurant was so loud you couldn’t hear the person sitting right next to you.
Normally this restaurant has oldies music from the 20th century but you couldn’t even hear that over all the noise. It was awful!
No they don't, but your mind has been infested. It's been infected to believe that there is no middle ground. That if I'm not with you, I'm against you. That there is no center, because the center means being right-wing. If you see the center as an enemy, you have already given into the USAian mindset.
I invite you to consume less USAian media, go outside, touch grass, talk to people who have differing opinions that you do, try and ask them why and how they came to their conclusions, ask them where they come from. I would even encourage you to join a political party of your choosing and try to see how consensus is formed within it. You might come to realise that world isn't black and white.
The problem is when those people with differing opinions want to see me in an asylum for daring to not fit into their narrow view of gender roles and sexualities.
I don't know in which utopian country you live but in mine the centrist parties adopt more and more policies of a party that would stand close before being banned if they didn't get a fifth of the votes in the last election meaning that the vote to ban them will now get delayed until the fascists are in power.
There are nazis that call themselves left because they have the word "socialist" in their name. Pepe was used by nazis and the news focused on that despite it being used for nothing related to right-wing shit for ages before. I could claim I'm a cat and that the trees are blue. J.K Rowling can claim she's a feminist.
Making arguments as if there is no middle ground, no center, no gray, no middle, is an absolutist, USAian perspective.
Its the opposite for me. Ive held a lot of resentment but have been working through it. I'm seeing more of the good in people, just needed to build stronger boundaries for myself
Money and the wealthy. Everything I was told to look forward to when I got older was smashed and lit on fire in front of my fucking eyes by people who have never wanted for anything. I'm 40, now. I saw the birth of videogames and the Internet, only to watch it get burned down around me so some nepo-baby with a silver spoon can have another zero in their bank account.
We are one of the only generations to have their life be WORSE OFF than their parents, and it hurts the most because those parents likely participated in, or voted for, the very mechanisms that led here. If I'm ever terminally diagnosed with some illness, you'll see me become the Mario to our modern Luigi.
US American culture and politics. I wish people would stop worshipping that country just because it exports popular films and music. They have destroyed and still destroy democracies all over the world, fuel wars, exploit developing countries, still sell the image of them being "a free country" and "the american dream".
I was the guy building linux systems from the trash in 1999. And then complicated distributed systems for fun. Now I want to leave everything at defaults, or just turn on dark mode and be done with it.
Working in tech has ruined tech for me. Hopefully not forever...
Nailed it. I will be turning 50 this year and as a birthday present I am sure I will be presented with the decline of the United States as a world power. Yay for me.
Videogames. Most of them assume an unreasonable amount of time to enjoy a fraction of the content, AND they are expensive as hell... I'm defaulting to stuff that is fun from the start or short indie titles
Same, a lot of new games are just voluntary jobs with no pay. Grinding, item collecting, time killing bait framed as "challenging" or " doesn't hold your hand" .
When you have small children, "short games" are the only games.
I was very hyped for the FFVII rebirth, but it's padded to hell and back. I haven't touched it i 6 months
something i miss with a lot of AAA titles is finishing the game.
its a happy/sad moment when you complete a game - you have that sadness that its all over, but the joy of completion. completing a full story, seeing character growth, and being able to put the game down for good (or at least for a long time).
i dont want to play my games for an infinite amount of time with no end and infinite amounts of DLC..... i want to finish my games. i enjoy the emotions i get from it.
I really like well told stories in games. And a good story needs an ending. I don't just want lore thrown in there and backstory. I want a full features story.
I eat 90%-95% less candy than at my personal peak candy era, and while I do still like it a lot, it's WAY more intense to eat it now, so it feels to me that because I eat less of it, I'm satisfied with a smaller amount of it. Kind of useful to keep that caloric intake nice and low.
I also sometimes bake/roast/grill meats instead of opting for processed snacks and candy, but that still takes more time then just opening the bag (of chips/candy) and shoving it in my facehole.
Carnists mention animal abuse more than vegans mention veganism. The joke you refer to is one of those "jokes" that are not intended for their humour but rather for their social effects. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Don't like it? That's just your guilt.
