For all it's flaws, the TPP was about to effectively zone China out of trading advantageously with the whole developed world. Now, US instability and bullying have made Japan and South Korea partner with China.
Trump is handing China the 21st century on a silver platter.
It's also quite ironic that originally China's low wages were seen as the core problem/reason how they could offer products so cheaply.
But the way Trump is destroying things the need for low US wages will come up again...
Alas, of course everything across the board will get more expensive with his tariffs, from vegetables, to electronics, energy and housing, so the common worker will be screwed and locked in his situation, preferably unable to go on strike.
He also listed uninhabited Australian islands and a US military base on an otherwise uninhabited UK island as separate countries. So I would guess China decided that the country list is basically meaningless.
Well it's a single trading block with free internal trade, it would be Impossible have different import tax levels for different countries within the union without them being trivial to circumvent.
if he really wanted to do some damage, he could pick a random port city - Durrës, say - and decide that goods sent from there incur no tariff. then, after the logistics change to ship out of there, invert the tariff structure and send that region into unrest
Other than the crippling economic crisis it's putting us through, I really like that things in the grocery store are better labelled to show they're local or Canadian now. I've always preferred to buy local because it's better for the environment, now it's easier.
My worst case scenario is that HitlerPig keaves NATO, and joins an alliance with Russia, China, North Korea, etc.
As a show of good faith to his new "friends," he will give Alaska back to Russia, and Taiwan back to China. He will claim it's a good deal, because they gave him Canada and Geeenland, even though those countries aren't theirs to give.
He'll act like the lonely rich kid, bribing the cool kids to let him hang with them, but they'll just use him for what they can get from him, and hate him all the same.
That's kinda like if the Confederacy, upon losing the Civil War, fled and occupied Cuba, and was propped up millitarily by, say, the UK as a millitary foothold to keep the US in check back when the UK still had Imperialist chops, then saying the Confederate-occupied Cuba is the real US.
The fact is, the Communists and Nationalists had a 2 decade long civil war, and the Communists won against the Nationalists, who then fled to Taiwan, where the Nationalists have maintained that they are the legitimate government of China.
As with any revolution, such as the French, American, Vietnamese, Russian, Cuban, etc, I don't think it makes much sense to declare the French Monarchy, British Empire, French Colonialists, Russian Tsarists, or fascist Batista regime the "rightful" rulers of the countries the people themselves overthrew, and that extends to China.
As for Taiwanese people, the overwhelming majority support maintaining the status quo, with few wanting hard independence or reconcilliation. This may change now that the US is pivoting away from them as well, but both the PRC and ROC seem to be content to maintain the uneasy status quo for the time being. War would be devastating for Taiwan in particular.
It's a direct comparison to what calling the PRC "West Taiwan" means. It means you uphold the Nationalist Kuomintang as the wrongfully overthrown dictatorship that should have never lost the Chinese Civil War.
That's kinda like if the Confederacy, upon losing the Civil War, fled and occupied Cuba, and was propped up millitarily by, say, the UK as a millitary foothold to keep the US in check back when the UK still had Imperialist chops, then saying the Confederate-occupied Cuba is the real US.
The fact is, the Communists and Nationalists had a 2 decade long civil war, and the Communists won against the Nationalists, who then fled to Taiwan, where the Nationalists have maintained that they are the legitimate government of China.
As with any revolution, such as the French, American, Vietnamese, Russian, Cuban, etc, I don't think it makes much sense to declare the French Monarchy, British Empire, French Colonialists, Russian Tsarists, or fascist Batista regime the "rightful" rulers of the countries the people themselves overthrew, and that extends to China.
As for Taiwanese people, the overwhelming majority support maintaining the status quo, with few wanting hard independence or reconcilliation. This may change now that the US is pivoting away from them as well, but both the PRC and ROC seem to be content to maintain the uneasy status quo for the time being. War would be devastating for Taiwan in particular.
It is sad. Everyone is gloating, cheering on a possible conflict in the future. We've seen this kind of escalation and warmongering in 2013 in Ukraine. "Of course that country on the doorstep of our big geopolitical rival should be independent and join our military pact! Hahaha lololol!"
You just throw that word around for anybody you fucking creep, fuck off and avoid labeling me in the future. I did misread their comment, I absolutely agree. Taiwan is best China, before you snap somebody’s face off consider that they may be miscommunicating, butthat’s all done. You showed your ass, so fuck off again.
Trump hasn't lifted any sanctions on Russia yet. He prolonged them for a year in February, and has been trying to offer the perspective of lifting them in exchange for peace negotiations. But since Putin hasn't started negotiating in earnest yet, no sanctions have been lifted as far as I know.
It varies by instance, some are more Marxist, some are more Anarchist, some are more liberal, some are blends of 2 of those. However, the 2 biggest factors are that the Developers are Marxists and thus Marxists have been building communities here from the beginning, and the rejection of Reddit, a highly corporatized social media platform, in order to jump to a smaller FOSS platform, fits neatly with general anticapitalism.
