Spyke

Every single person sent to El Salvador were innocent. Not a single one of them had their due process! This is all bullshit. ICE must be destroyed

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CitricBasereply
lemmy.world

Yep. Innocent until proven guilty, and not a single one of them was so much as indicted, much less charged or convicted. Blatant disregard for the constitution as well as human rights, everyone all the way up the chain of command needs to be prosecuted for this.

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lemmynsfw.com

the fact that the democrats aren't filing articles of impeachment every single day tells you where they're at

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catloafreply
lemm.ee

You'd need four twenty Republican senators to convict. I can't imagine that happening.

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lemmy.world

It'd still be something. Bemoaning "oh there's no point because it's hopeless" gives these fuckers more fuel because the opposition is just etting it happen without any complaints.

It'd be like a cop kneeling on your neck and not bothering to scream "help I can't breathe! they're killing me!" because you've just accepted that they're going to suffocate you to death.

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catloafreply
lemm.ee

It would be something. Would it be the most effective use of their time? Unlikely.

"Something must be done, this is something, therefore this must be done" is a joke, not something to take seriously.

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lemmy.world

Feel free to offer your own brilliant alternatives that would be a more effective use of their time. You must have at least one since you're so confident that this isn't it.

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If I did, they would likely be removed by a mod or admin.

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lemmynsfw.com

don't need to convict to gum up the works of government while the fascists try to do their genocide

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13igTymereply
lemmy.world

I don't even think we can gum up the works if we tried. If we try they will just do things without a law saying they can or can't. It's not like they are facing any consequences.

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4amreply
lemm.ee

You’re right we should just go down with decorum instead of with a fight, it’s the right thing to do 🙄

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It's just that fighting lawfully is not enough. There are other ways to fight this, but filing for impeachment won't do it.

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I don't know how you got that from my comment, but whatever. Morons gonna moron.

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5tooreply
lemmy.world

None of that means we shouldn't still try. It does matter.

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I don't know where you people are getting the idea I said we shouldn't still try. My comment was in regard to "gumming up the works" which for this administration doesn't matter because they are doing everything outside the law.

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The works are sufficiently gummed already. Any path forward seems to involve action only implied in the constitution. Maybe a rereading of the Declaration of Independence is in order as well.

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Before that, though, we need SOMEONE to actually propose the articles...

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Impeachment comes from the house. But yes it's actually 20 Republican senators to convict since it's two-thirds, not a simple majority (assuming all 45 Democrats and two independents vote to convict).

20 is definitely not happening. Even in the last two trials, they only got one vote in one trial.

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lemm.ee

So were the 50+ votes to repeal the ACA when the Republicans had a minority control but they still did it to send a message.

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Thats the thing. Rounding up people from the street will not catch any criminals (legally speaking), by definition: if they committed a crime, and a judge deemed them guilty, they would be in jail or they would be fugitives. In either case, they are not unknowns, and authorities must've already knew about them. Getting people randomly off the street, you cannot, legally speaking, be catching criminals.

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kbin.earth

The US has a greater obsession with tattoos than Japan by this point. If you go to a place in Japan and show off a tattoo, the owner might ask you to leave. The US they'll gulag your ass.

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lemmy.world

Only of you're brown, white people with tattoos are perfectly acceptable, just look at all the neonazis

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Now that's a fucking gang tattoo if I've ever seen one. Not like the literal Awareness Ribbon. 🎗️

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That’s only one view, he just posted photos on X with even more white supremacist tattoos.

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And the tramp stamps on their bleach blonde bimbos.

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FuglyDuckreply
lemmy.world

Not only that, but they circulate bad information among themselves. Booklets about how every sports team has it’s own gang affiliation, etc.

We all know it's the bowling teams that are the gangbangers. I mean look at them. total miscreants!

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lemmy.world

What Nazi Germany classed as "untermenschen:"

  • People of Jewish descent
  • People of Slavic descent
  • People of African descent
  • People of Romani descent
  • Homosexuals
  • The mentally disabled
  • The physically disabled
  • Political dissidents
  • POWs

Qualifying people were dehumanized, arrested and initially deported, but eventually taken to camps and either systematically exterminated or put into slavery.

It's not enough to say that there are parallels, America is playing exactly by the Nazi guide book.

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Also worth noting they basically learned all that from Andrew Jackson the first time around

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Phoenixzreply
lemmy.ca

That is not how NATO works or what it is

Not saying we shouldn't try to free political undesirable prisoners, just saying that that is not what NATO is for, won't happen

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Most countries would be able to take El Salvador on in a head-on-head fight.

Now, which ones can do so, if the US is backing the dictatorship there? That's a big question.

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The courts might be able to stop future renditions, but the president or Congress have the power to end this or return them. Congress could cut off the funding (bribes) to El Salvador or president could force them to release people.

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reddthat.com

America has its Gestapo now. How much longer until they create SS that swears fealty not to the US but to Trump?

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lemmy.world

They've already sworn fealty to Trump. Non-fascists don't join ICE.

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That was 10 years ago. DHS is the Gestapo you're seeing now, courtesy of the Patriot Act. They've already sworn fealty to Trump. People are looking at January 6th as an isolated event, but it proved how far the right-wing could get if they wanted to forcefully take over the government.

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