Maybe not entirely the same thing, but I have less tolerance for bullshit.
To varying degrees of politeness, depending on circumstance, I will not spend a moment listening to your bullshit once I realize you are going to be any kind of pain in my ass. I'm not talking about any specific kind of bullshit. Any interaction I have with someone where they are fake/rude/aggressive or even just seemingly unwilling to proceed smoothly with the the reason for our interaction will involve me leaving the interaction, calling that person out explicitly, or moving the interaction in another direction, whether overtly or not.
I used to just sort of patiently wait for such things to play out most of the time. Ain't nobody got time for that shit.
My father. He's always been a selfish shit of a person but growing up with it and not having a choice I guess I was somewhat conditioned to it. In my 40s now and I realise that I don't owe him anything nor do I have to listen to his bullshit for the rest of my life. Reap what you sow cunt.
This would have to be my answer too. As a kid I always felt guilty when he told me I don't reach out to him enough. As an adult I know now that it shouldn't have been my job to do that. He lives 1000 miles away from me, but one day he just showed up at my job to surprise me and ask i I was free to go out to dinner. I said yes as long as my girlfriend could come and they could meet each other. My girlfriend is of a different race and he immediately backed out and said he had to return home. I saw on Facebook the real reason he was in my area was because he was visiting some of his old friends, i was an afterthought. That was 2 years ago and I haven't spoken with him since.
Ooooh, very interesting! I float from preferred genre to preferred genre all the time, but I can't think of any one genre that really fell out of my grace like how you mention.
I think the phenomenon has potential for a B-moie horror about a spreading affliction. By the end, it's just our protagonist fleeing a society of people with constant, manic smiles.
Sweet foods, my tolerance for sweet things decreases with age. Overall I feel more tolerant, like many more kinds of music, food, drink than I did when younger. But less and less sweet stuff.
Late nights and late meals. In stereotypical old person fashion, I prefer lunch or tea as a big meal and in bed asleep before midnight.
Good shoes - I am kind of sad about this but I just don't feel like putting on "real shoes" it's converse or jogging sneakers all the time.
For the office, no. I had lovely loafers, high heeled pumps, good looking shoes. They didn't even allow sneakers until post-Covid, the dress code relaxed.
This is interesting to me. I had relatives go through college in the late '60s and early '70s. They couldn't understand why I had to work so many hours to afford (and have time) to even attempt part-time college. That was the early '90s. I can not imagine having to deal with this shit now. Add in the future job prospects and the current political environment... Damn.
Edit: For anyone who doesn't feel like following the link, here's a bit from it:
It shows, year-by-year, how many hours it took at minimum wage to earn enough to pay a year's tuition at the University of Minnesota.
Up to 1980, it took well under 400 hours. Since then, as you can see, it has climbed to more than 1,600 hours.
as someone who's 27 and never went to college because it simply didn't seem a smart investment anymore -- get a very expensive (and only getting more expensive) piece of paper that no longer guarantees you a decent job as of like the 2000s, no thanks -- I've largely just accepted I'm going to live and die poor in the new American Reich. Possibly lucky enough to end it myself eventually, possibly via being disappeared for being a dissident, depends on how far this all goes. Either way, the American dream is long dead, and my entire generation and younger is in various degrees of "fucked", from partly to completely to totally and utterly.
This is the best response here, in my opinion. I wish I could show the younger generation how my grandparents lived (for better and for worse. Legal racial segregation was still in place). I feel like people would act differently if they knew what had been taken from them.
People.
Working in a cubicle.
Kids.
Honestly, I'm kinda the opposite these days.
You aren't disliking the internet because you get older. You dislike it because it is taken over by enshittifying corporations.
At least it's like that for me.
It' like that with almost anything nowadays too. In the last couple of decades, it's seems like every public corporation has pivoted from decisions primarily based on customer value, to primarily shareholder value.
I hate the way that all the user content has moved from personal sites to social media. I miss all the random fan sites dedicated to Z list celebrities. There’s like 10 companies that just run the internet now.
Also, all the tracking. I just want to browse the internet, I’ll look at your stupid adverts, just stop tracking me.