The best part about it is that almost no US tech would work without Taiwan's chips
Oh and that China somehow did not get angry at that publicly as of yet, very weird
At this point in time, China is just sitting back and laughing as Trump weaken the US.
Remember, don't correct an enemy as they are making a mistake.
For all it's flaws, the TPP was about to effectively zone China out of trading advantageously with the whole developed world. Now, US instability and bullying have made Japan and South Korea partner with China.
Trump is handing China the 21st century on a silver platter.
Imagine being such a clown that Japan, China and SKorea unite against you lmao
Did Japan and SK actually announce collaboration with China, or was it only China that said that they are working together?
They held a rare trade talk, but the announcement came from Chinese state media.
https://www.dw.com/en/china-japan-and-south-korea-to-strengthen-free-trade/a-72085756
Critical support to Trump in his struggle against US hegemony.
The TPP still exists. The USA backed out of it, but the USA doesn't matter anymore.
And the US was the problem with it to begin with
It's also quite ironic that originally China's low wages were seen as the core problem/reason how they could offer products so cheaply.
But the way Trump is destroying things the need for low US wages will come up again...
Alas, of course everything across the board will get more expensive with his tariffs, from vegetables, to electronics, energy and housing, so the common worker will be screwed and locked in his situation, preferably unable to go on strike.
They're patiently waiting for the value of American businesses crash hard to buy it for cheap
I'm sure they rationally assume Trump is totally unfamiliar with that policy.
I feel like Russia is laughing, and China and America are both the crying wojak with the smirk mask.
He also listed uninhabited Australian islands and a US military base on an otherwise uninhabited UK island as separate countries. So I would guess China decided that the country list is basically meaningless.
That's because the DOGE morons used TLD codes to make the list.
TLD?
Top Level Domain codes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Internet_top-level_domains
Thanks
China is just going triple the price of everything and blame the tariffs for it.
The EU. Everyone's favourite country.
Well it's a single trading block with free internal trade, it would be Impossible have different import tax levels for different countries within the union without them being trivial to circumvent.
if he really wanted to do some damage, he could pick a random port city - Durrës, say - and decide that goods sent from there incur no tariff. then, after the logistics change to ship out of there, invert the tariff structure and send that region into unrest
Diabolical.
EUSSR, the country of healthcare and public transport.
Jealous :P
It could help with global warming by decreasing consumption.
looking for a silver lining.... good on you friend. thank you for the perspective shift
lol. That's what the new coal mines are for, silly! The children yearn for the mines... https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/08/climate/trump-order-coal-mining.html
sorry, my family only uses all natural bone coal
Other than the crippling economic crisis it's putting us through, I really like that things in the grocery store are better labelled to show they're local or Canadian now. I've always preferred to buy local because it's better for the environment, now it's easier.
Good question. How is he going to sell oil, which are his main sponsors?
Art of the Green Deal
I said that in a thread the first day felon 47 showed us that .
I said this "New headline. Trump tariffs confirm Taiwan sovereignty."
He had some things like that his first term too. I'm pretty sure he does just to piss China off. He's not really interested in helping Taiwan.
Oh I know. I'm pretty sure though he doesn't understand why it pisses china off.
Taiwan could invade PRC and he'd only have a minimal idea of what's going on.
I don't think so, I think he'd be on the side of whoever is fighting China. He's got it in for them, and has for a very long time.
My worst case scenario is that HitlerPig keaves NATO, and joins an alliance with Russia, China, North Korea, etc.
As a show of good faith to his new "friends," he will give Alaska back to Russia, and Taiwan back to China. He will claim it's a good deal, because they gave him Canada and Geeenland, even though those countries aren't theirs to give.
He'll act like the lonely rich kid, bribing the cool kids to let him hang with them, but they'll just use him for what they can get from him, and hate him all the same.
Yep, because Taiwan is a country, and the real China.
China is West Taiwan
The USA is west Cuba
USA is East Alaska.
Occupied mainland Taiwan
That's kinda like if the Confederacy, upon losing the Civil War, fled and occupied Cuba, and was propped up millitarily by, say, the UK as a millitary foothold to keep the US in check back when the UK still had Imperialist chops, then saying the Confederate-occupied Cuba is the real US.
The fact is, the Communists and Nationalists had a 2 decade long civil war, and the Communists won against the Nationalists, who then fled to Taiwan, where the Nationalists have maintained that they are the legitimate government of China.
As with any revolution, such as the French, American, Vietnamese, Russian, Cuban, etc, I don't think it makes much sense to declare the French Monarchy, British Empire, French Colonialists, Russian Tsarists, or fascist Batista regime the "rightful" rulers of the countries the people themselves overthrew, and that extends to China.
As for Taiwanese people, the overwhelming majority support maintaining the status quo, with few wanting hard independence or reconcilliation. This may change now that the US is pivoting away from them as well, but both the PRC and ROC seem to be content to maintain the uneasy status quo for the time being. War would be devastating for Taiwan in particular.
4 paragraphs of response... Is this a bot response? Or did you just take my comment way too serious?
It's a direct comparison to what calling the PRC "West Taiwan" means. It means you uphold the Nationalist Kuomintang as the wrongfully overthrown dictatorship that should have never lost the Chinese Civil War.