Noise. I want to go quiet places and do quiet things. When I was older I loved dancing on tables in nightclubs now I just want silence
I’m exhausted by modern music blasting in retail and restaurants. I’ve started wearing earbuds with white noise everywhere.
I hear you there! Are you neurodiverse? I'm wondering if there's some sensory overload going on
Over-auto-tuned hip-hop and reggaeton in Japanese themed restaurants. Might as well play death metal. Neither fit the vibe at all.
"But I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now" --Bob Dylan
god i wish all old people were vehemently anti noise, i have autism and noise just kinda makes me unable to function and no one else seems to give a shit about constant incessant noise in all parts of life and it drives me insane.
Mate I'm neurodiverse too, I totally get it. It's not just noise it's picking sounds out from each other, like if there's two conversations near me. It's fucking awful
they recently lowered the speed limit on a major road near me from 70km/h to 60km/h and holy shit it's so much better, suddenly i can actually talk to people and the lowered noise outright makes the world feel different (better).
There’s noise and then there’s noise caused by people. Listening to a distant train or a pack of coyotes howling in the night is fine. Listening to anyone nearby, across the street even, coughing, is soul stabbing and needs to stop.
As someone who's been fighting bronchitis for 6 fucking weeks, I completely feel for ya. The noise is driving me insane.
But how will you stay apprised of the latest trash-pop songs if I don't blast them for you from my shitty Temu Bluetooth speaker on wilderness trails and in urban public places?
Pain amplifies this so very much. I'm always sensitive to noise but occasionally I'm sensitive to light.
Oh yes, I was going to say crowd. But I think it is actually noise. Unless it’s birds and bees, rain and wind…
Benjamin Button?
It’s not just nightclubs. Restaurants have become super loud too. Last weekend I was at a restaurant with friends and we had to keep asking each other to repeat what we said all the time because damn restaurant was so loud you couldn’t hear the person sitting right next to you.
Normally this restaurant has oldies music from the 20th century but you couldn’t even hear that over all the noise. It was awful!
Capitalism and people that say they would be in the "political center" or "unpolitical".
Yes, let's always be on the extremes. Yes No, Left Right, Up Down, Good Evil. Having no middle ground is amazing. It's done wonders for the US.
Great USAian take. I guess the cancer of two party system thinking has spread.
ah yes both my username and avatar just scream america
No they don't, but your mind has been infested. It's been infected to believe that there is no middle ground. That if I'm not with you, I'm against you. That there is no center, because the center means being right-wing. If you see the center as an enemy, you have already given into the USAian mindset.
I invite you to consume less USAian media, go outside, touch grass, talk to people who have differing opinions that you do, try and ask them why and how they came to their conclusions, ask them where they come from. I would even encourage you to join a political party of your choosing and try to see how consensus is formed within it. You might come to realise that world isn't black and white.
i'm literally a member of the socialist party in sweden but pop off my man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD7Ol0gz11k
I'm guessing it's not doing you much good if you still think there's only 2 sides.
The problem is when those people with differing opinions want to see me in an asylum for daring to not fit into their narrow view of gender roles and sexualities.
I don't know in which utopian country you live but in mine the centrist parties adopt more and more policies of a party that would stand close before being banned if they didn't get a fifth of the votes in the last election meaning that the vote to ban them will now get delayed until the fascists are in power.
There are nazis that call themselves left because they have the word "socialist" in their name. Pepe was used by nazis and the news focused on that despite it being used for nothing related to right-wing shit for ages before. I could claim I'm a cat and that the trees are blue. J.K Rowling can claim she's a feminist.
Making arguments as if there is no middle ground, no center, no gray, no middle, is an absolutist, USAian perspective.
Ah.
So you're this guy on the reference.
I’m afraid there’s not much grass in Sweden at this time of year my man
In the US progressives are as far left as you get.
Almost anywhere else in the world US progressives would be centrists.
So you're right, the US being so far right wing is really problematic.
Humans in general.
Its the opposite for me. Ive held a lot of resentment but have been working through it. I'm seeing more of the good in people, just needed to build stronger boundaries for myself
I am sincerely jealous.
Drinking alcohol. The 2-3 day hangover just isn't worth it.
Yeah, I gave up on it and do not miss the headaches.
Beer is fine for me, wine and liquor are off the table.
So on the couch? 😄
All morning, nauseous with a migraine.
It will just trigger a migraine if I'm not drinking like a 2:1 ratio of water to liquor
Money and the wealthy. Everything I was told to look forward to when I got older was smashed and lit on fire in front of my fucking eyes by people who have never wanted for anything. I'm 40, now. I saw the birth of videogames and the Internet, only to watch it get burned down around me so some nepo-baby with a silver spoon can have another zero in their bank account.
We are one of the only generations to have their life be WORSE OFF than their parents, and it hurts the most because those parents likely participated in, or voted for, the very mechanisms that led here. If I'm ever terminally diagnosed with some illness, you'll see me become the Mario to our modern Luigi.
Your opsec better be tight after saying something like that nowadays
I can confirm I have zero journalists on my Signal contact list!
US American culture and politics. I wish people would stop worshipping that country just because it exports popular films and music. They have destroyed and still destroy democracies all over the world, fuel wars, exploit developing countries, still sell the image of them being "a free country" and "the american dream".
Tech
I was the guy building linux systems from the trash in 1999. And then complicated distributed systems for fun. Now I want to leave everything at defaults, or just turn on dark mode and be done with it.
Working in tech has ruined tech for me. Hopefully not forever...
The complete disintegration of what I used to stand for.
In what sense?
If they are US, as I am, and over about 30 or so the values we were raised on, ideals if not reality, have disintegrated.
Nailed it. I will be turning 50 this year and as a birthday present I am sure I will be presented with the decline of the United States as a world power. Yay for me.
Videogames. Most of them assume an unreasonable amount of time to enjoy a fraction of the content, AND they are expensive as hell... I'm defaulting to stuff that is fun from the start or short indie titles
Same, a lot of new games are just voluntary jobs with no pay. Grinding, item collecting, time killing bait framed as "challenging" or " doesn't hold your hand" .
Games should be fun.
When you have small children, "short games" are the only games. I was very hyped for the FFVII rebirth, but it's padded to hell and back. I haven't touched it i 6 months
something i miss with a lot of AAA titles is finishing the game.
its a happy/sad moment when you complete a game - you have that sadness that its all over, but the joy of completion. completing a full story, seeing character growth, and being able to put the game down for good (or at least for a long time).
i dont want to play my games for an infinite amount of time with no end and infinite amounts of DLC..... i want to finish my games. i enjoy the emotions i get from it.
I really like well told stories in games. And a good story needs an ending. I don't just want lore thrown in there and backstory. I want a full features story.
candy, though i think it's more that i've gotten better at eating healthy as time goes on.
but man, i just don't really find most candy appealing anymore, why would i eat candy when i could instead eat the same calories worth of schnitzel?
I eat 90%-95% less candy than at my personal peak candy era, and while I do still like it a lot, it's WAY more intense to eat it now, so it feels to me that because I eat less of it, I'm satisfied with a smaller amount of it. Kind of useful to keep that caloric intake nice and low.
I also sometimes bake/roast/grill meats instead of opting for processed snacks and candy, but that still takes more time then just opening the bag (of chips/candy) and shoving it in my facehole.
don't worry they tell you
who'll tell me what?
You know that old joke, "How do you know when someone is cruel to animals?" "Don't worry, they tell you."
what? that doesn't make sense and i don't see how it has anything to do with my comment.
yeah no sorry, even after editing your comment to be almost completely different that still makes no sense
Carnists mention animal abuse more than vegans mention veganism. The joke you refer to is one of those "jokes" that are not intended for their humour but rather for their social effects. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Don't like it? That's just your guilt.
Maybe not entirely the same thing, but I have less tolerance for bullshit.
To varying degrees of politeness, depending on circumstance, I will not spend a moment listening to your bullshit once I realize you are going to be any kind of pain in my ass. I'm not talking about any specific kind of bullshit. Any interaction I have with someone where they are fake/rude/aggressive or even just seemingly unwilling to proceed smoothly with the the reason for our interaction will involve me leaving the interaction, calling that person out explicitly, or moving the interaction in another direction, whether overtly or not.