That's kinda like if the Confederacy, upon losing the Civil War, fled and occupied Cuba, and was propped up millitarily by, say, the UK as a millitary foothold to keep the US in check back when the UK still had Imperialist chops, then saying the Confederate-occupied Cuba is the real US.
The fact is, the Communists and Nationalists had a 2 decade long civil war, and the Communists won against the Nationalists, who then fled to Taiwan, where the Nationalists have maintained that they are the legitimate government of China.
As with any revolution, such as the French, American, Vietnamese, Russian, Cuban, etc, I don't think it makes much sense to declare the French Monarchy, British Empire, French Colonialists, Russian Tsarists, or fascist Batista regime the "rightful" rulers of the countries the people themselves overthrew, and that extends to China.
As for Taiwanese people, the overwhelming majority support maintaining the status quo, with few wanting hard independence or reconcilliation. This may change now that the US is pivoting away from them as well, but both the PRC and ROC seem to be content to maintain the uneasy status quo for the time being. War would be devastating for Taiwan in particular.
Holy copy-pasta, batman!
Can I get a delicious cookie recipe as well?
No?
I thought Taiwan was an independent country?
Don't pull a muscle, prc boi
So it's not an independent country?
Try harder
Struggling to answer?
You need to try harder to make me answer you. This is very low-effort trolling. Show me some actual trolling, tankie, cmon.
So they aren't an independent country?
inb4 this comment gets downvoted by tankies
It is sad. Everyone is gloating, cheering on a possible conflict in the future. We've seen this kind of escalation and warmongering in 2013 in Ukraine. "Of course that country on the doorstep of our big geopolitical rival should be independent and join our military pact! Hahaha lololol!"
average .ml user (aka tankie)
You just throw that word around for anybody you fucking creep, fuck off and avoid labeling me in the future. I did misread their comment, I absolutely agree. Taiwan is best China, before you snap somebody’s face off consider that they may be miscommunicating, butthat’s all done. You showed your ass, so fuck off again.
srry, I thought you were sucking off the ccp
Putting tariffs on Taiwan is the first step to making them reconcile with China.
Cambodia at 97% highlights how fucking moronic this all is. Let me reindustrialize the economy by cutting off our raw inputs.
A reconciliation goes both ways; that is, both parties are happy.
If that's the case, then my post still stands.
yeah, sure. reminds me of this nonsense
Girl looks like she will murder the boy, and the boy knows it.
she's what, two years older than him? that kind of age/mass difference makes all the difference without training. if they ever fight, he always loses.
I wasn't trying to debate your point.
Why would Taiwan reconcile with China, dude?
Better trade relations if we keep imposing tariffs on them, obv.
Or were you asking why the Peoples Republic of China and the Republic of China would ever have anything to reconcile over?
The REAL reason China slapped the US with those reciprocal tariffs.
xi is gonna be pissed both that they recognize taiwan and that they charge them less
Well that's because they're different regi--.. oh it says Countries
Yes, countries like the EU, which is also on the list.
Bro looks like a corpse
lemmy dot ml is now confused.
I don't think tankies are keen on recognising Taiwan. They think it should still be part of China.
Exactly, that’s what they are saying
And one more to the Mueller stack
Russia received no additional tariffs
Russia is already on its own "special list" of countries that have very heavy trade restrictions. Like North Korea.
I don't think tariffs would've made a difference there.
Trump imposed tariffs on uninhabited islands near Antarctica, but not Russia.
Yeah but that's out of incompetence, not malice. You're in most cases not allowed to trade with Russia due to sanctions, so what is there to tariff?
41% increase on tariffs to Syria which is currently also comprehensively sanctioned
The recent collapse of the Assad regime might have changed the calculus there, not sure.
They're on a different list that allows limited trade afaik.
So is Russia now that Trump continues lifting sanctions and gutting sanctions enforcement against Russia
Trump hasn't lifted any sanctions on Russia yet. He prolonged them for a year in February, and has been trying to offer the perspective of lifting them in exchange for peace negotiations. But since Putin hasn't started negotiating in earnest yet, no sanctions have been lifted as far as I know.
Wtf is the Mueller stack?
Im suprised taiwan is so high
His "math" for calculating each is surprisingly simple and not based on anything "reciprocal" https://youtu.be/j04IAbWCszg
offtopic: why do i feel like palantir has a lot to do with this current administration's policies
I’m sure they have their own perverse AI calling all the shots
Wow, Trump really is undermining US foreign policy. Damn, Trump really wants to go out of the way to finally destroy Nixon's legacy.
It comes from chy-nah
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It varies by instance, some are more Marxist, some are more Anarchist, some are more liberal, some are blends of 2 of those. However, the 2 biggest factors are that the Developers are Marxists and thus Marxists have been building communities here from the beginning, and the rejection of Reddit, a highly corporatized social media platform, in order to jump to a smaller FOSS platform, fits neatly with general anticapitalism.
Very thoughtful and nice comment. Thank you!
No problem!
No problem! 🫡