I used to just sort of patiently wait for such things to play out most of the time. Ain't nobody got time for that shit.
I need more of that in my life.
US politics. It wasn't very great to start, but now...
My father. He's always been a selfish shit of a person but growing up with it and not having a choice I guess I was somewhat conditioned to it. In my 40s now and I realise that I don't owe him anything nor do I have to listen to his bullshit for the rest of my life. Reap what you sow cunt.
This would have to be my answer too. As a kid I always felt guilty when he told me I don't reach out to him enough. As an adult I know now that it shouldn't have been my job to do that. He lives 1000 miles away from me, but one day he just showed up at my job to surprise me and ask i I was free to go out to dinner. I said yes as long as my girlfriend could come and they could meet each other. My girlfriend is of a different race and he immediately backed out and said he had to return home. I saw on Facebook the real reason he was in my area was because he was visiting some of his old friends, i was an afterthought. That was 2 years ago and I haven't spoken with him since.
Aging
Everything.
Me too! I don't know if it's my mind or body that doesn't want it
Ooooh, very interesting! I float from preferred genre to preferred genre all the time, but I can't think of any one genre that really fell out of my grace like how you mention.
It seems so unnecessarily angry now
The state of America 🫣
Late nights. I was always a night owl but after years of a routine I kinda like to go to bed early and get up early even on weekends.
Aging. Hate entropy a lot.
It was fun, until it wasn't
Overly edited videos
Thanks I hate it :3
I think the phenomenon has potential for a B-moie horror about a spreading affliction. By the end, it's just our protagonist fleeing a society of people with constant, manic smiles.
Tried to watch a long video of a game first playthrough. But they had jump cuts and memes constantly. I abandoned watching it...
Same x3.. the only videos I watch now basically just cut out the boring bits, or do an occasional timelapse.. background music sometimes too :3
existing
Sweet foods, my tolerance for sweet things decreases with age. Overall I feel more tolerant, like many more kinds of music, food, drink than I did when younger. But less and less sweet stuff.
Late nights and late meals. In stereotypical old person fashion, I prefer lunch or tea as a big meal and in bed asleep before midnight.
Good shoes - I am kind of sad about this but I just don't feel like putting on "real shoes" it's converse or jogging sneakers all the time.
Are running shoes not "good" shoes?
For the office, no. I had lovely loafers, high heeled pumps, good looking shoes. They didn't even allow sneakers until post-Covid, the dress code relaxed.
Oof, sorry to hear about the restrictive dress code. Glad to hear it's since been relaxed.
Life
People, which is saying a lot confessing considering my misanthropy dates back to before puberty
My hairline.
Meeting people. Reading books. Working. I'm not exactly improving with age...
Prices. I feel like my grandfather (WW2 vet) right now, complaining about prices.
I moved out and paid my own way in the 90s which has irrevocably impacted my opinion on pricing. And subscriptions.
This is interesting to me. I had relatives go through college in the late '60s and early '70s. They couldn't understand why I had to work so many hours to afford (and have time) to even attempt part-time college. That was the early '90s. I can not imagine having to deal with this shit now. Add in the future job prospects and the current political environment... Damn.
Edit: For anyone who doesn't feel like following the link, here's a bit from it:
as someone who's 27 and never went to college because it simply didn't seem a smart investment anymore -- get a very expensive (and only getting more expensive) piece of paper that no longer guarantees you a decent job as of like the 2000s, no thanks -- I've largely just accepted I'm going to live and die poor in the new American Reich. Possibly lucky enough to end it myself eventually, possibly via being disappeared for being a dissident, depends on how far this all goes. Either way, the American dream is long dead, and my entire generation and younger is in various degrees of "fucked", from partly to completely to totally and utterly.
This is the best response here, in my opinion. I wish I could show the younger generation how my grandparents lived (for better and for worse. Legal racial segregation was still in place). I feel like people would act differently if they knew what had been taken from them.
Myself
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Aside from the obvious, sweets.